Coronavirus in Poland

Yes but there is differnce, they have physcially run out of oxygen, in sweden there was plenty but they made the decision not to provide to aged care homes, and the elderly were not taken to hospital.

And these bastards feel superior to Dr. Mengele. I wonder if "the elderly" who were denied oxygen feel the same way.

It was a tragic event. But what should have they done, in your opinion? Do you think they had that oxygen but stored it for VIP patients?

Good to hear that many of the restrictions will get lifted over May. Hopefully there will be no going back.

Only if the Poles take back the authority to destroy Poland with one memo back. It took Germans a lot more.

Yes it is good news having declining numbers of infections.....but I am still curious that when people contact doctors/hospitals to say they have all the usual symtoms of Covid, what advice are they given....are they simply told to stay at home because their condition is not that serious even though breathing is difficult or is there a more sinister reason like lack of hospital beds.....in short are medical staff/doctors allowed to give their own opinion of someones condition and recommend admission to hospital or are they being held back by bureaucrats...?

I think that's one of the really important topics that no journalists seem very interested in.... news media in just about every country have totally screvved the pooch on covid related stories which is why I mostly just stick to available numbers (and even those are often kind of.... suspect).

Sorry mate, but "screvved the pooch" makes no sense....

replace the two v's with one w.... It's an American idiom meaning to utterly fail in a public and humiliating manner (through the choices one has made).

I've also heard a major mess caused by incompetence or bad judgement referred to as a 'pooch screvv' (again replace the v's with one w)

I can't think of any country where journalistic coverage of covid met the barest standards for honesty - it's all panic pr0n and sensationalism and obfuscation.

...and bootlicking.
To me, the single most amazing covid factoid is that the top 13 counties on the mortality table are in Europe - the rich "democracies" with world-class universities, scientists, medical resources, compliance, and the police to write tickets for breathing too fast or having sex with an unapproved person. What's up with that?

worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BTW, India's is 147 per million vs Poland's 1760. Somehow, India is in the news as the epicenter of the covid hell.

Yeah..well...the top 3 in this list are:

US
India
Brazil

....all definitely not in Europe....6 of the 13 aren't....and neither is exactly famous for the best health care!

And for Germany, with 9 neighbours...everyone doing it's "own thing"....it is remarkably well off. Better than UK, an island....or countries with only one or two neighbours!

The only number worth quoting is the rate, not the total. Totals are the tools for the covid terrorists to be used depending on what they want to say.

In the US, to scare the hell out of the ignorant sheep, it's always that scary 500,000 without mentioning that we are 15 or so on the per-million mortality scale.

Another form of manipulation is hiding the age of the dead. They treat 80-year-old guys as they do 8-year-old kids and ignore the life span data.

Really?
You think Germany has done better than UK?
In terms of where we are now.?... please do not bore us with stats that no longer relate to now.....as you Germans sometimes tend to do... :-)

Germany..... 988
UK..............1870
Poland........1760

Deaths per million. Assuming that coding methods are the same.

worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

The UK had it easy compared to Germany!

No stupid EU commission who botched the buying of the vaccines, and being in island made it much easier to control who comes in and who gets out.

But according to this list Germany has less deaths than the UK...


Sometimes? I live for stats, you know that! I feel naked without my stats!:)

Overall certainly. Significantly fewer deaths and cases relative to population size, and the British have suffered more economically.

bigissue.com/latest/uk-hit-harder-by-pandemic-poverty-than-in-france-and-germany/

The British government got the vaccine right, but has otherwise an appalling pandemic record. Remember, the PM bragged that he had been shaking hands with ICU patients and as a consequence fell seriously ill with Covid.


To be fair, that seems to have been more the fault of the various diverging interest from the EU states than the commission. The poorer Eastern European countries who insisted on penny-pinching, the French who insisted that the EU would also buy large quantities from French companies who could not deliver and so on.

I'm done with being fair!

For such cases the EU was being build and held up as an advantage for all member as in "together we are stronger", but as we needed its financial and diplomatic power, influence and infrastructure they BOTCHED it...countries only working for themselves have been better off.

No, you didn't need any of that. Your death rate at 988 per million is actually higher than South Africa's 906. The top "democracy" with money to burn lost the death rate race to a sh*ithole. But, don't feel bad...So did 30 other "first-world" EU countries as well as the US.

Seem that all that IQ, wealth, love of "democracy", and social order don't buy much influence with Mr. Darwin.

I don't care about South Africa....Germany is geographically in the worst place a country can be, we should only compare ourselves with other countries in such a situation.

And even so, the death rates are nearly the same, with Germany having to handle a much more difficult situation with nearly non-existent borders and masses of people moving in and out...and neighbours who try their own ways....and still being wealthy and democratic (I'm not that sold on the IQ:).

Next you will tell me poor, dumb dictatorships with next to no health care have it best!

...than South Africa????? Are you on something?
You can wiggle all you want but the fact is that the EU is where the covid virus felt most at home and loved killing left and right while ignoring your money and the most advanced everything.

