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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 27



Miloslaw
29 Dec 2025  #841

Russia is imploding because Russian people are opening their eyes and turning against Putin....



Novichok
29 Dec 2025  #842

Yeah, a post from RT! HaHaHa! what a prat!

You just dropped to the bottom as an adult...

You see...Adults like me read both sides. RT and CNN...Children don't, so they won't have nightmares...

Novichok
29 Dec 2025  #843



Zelensky's Palace To Burn In Revenge Russian Attack? Putin, Generals Unveil 'Alarming Retaliation'

If Zholes did it, it will cost them dearly.

Second point: I am never, ever wrong...I would start by flattening Zplace and every official building in Kiev. I said it many times...

Tlum
30 Dec 2025  #844

The "Russian agent" truth is coming out :?

The scientist who helped create Novichok believes Vladimir Putin's Russia is "still developing" chemical weapons. Dr Vil Mirzayanov was part of a team of scientists working at the Gosniiokht institute in Moscow during the 1970s as they worked to develop a new type of nerve agent.

express.co.uk/news/world/2151215/i-helped-create-novichok-secret

Novichok
30 Dec 2025  #845

The "Russian agent" truth is coming out...

I am a secret CIA agent who wants NATO dead and the EU off US military welfare. Hence, my support of Russia.

My other mission is to shoot 007 dead.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #846

I am a secret CIA agent who wants NATO dead

But....why would the CIA want NATO dead?

Theoretically organizations which you can control are alot more efficient than a bubble of govs you can't....which then even would look elsewhere for control....in the worst case to the global adversary!

Nah, Novi....the CIA would rather use you to look for russian and chinese spies....bots....high tech....secret meetings behind the US' back....such things! :)

Well....come to think of....playing the hard core Euro/NATO-hater....and the unwavering Putin-friend, would actually be helpful with your mission! Gaining sympathy, maybe even trust...the first foot into the enemy door, so to speak! ;)

cms neuf
30 Dec 2025  #847

flattening Zplace and every official building in Kiev. I said it many times...

They are not able to - the air defences there are better than the North Nigerian rusty missiles

That's one reason why the NN murderers prefer to bomb unguarded women and kids in their homes.

Novichok
30 Dec 2025  #848


Trump says NO to von der Leyen - What happens next is unimaginable!

I know that you, Euros, won't watch it, so here is a short version:

Europe is a dead man walking. America is fed up. Trump is the executioner. Free ride is over. Pay up. Or the US markets are closed.

I like three things: short speeches, referenda, and ultimatums. I hate "please" and "OK?"

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #849

Europe is a dead man walking.

How do they always say?

Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

cms neuf
30 Dec 2025  #850

Free ride is over. Pay up. Or the US markets are closed.

Oh god, back to this **** again ? Golden Cow tried that a few times and the market gave him a punch on the kisser and he backed down after a few days.

It's simple, even to junior engineers, close the US market and other markets will be closed to American exports

Alien
30 Dec 2025  #851

closed to American exports

It won't happen, but if it did, the world would very quickly learn to live without the US.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #852

.....I doubt that very much!

We would look like Nord Korea very soon....

Alien
30 Dec 2025  #853

Nord Korea very soon.

This would only happen after russia occupies Germany, not before.

cms neuf
30 Dec 2025  #854

We would look like Nord Korea very soon....

No google and microsoft would be tough

No fb, WhatsApp and Apple would take so e getting used to but replacements would arrive quickly

Apart from that ? What would we really miss in our day to day life ?

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #855

...Europe has a significant and growing dependency on US high-tech, especially in cloud computing (US firms hold ~70% market share), software, AI, and digital infrastructure, creating risks for digital sovereignty, data access (CLOUD Act), and economic competition, prompting EU efforts towards strategic autonomy through initiatives like Gaia-X and increased investment in domestic innovation.

This reliance extends to critical sectors like banking, energy, and even defense, with European tech investment lagging behind US counterparts.

Key Areas of Dependence

Cloud & Software: US giants (Amazon, Microsoft, Google) dominate the EU cloud market, with European providers holding minimal share.

Digital Infrastructure: High reliance on US tech for core digital backbone, from telecom components to submarine cables.

Artificial Intelligence (AI): Europe lags in AI development, relying heavily on US advancements, notes.

Semiconductors: Dependence on foreign supply chains, including the US and China, for crucial chips.

Cybersecurity & Surveillance: Use of US software for law enforcement and intelligence (e.g., Palantir).

Defense: Reliance on US software and systems for advanced weaponry (e.g., F-35, Aegis system).


Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #856

That (points above) is already a big and rising part of the modern economies, the societies not even mentioned!

And without a modern, competitive economy we won't be able to keep our standards of living or jobs....we will fall behind to third world status! Poor and instable!

