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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 9



Korvinus
19 Mar 2024  #3151

Spot on.

Creepy. Seeing Joun agreeing with me I have distinct feeling I have done something wrong.

pawian
19 Mar 2024  #3152

Again I ask, if not the US who TF is going to supply Ukraine?

Asking this rhetorical question, do you expect it will be the ultimate reminder for decent posters to kneel down before the US, stop critisizing it and admit at last it is a wonderful country???? hahahaha

Seeing Joun agreeing with me I have distinct feeling I have done something wrong.

It is correct provided that when not seeing jon agree with you, you have a vague feeling you have done sth wrong. :):):)

Miloslaw
19 Mar 2024  #3153

As long as they love Russia and Russians.

That is the problem, most people don't have a problem with most Russians, it is Russia that is the problem.

Hey, Russia-hating morons, how is Putin a "dictator" and Biden is not?

Simple.Because Biden was elected in a democracy and Putin wasn't......BTW, I hate Biden almost as much as Putin.

Coz a large part of the votes cast for him were rigged, e,.g., dead people were allowed to vote. hahahaha
Coz critisizing the war costs common Russian long prison sentences.
Coz all independent thought has been supressed
etc etc

Good point!

Novichok
19 Mar 2024  #3154

Simple.Because Biden was elected in a democracy and Putin wasn't..

Democracy has nothing to do with how the top dog is elected.

Democracy is about who controls whom. When the citizens control the government, it's democracy. When it's in reverse, it's a dictatorship. The only difference between Russia and Western democracies is in harshness when you break the laws.

BTW, stupid people confuse harshness with "democracy". Any democracy can modify its constitution and the penal code to make jaywalking punishable by death. Stupid and cruel but still "democratic". Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner is "democracy".

Bottom line: Other than harshness, the UK and the US have no reason to claim that they are more democratic than Russia since in all three countries government dictates and people obey. Period. As a reminder, there are elections in all three and people are free to leave and come back.

Again, how Biden was elected means squat. What he is free to do without asking voters and Congress means everything. In this sense, he is as much of a dictator as Putin. See the border.

Novichok
20 Mar 2024  #3155

That's why there is a war between NATO proxies and Russia:

Under Poroshenko, Kiev signed up for a reconciliation roadmap, the Minsk Agreements, which were ostensibly intended to pave the way for the reintegration of Donbass and Lugansk into Ukraine.

Both Poroshenko and his successor, Vladimir Zelensky, refused to implement the agreements. Poroshenko has since admitted that he used the accords to win time for Kiev to build up its military with the help of NATO.


Duh!

Bratwurst Boy
20 Mar 2024  #3156

Hmmmm......Trump already going soft?

Donald Trump puts his statements about NATO into perspective

spiegel.de/ausland/nato-donald-trump-relativiert-seine-umstrittenen-aeusserungen-a-3eb43c1b-2d72-44db-af9f-e053bc3f5550

Donald Trump's statements about NATO also alarmed politicians in Germany: The former US president said at a campaign event in the state of South Carolina in February that he would not come to the aid of NATO partners in an attack if they did not do enough to defend themselves expenses. He would then even encourage Russia to do "whatever they want" with them.

Now Trump has qualified these statements. Asked about his comments in an interview broadcast on Tuesday with the right-wing British broadcaster GB News, he said: "What I'm saying is a way of negotiating. Why should we protect these countries that have a lot of money while the US pays most of it for NATO?"

When asked by moderator and Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage whether America would remain in NATO if he won the election if the other member states "played fairly," Trump replied: "Yes. 100 percent."


.....he should keep negotiating!

cms neuf
20 Mar 2024  #3157

I wondered why Putler went through the farce of the "election" which obviously cost a lot of time and money and sent millions of his apparatchiks on a wild goose chase to deliver "results" that would keep themselves in a job.

And now I know why - because it provides a talking point for Udmurtian paid trolls to launch dumb rhetorical essays about the nature of democracy.

The thesis - that any country that had a functioning government and a police force is no better than turd world Udmurtia. Also that even if the elections are bent Putler has popular support (from cowards and losers)

mafketis
20 Mar 2024  #3158

why Putler went through the farce of the "election"

Galeev's take is probably the best (as if often the case).

russia has never ever had an election that resulted in a transfer of power. Ever. The closest it had was 1996 but then that was fixed to prevent a commie from coming to power. And that was the end of that.

Modern russia is basically a non-hereditary monarchy* and 'elections' aren't elections but acclamations of the tsar. It's something like the russian version of Trooping the Colour in the UK or special anniversaries of the monarchy. It's a time for the public to express their adoration of and support for the Tsar and has nothing to do with choosing a leader for the country.