BTW, what that table doesn't show is how much it cost the Western "democracies" to get the results that are worse than the crappiest places on earth. It would probably make your head spin if you could see how many millions per person per month added to the statistical life span - if any - that bill has been so far and, with all that money spent, be beaten by Honduras and Guatemala that did nothing.


So to keep Brussels bureaucrats and foreigners happy, you kept your borders open and let people die? I got it, internal lockdowns - good. Border lockdowns - bad.

Youre not a 100% pure libtard unless you wearing a mask with a message printed on it!!

In the ultimate libtard virtue signal event of the evening! President Biden is giving a speech to congress, but with only a few members because of covid...ooooooh how safe of them!!

Yet, theyve all been vaccinated and are double masked sitting 6 ft apart.. What a strong safety message just like when he was on zoom with Putin...lol

Just one problem, as the hypocrites we all know they are!

During the Trump impeachment hoax they had a full Senate sitting shoulder to shoulder for days! LOL But, please dont look or remember that! lol

Well its been 15 mins of this kabuki theatre, time to switch this BS off!

Hey, if you have beef with Brussels go tell them, alot of Europeans are unhappy about them handling things too...

But it could have been easily alot worse here in Europe, one only has to look at the top of this death list:

US
India
Brazil

worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

And hopefully come summer the worst will be behind us!

'night!

This post is so stupid that it's not worth my time. Again. Once is enough.

Mafketis, please take it from here. You are good with numbers and I am exhausted.

First a moron...

From dailymail.com:

Two fully vaccinated people meeting inside would be 'incredibly safe' says JVT - but it's still not allowed on cautious roadmap out of lockdown

To that moron, btw, "incredibly" is science.

Now, a comment from a genius:

Overhyped pandemic, that has a 99.7% survival rate, and so-called 'experts' like this are destroying the economy, killing patients by virtually shutting down the NHS instead of concentrating on the 0.3% who might be at risk. How come none of their figures don't factor in the fact that natural immunity has protected 1000 times more people than their jabs have. Why don't their models factor in natural immunity when they're calculating herd immunity. Here we have natural immunity that is 1000 times more important at protecting people than their jab, and they're acting like natural immunity doesn't exist. I don't believe for one second that these people are stupid, so why are they deliberately ignoring THE single most important part of herd immunity.

You be the judge...

And this from my British clone:

This is shameful and total nonsense but unfortunately the brainwashed masses will just do as they are told. I don't know if I hate the Government or the obedient sheep the most now as there is absolutely no excuse for this anymore. It's quite clear to see that this is absolutely nothing to do with a virus and all about an evil disgusting world agenda to control us by fear and manipulation. I struggle to see how anybody cannot see what's happening now as it's so obvious and they are not even hiding it anymore.

If students think their senior year has been ruined by Covid, remind them that from 1964 thru 1970 many seniors took their senior trip to Vietnam.

Having checked the link you provided, I think it's back to elementary school for you. The first thirteen countries on the list are not ranked in order of the number of deaths, but by the number of cases. But even allowing for that, the last time I saw the map of the world, the USA, India, Brazil, Russia, Turkey, Argentina and Colombia were not in Europe. Russia, to be fair is a moot point (what's new.....) in terms of it's geography but politically, I would hardly call it one of the world's

as the numbers turn....

short ansswer: everything's falling, which is good

percent of positive test results: 12.80 % (of 67,00 tests ... the new below 15% normal is maintained

hospital admissions: -924 (big fall, now it's 9 days in a row with negative numbers... and the number of hospitalized patients falls below the psychologically important 25,000 line

deaths: 541 (too many but over 150 fewer than last Thursday... usually one of the days with the worst numbers)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 437 (down 15 from yesterday)

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own

Polish corona figures have been out 15 minutes,where is the daily dawg detailing here.
lolol just beat me to post.

You can sort data in either order and by any column. I always quote deaths per million. Then you get this:

1Hungary 2,838
2Gibraltar2,791
3Czechia2,724
4San Marino2,648
5Bosnia and Herzegovina2,593
6Montenegro2,364
7Bulgaria2,357
8North Macedonia2,291
9Slovakia2,132
10Belgium2,075
11Slovenia2,041
12Italy1,991
13UK1,870
14Brazil1,863
15Peru1,821
16Poland1,774
17USA1,769
18Croatia1,724
19Portugal1,669
20Spain1,667

Except Brazil, Peru, and the US, it's all Europe.

Now, now, you can stop that wriggling. Why a list of 20 countries when the original list was 13? So let's examine the top 13 which you cited in your original post.

1Hungary 2,838
2Gibraltar2,791
3Czechia2,724
4San Marino2,648
5Bosnia and Herzegovina2,593
6Montenegro2,364
7Bulgaria2,357
8North Macedonia2,291
9Slovakia2,132
10Belgium2,075
11Slovenia2,041
12Italy1,991
13UK1,870

You said that the highest death rates were in the richest democracies with the top universities and resources. I think you'll find, me old fruit, that most of the countries you've listed are far from rich and are only fledgling democracies or have highly volatile and unstable political histories.