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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Levi
16 Jun 2015  #1

Poland under pressure of EU to accept a larger share of the 160 000 illegal immigrants that arrived only at the last 5 months in Italy.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/206807,Poland-under-pressure-to-adopt-EU-migration-strategy

Thoughts?

My opinion:
If the president was a weak slave of Bruxelles like Komorowski, probably poland would receive a amount of immigrants equivalent to Kutno. Remembering that the bulk of those immigrants come from countries dominated by Islamist Radical factions that have the declared purpose of infiltrate in Europe, like Al Shabab (somalia) or Boko Haram (Nigeria and Chad).

But Duda is a strong man. He will not accept silly demands from Bruxelles that can endanger his own people.

Fortunately now Poland have a good president and a good man that can avoid the worst for the country.
brahmin
16 Jun 2015  #2

Agreeing to these demands from EU is a political suicide.
jon357
16 Jun 2015  #3

Komorowski

Duda

It isn't America where the President is chief executive - the President of Poland does not decide.
One issue is that if Poland wants to continue to be the largest net recipient of EU funds, they can't be too picky about the rest.

I see nothing wrong with Poland accepting her share of Syrian refugees. It isn't as if other countries have never accepted refugees from Poland.
Gosc123456
16 Jun 2015  #4

Not hard for EU to convince Poland ;)
Harry
16 Jun 2015  #5

I see nothing wrong with Poland accepting her share of Syrian refugees. It isn't as if other countries have never accepted refugees from Poland.

Syria certainly did.
Polsyr
16 Jun 2015  #6

Now you got me curious. I am not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious.

I am familiar with Syria taking on a large number of Armenian refugees (at least half a million, some claim as much as 1 million, and they later integrated into society incredibly well) as well as Kurdish, Turkmen, Circassian, Lebanese, Palestinian, Iraqi, Albanian, Croatian, Bosnian (Balkans in general) and even some Cypriots...

But I wasn't aware of Polish "refugees" in Syria. A small number of Poles ended up there towards the later stages of WW2 usually together with French or British groups. Some ended up in Syria via Iran and said they have escaped from Soviet labor camps. Yet another small number resettled in Syria after WW2, usually academic types, orientalists or those married to Syrian spouses. In general up to the 80s and 90s the opinion of the average Syrian of Poles was very high as a result of this specific diaspora.
Harry
16 Jun 2015  #7

Now you got me curious. I am not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Completely serious. Tens of thousands passed through Syria. Thousands stayed. Thousands more in Lebanon.
national
17 Jun 2015  #8

Except there wasn't any Syria at that time Harry but a French colony governed by the British. Anyway,it seems that it is time to leave EU.Poland is not UK or France and we don't want any immigrants from Africa.Besides,there is already enough problems in PL even without them.I believe Polish people will say "no" to those leeches.Poland needs to show Brussels middle finger on this.No pasaran!
gregy741
17 Jun 2015  #9

those guys from thins link don't look Syrian too me.they are african economic immigrants.how comes they are not being deported?leftist madness

time to get out of EU...and fast..idiotic kolchoz
Harry
17 Jun 2015  #10

Except there wasn't any Syria at that time Harry but a French colony governed by the British.

No, at the time the bulk of the Polish refugees went through there Syria was a League of Nations mandate assigned to the French for administration. After the fall of France the Vichy regime ordered most Poles, such as the Carpathian Brigade, to leave. In 1941 the area was taken over by British and Free French forces.

Feel free to have a read about the history here:

As a result of the Second World War over five thousands Poles reached Lebanon to find the irsafe haven. Although their colony was not more numerous compared to other nationalities, between 1943-1950 they built up a politically and socially recognizable group. This work describes a historical and political context of those surprising Polish-Lebanese relations.

msz.gov.pl/resource/b1abe2fd-2531-4b77-8704-a40afc3dcc16:JCR

The fact remains that Poles sought and found shelter as refugees in Syria; now it's time for Poland to repay the nation's debt.
Avalon
17 Jun 2015  #11

These people should be sent back to their departure point and not allowed to land in Europe. The majority are economic migrants, who, through word of mouth and the internet, believe that they will reach their Eldorado, money, jobs and a place to live will be provided, with free healthcare and education.

