Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Yeah well....it didn't work....

If Putin tries that too it probably won't work either?


What means "sort of"?

Are they russian or are they not?

What are you involving the police for? You willingly signed the deed to your house over to that guy and he wants you out in half an hour. Get moving!

@Bratwurst Boy

Yes, a specific sort of very confused Russians. Polish Szlachta played a big role in developing this confusion in their brains.

That's your (and Putin's) opinion. But it's not shared with people who call themselves "Ukrainian".

@mafketis
I finally have something I can agree with you on.

You liar! You checked in again in two hours! :):) Why are all Russ-Asian savages such compulsive liars???


Oh, come on. Just ignore all morons who attack you and do your job. It is the best policy. :):)


Kania can get emotional but certainly acts according to his best intentions.

I could not resist. It seemed Kania was close to a breakthrough!

BTW, is Kania after all a man? I first thought so, based on the personage from comedy film, but then Paulina in a different post wrote "she".

If this is true and common enough knowledge in Russia, then, Maf, is right: Putin's aim is to liquidate Ukraine, at least its men of fighting age. Putin would've known that the Ukes would fight and wouldn't surrender, therefore the Russian invasion was, in part, an explicit attempt to rid the Ukrainian land of Ukrainians (or, at least, the population with virility).

That'd be the logic, yes?

RuSS-Asian savages have halted their offensive against Ukrainian army and are focused on carpet shelling civilian quarters. Very brave of them.

Meanwhile the Ukrainian army and national defence units are counterattacking locally and weakening the savages every day. Also, capturing a lot of abandoned equipment, including tanks. RuSS-Asian savages leave their vehicles and run away or become POWs to save their lives.

The tape-worm-long convoy which has been threatening Kiev for a week or so is gradually peeling away under heroic defenders` pressure, tank by tank, truck by truck, carrier by carrier.

Things don`t look bright for the RuSS-Asian savages, that is why they are bringing in more troops from Siberia. Will they turn the tide? I highly doubt it.

A 6-year-old girl died from dehydration in Mariupol - first such case since WWII:

o2.pl/informacje/straszna-smierc-6-latki-pierwszy-taki-przypadek-od-ii-wojny-swiatowej-6745153159449152a

I bet she was a "Nazi" that had to be "de-Nazified"...

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Yes, he is.


No, I didn't.

@Paulina

Apologies! Almost certain I saw it from someone.

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/eu-staaten-erwaegen-buendnisfall-warnung-an-russland-a-9ff5d1de-9091-46c3-80fd-8a2ce3dcabe4

At its summit meeting, the EU wants to decide on a significant strengthening of its military capabilities. According to SPIEGEL information, the draft of the final declaration even mentions the EU assistance clause.

I'm surprised!

I didn't think the EU had it in them....

Even the location of the conference has symbolic power: the heads of state and government of the EU will meet at the Palace of Versailles on Thursday and Friday. According to a draft for the summit communiqué, which is available to SPIEGEL, not only the end of dependence on Russian gas, coal and oil supplies should be decided there. ...

he latest draft of the declaration also contains - unlike an earlier version - a reference to the EU's duty to provide assistance in the event of an attack on one of its members. Should the passage also appear in the final version of the summit declaration, diplomats believe it would be a clear warning from the EU to Russian President Vladimir Putin .

The draft states that they will "continue to invest in our mutual aid under Article 42, paragraph 7". The article of the EU Treaty of Lisbon is similar to the better-known article 5 of the NATO treaty, which stipulates that an attack on one member is treated as an attack on all.

....we still haven't that EU army though....

Right now cutting the energy dependence is a much more powerful "weapon" for the EU!

...On Tuesday, she presented plans for greater EU energy self-sufficiency - and fast. By the end of this year, the EU's demand for Russian gas could be reduced by two-thirds, it said. According to the agency's plans, the EU should no longer have to import gas from Russia "well before 2030" - by expanding renewable energies more quickly and sourcing more gas from the USA and Qatar....

Two-thirds less profit for Moscow....could be interesting!

I was just going to declare a mass boycott (thank you, Atch) of Coca Cola Co when I read they eventually decided to suspend their business in Russia. That was the last minute decision.

Good. In our global village news travels fast and customers take action quickly, too.

Consider these memes no longer valid.

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Damn PolAm.......so un-American and Europe is just as bad.
This is 2022 man !

Very bad coz they will have to devour all their pets first and then all their bears. What will the new symbol of RuSSia be???

....I will need to go hunting to feed myself if the prices keep rising....I truly hope the EU will put a cap on it somehow!