*which means their's no real heir and the death of the tsar is an occasion for pretendants to duke it out for access to the throne, or a palace coup can take place (like Kruschev to Brezhnev or Jelcyn to putain).

Crnogorac3
20 Mar 2024  #3159

πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ The former chief of the Polish general staff said that Ukraine's losses are estimated at "millions, not hundreds of thousands."

"More than 10 million people are missing. According to my estimates, losses should be in the millions, not hundreds of thousands. The country has no resources, no one to fight. Ukrainians are losing this war," said Raimund Andrzejczak in an interview with Polsat News.

He mentioned shortcomings in the recruitment of troops, problems associated with the mobilization and supply of equipment. The general believes that the change of commander in chief could not change the strategic situation.

"There are no miracles in war. General Syrsky has the same dilemmas as General Zaluzhny. It turned out that he had to withdraw his troops and put the front line in order. All the problems that Zaluzny had remained," says Andrzejczak.

He calls on Poland to prepare for war with the Russian Federation "in two, three or five years."


Novichok
20 Mar 2024  #3160

and sent millions of his apparatchiks on a wild goose chase to deliver "results"

I have seen all kinds of idiots. You are King.
Sure, genius, a guy that gets 87% needs millions of "apparatchiks" to chase votes.

russia has never ever had an election that resulted in a transfer of power. Ever.

Just like in the US. If you think that RINOs are an "opposition" party, I have a toll bridge for sale.

cms neuf
20 Mar 2024  #3161

The king idiots are the ones who gave up their Sunday to queue up and vote in this fake ass election - when they good have been partaking in their favorite Udmurtian leisure activities, getting blind drunk, making amateur **** or playing chess in their swimming trunks

Bobko
20 Mar 2024  #3162

The closest it had was 1996 but then that was fixed to prevent a commie from coming to power

Ha! This is actually true, for once.

To prevent his inevitable defeat, Yeltsin made a deal with the devil, or the so called "Semibankirschina" (meaning seven bankers). This is a kind of joke in reference to the Seven Boyars which sold the Russian throne to Sigismund III.

Khodorkovsky, Abramovich, Berezovsky, Deripaska, Gusinsky and a few others threw the combined power of their media conglomerates and enormous enterprises to drown out the Communist message and essentially buy the election for Yeltsin.

In exchange, Russia became beholden to this small group of men. As reward for their loyalty, they were allowed to plunder Russia mercilessly.

I think feeling a tremendous guilt over his work, Yeltsin decided to organize that wicked switcheroo where he brought in a completely anonymous KGB colonel to rid the country of these bandits.

The only promise he extracted from Putin, was that his family not be touched. Putin has kept this promise for 23 years now. Tatyana Yumasheva, and her oligarch husband, are still very much untouchable.

cms neuf
20 Mar 2024  #3163

And while Udmurtia was having these medieval intrigues Poland, Czech, the Baltics and even Romania decided to get richer and nicer by a revolutionary method

Free society
Free market with transparent rules
Rule of law
Participatory democracy
Separation of powers
Friendly relations with our neighbors

Thanks to our American and EU brothers for standing by us - now time to do the same for Ukraine !

Bobko
20 Mar 2024  #3164

while Udmurtia was having these medieval intrigues

We suffered for it, because we took on the burden of actually being able to affect life.

Your little bourgeois existence of course works under only current parameters.

mafketis
20 Mar 2024  #3165

We suffered for it, because

You suffered for it because russians are too weak and pathetic to demand more of their government. russians accept any humiliation if they think their country can make others suffer more. Very sick.

Novichok
21 Mar 2024  #3166

russians are too weak and pathetic to demand more of their government

Americans are too weak and pathetic to demand more of their government. Like getting out of NATO and Europe and closing the border.

Velund
21 Mar 2024  #3167

Like getting out of NATO

Start from repairing rusty bridge in Alabama... ;)

Alien
21 Mar 2024  #3168

repairing rusty bridge in Alabama... ;)

I propose a barter, one repaired bridge in the USA for one bombed bridge in russia.

cms neuf
21 Mar 2024  #3169

Wait ? Udmurtians are now lecturing the West on crumbling infrastructure ?

40 percent of Udmurtian villages are not even connected to a paved road.

NATO is popular with American voters - for a good reason. It is awesome and keeps them safe.

mafketis
21 Mar 2024  #3170

Udmurtians are now lecturing the West on crumbling infrastructure ?

Self awareness has never been a russian strong suit.....

Ironside
21 Mar 2024  #3171

..Trump already going soft?

Why? He was never saying what they said he was saying. You need to know that out there media are full of lies, manipulations and propaganda. One needs to learn to discern what is what.


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