Unrest, possible civil wars, with stronger neighbours making plans for us, without us...people leaving, fleeing....the whole nine yard!

cms neuf
30 Dec 2025  #857

Interesting stuff BB

So the cloud capacity and the cables is certainly an issue

The chips I think are mostly from Taiwan plus Europe has its own production

I think I could step back in time to 2023 when Chat Gpt didn't exist. I don't know what I would do for music recommendations though

And of course we can live without Palantir and surveillance

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #858

And of course we can live without Palantir and surveillance

Well, that is not a dependency right now....maybe Europe has become aware of the dangers, but for many other stuff its just to late!

To many dependencies to mention....if it would be only Google or X...but it isn't anymore!

...the other alternative would be of course China (always waiting on the outside), just exchanging Washington with Beijing....I say, no Thank You!

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #859

.....its a real quagmire!

....
A Digital World Shaped by Others

Let's be blunt. Recent data shows that between 80% and 94% of European tech companies rely on US infrastructure. In the UK, it's 94%, and in France, 80%. Even the Spanish banking and energy sectors are 100% dependent. Also, 69% of Europe's cloud market is held by US firms, with only 13% domestic share.This isn't nuance, it's dependence.

This dependency means European business, governance, and infrastructure are subject to US rules, legalities, and political ripples (CLOUD Act, FISC, export controls). Even pro-sovereignty strategies like Gaia‑X or EuroStack remain embryonic.If that dynamic doesn't change, our fate is tied forever to US strategic interests....

northatlantic.fi/the-high-price-of-europes-tech-dependence/

Alien
30 Dec 2025  #860

...I say, no Thank You

Think it over again... pragmatically, like a woman before marriage. A Chinese prince might be better than an American cowboy.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #861

A Chinese prince might be better than an American cowboy.

Here I will forever disagree!

The well known kin in the US will be always (to me) preferable to that unknown stranger from far away...even smelling and burping, heh:)

Of course, there is always a third way....putting ourselves back onto our own feet again!

Alien
30 Dec 2025  #862

way....putting ourselves back onto our own feet again!

Together with Poland and France... I came to the seaside in my Mercedes, on New Year's Eve I will open French champagne and my wife will make Polish bigos... and there will be fireworks, which, as you know, were invented by the Chinese.

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #863

....and here I thought that was Gandalf for the Hobbits! :)

...okay....better bow out here now....

Torq
30 Dec 2025  #864

One interesting thing to watch is the USA-Venezuela conflict. China has already voiced their support for Venezuela (and so did Russia).

If America doesn't care, attacks Venezuela, deposes Madura, and installs their puppet governemnt, then it means that they retained at least a little bit of their former power.
If, however, TACO tacoes again, and Americans prove to be impotent even in their own backyard, then it will indeed be
wise to learn Mandarin
.

cms neuf
30 Dec 2025  #865

Putler was told at one of his dumb tv meetings that the NN troops are just 15km from Zaporizha. In fact they are 50km away but Putler told the drunk idiots to advance on the town this week.

Operation Certain Death for a few thousand poor bastards this Christmas as they try and force march 50km in the cold and in a wide open space. Again though they choose this rather than mutiny.

Torq
30 Dec 2025  #866

The well known kin in the US will be always (to me) preferable to that unknown stranger from far away.

Well, maybe for you they're kin. Not for us.

You don't know how many times I read online from MAGAmericans: "they're not white, they're Slavs" (about Poles and Russians). So maybe the coming new multipolar world order will be about white supremacist anglo-saxon MAGA racists (and their Jewish overlords) against the rest of the "inferior" races (Chinese, Slavs, Latinos etc.)?

Maybe it is time for the nazi c*nts, for whom a Russian/Polish blue-eyed blonde isn't white enough because she's a Slav, to have their anuses stretched a little bit? A little bit denazified and demilitarised? The more I learn about MAGA and the more I read what they say online, the more I warm to Putin.

Alien
30 Dec 2025  #867

You read too much and you radicalize yourself

Bratwurst Boy
30 Dec 2025  #868

@Torqi

.....and that would be especially stupid as for the Chinese we "whites" are all Europeans...its impossible for them to differentiate between us, the same as for most of us they are more or less all Asians!

To split the bit of strength we have together into the old historical conflicts would be the end of us....

Bobko
30 Dec 2025  #869

You don't know how many times I read online from MAGAmericans: "they're not white, they're Slavs"

To hardcore American Nazis, Italians and Greeks are "greasy wops" and "sheepfuckers".

Mind you - these are the two founding blocks of Western Civilization we are talking about... hahaha!

American racism is as glorious as it is incomprehensible.

Lyzko
30 Dec 2025  #870

Same old bigotries, Bobko, nothing more, nothing less!
Rich, are you listening?


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