Given that Russia has nowhere safe to put its FX at the moment (other than their yuan based holdings), I wonder how long Russia will continue exporting at all. There is no point in maintaining that positive current account balance.

If I was Putin, I would stop waiting for the West to sanction oil, and just start curtailing production immediately. Keep it at a level sufficient to cover domestic needs and that of dependent economies in CIS, as well as allies such as China and India.

There's simply no point in generating infinite oil dollars if there is nothing to buy with them, and nowhere to keep them. Turn off the faucet and watch Europe eat itself within 6 months.

At the same time, I would place export controls on palladium, nickel, platinum to make it much more expensive, or perhaps impossible, for the West to manage a quick transition to electric transport.

Finally, place export controls on rare earth metals. This will do wonders with their high tech supply chain.

The european Greens will be grateful! They are dreaming to go all renewable for years....thanks Putin the conversion will happen alot earlier....and be alot more brutal!

But in the end there will be one big loser....as long Russia doesn't find something else to sell and export it will get alot harder to get to hard money. There is no turning back to fossils even when this war is over and the relationships being rebuild.....once converted to renewable always renewable!

....just alot sooner.

...but they will still tell you that no sacrifice is too painful to protect Z swamp. You know, it's the principle...

You are joking but that's exactly the situation! Every survey shows the same outcome, a clear majority is ready to "suffer" for Ukraine, to end that dependence on russian energy. People who had balked at sacrificing even the slightest comfort to go green, for the conversion to renewables, only two weeks back, are now ready and willing to pay the price...

A better situation, more broad support the Greens never had....thank you Mr. Putin!

Yes, except when it suddenly stops. Like when the wind stopped over Northern Europe last year.

Maybe you have heard about some hydro reservoirs that are dropping below the level needed for the turbines to generate power?

Perhaps you will build transcontinental cables from Morocco and Tunis so that cloud cover over Europe would not make volatile your solar supply?

Of course, there is always the answer of nuclear. Here I have some good news - Kazakhstan, Russia, and Uzbekistan produce a little bit over 50% of global supply.

I never said it won't get funny or painful....such a sudden radical and huge conversion is bound to be tough and difficult....I'm not happy about it....without Putin's war in Ukraine we would go alot slower about it!

...without saying what the upper limit is.
Do you know that absolutely everything has a limit? Including how many Ukrainian refugees Poland can handle. I wonder how they are going to stop the N+1.

If N=40,000,000 then my point is moot.

Of course.....I doubt anybody has a plan about it right now...


They can come to Germany....I prefer them to those muslims aus Arabistan....yes, I'm biased like that!

Bratwurst - the answer is right under your nose. If you want to give a big middle finger to Putin expand mining at Hambach and Tagebau Garzweiler.

Well....that wouldn't be the first taboo to fall since the war started....all cards are being newly shuffled right now....everything is possible....so, why not if necessary!

'night all

I wonder how many Arabistanistas are taking a quick course in Ukrainian now...


To make posting easier we need another abbreviation like GFY. It's WIT - useful when asked how much we should spend. WIT.

That might be a smart move, but it will sting Russia.

I believe I saw something a few years ago about China entering into an oil deal with Russia. If I did, the deal was favorable to China, so it may not give Russia the economic boost it'd need--but, I may be wrong about that. I

did a quick look at oil imports to India, doesn't appear Russia supplies much, if any, oil to India. That'd be a helluva market to tap, but India might not be that willing right now. India is walking a tightrope, it needs Russia for defense products, but needs the US for protection against China. IMO, India is going to be heavily courted in the coming decade. If America is willing to **** off Pakistan, it might decide to start supplying India with defense stuff if it walks away from Russia.


That would be another thing that'd hurt the West, but, then, again, the West might be willing to take the hit and stop--or diminish--its purchases. It'd hit Russia hard, also; at some point, the lack of Russian economic diversity comes into play, I'd think.

Plus, how does this effect Putin domestically? At what point do the oligarchs start getting squeamish and pull resources to lobby for change? Or, do they? Billionaires do not like to be relegated to Millionaires, typically.

You have yet to get acquainted with the essence of the grandchildren of those who slaughtered the Polish villages in Galicia, and then their fellow tribesmen who did not support them too zealously. And then he walked around as if nothing had happened, and portrayed a civilian. Until the next trip to another massacre.

You will dream about the Arabs - at least they can be distinguished immediately.

I'll give you your props, Bobko.

If Euro countries stopped centrally controling mineral rights and handed them over as private property rights, the taboos beebs speaks of, will begin to fall like a heavy rain and Europe will find oil and gas wells popping up like mad as private property owners look to capitalize on that liquid gold.