The reality is that only a few can be accommodated and the general public throughout Europe, are losing patience with their weak leaders who are not reacting quickly enough to stem the flow. It has been estimated that if current trends continue, we could be looking at 500,000 next year and 1 million a year thereafter. Most of these refugees, are single, young men. Do you not see a potential problem with this? If the EU accepts 60.000, what message will that send to the millions that still want to risk the journey.
PLSK
17 Jun 2015  #12

It's UK and France who should pay that debt for sitting on their hands in September 1939.
Levi
17 Jun 2015  #13

"The fact remains that Poles sought and found shelter as refugees in Syria; now it's time for Poland to repay the nation's debt."

At that time, the Arab League and sirian arabs were totally against the Polish refugees (which were mostly Ashkenazi).

During the 1947 and 1968 Arab Wars most poles were kicked out by the Arabs.

So which debt?
Polsyr
17 Jun 2015  #14

Levi what on earth are you talking about? If you have a source please let us know the source. There were no "Arab" wars in 47 and 68. There were Arab-Israeli wars in 48, 67 and 73.
Levi
17 Jun 2015  #15

But those are the wars that i was talking about. :)

I just refuse to call thm Arab-Israeli was because they were pure agression of all arab countries against Israel, which, God knows how, could resist when all arab countries united to destroy them.

After they being defeated, as a revenge, Hafez Al Assad expelled all Ashkenazi Poles from Syria (and Lebanon, which was, at that time, under syrian occupation).

So no lenartowicz, Abramowicz or etc exists anymore in Syria.
Harry
17 Jun 2015  #16

But I wasn't aware of Polish "refugees" in Syria.

Here's an article about Polish refugees in Lebanon:

dailystar.com.lb/Culture/Lifestyle/2013/Jan-28/203989-polish-cemetery-last-remains-of-refugee-community.ashx

Lots of countries have accepted a total of millions of Poles over the years, usually when Poland wasn't doing so well politically, but there have also been millions of Poles who went to other countries for economic reasons: it's time for Poland to pay that debt off.
Gosc123456
17 Jun 2015  #17

Do some Poles (among politicians and all "those who count" ;)) talk about it? Once more, Poland shows how selfish this country is. Most Poles, it's always "daj mi" and the others should do.... Easy to understand why other European countries hate Poland.
Harry
17 Jun 2015  #18

Once more, Poland shows how selfish this country is. Most Poles, it's always "daj mi" and the others should do....

Would be fairly amusing to gather a selection of people from countries which have hosted hundred of thousands of Polish refugees within living memory (such as, off the top of my head and in no particular order, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Uganda, Kenya, etc) who want to live in Europe and just teach them how to say "Teraz, kurwa, my."
Gosc123456
17 Jun 2015  #19

I must admit that when I talk to most Poles, I'm fairly disgusted by what I hear and as a result, I carefully select topics ;).

Poles believe everybody owes them something ("daj mi") but they never agree to give a grosz to anyone coming from somewhere else. Poland is the no.1 EU funds' receipient but of course does not give a sh... about countries such as Greece and Italy, which bear most of the burden.

I would not be shocked to have EU help countries like Italy and Greece - these cannot do everything.
Levi
17 Jun 2015  #20

"but there have also been millions of Poles who went to other countries for economic reasons: it's time for Poland to pay that debt off."

DEBT? Do Poles went to other countries to live in Welfare and suck money from government? NO!

Poles went overseas to work, to build, to contribute with another countries. They had LEGAL status. They build entire nations or states as the entire south of Brazil, Michigan or Parts of Australia.

If there was any debt, the progress that those countries made due to Poles already paid it.

It is absurd compare Poles that developed countries overseas with Sudanese or Somalian refugees that have no skills to help Polish society nowadays and will live using taxpayer money.

"Once more, Poland shows how selfish this country is"

So what do you suggest that Poland should do? Accept them all without restriction? Just Pakistan have 7 times the population of Poland. Should Poland just open the doors and accept as much as possible?

By the way, you, a great defender of gay rights, what do you think would happen if those 160 000 Somalians, Sudanese, etc (Salafi Muslims at majority) were allocated in a district and then a Gay Parade like the one that you praised passed through this district? I mean, do you know what happens with gays in Somalia or Sudan, right?

"Poles believe everybody owes them something ("daj mi") but they never agree to give a grosz"

The Poles gave their sweat, blood and tears, spilled in far away countries that they build in the last century. That worth more than any money.

My country included. Our greatest president, Kubiczek, was a Pole.

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