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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Pakistan_Lahore
6 May 2016  #2,241

@Dougpol1 don't abuse anybody. I want a solution! I see your Government is accepting Refugees, why I don't know!

I can't understand it. May be you people are swimming in $$$ like Germans? Your Government is allowing Refugees, but a Normal Pole is not happy with the Government decision. Brow and Black or even White plays no role, but what Poles think that interest me.

Can someone give me a reasonable answer of my question?

Right, because they would NEVER unleash such a force on misbehaving nations like Poland. This crisis was manufactured and we are still only in the early stages.

If it is in an early nursery stage try to solve it.

German woman or Polish girls, yes you can find such stuff in Internet, or Pakistani German or American, Or European marriages fails, their problem, also many get divorces in Pakistan, Indians... what should I do with that?

This was not the topic at all after all, we are discussing a General problem which Poland is facing now a day. I am not in mode of such cheap discussion. Please remain on the topic
nothanks
6 May 2016  #2,242

Should Poland accept refugees

YES:
- they will leave anyway for richer nations
- Natives will mistreat & convince them to leave
- we should avoid EU fines

NO:
- Islam multiplies
- stand tall with our V4 allies
Pakistan_Lahore
6 May 2016  #2,243

No sorry I am not convened with your answer 100%, but 75%

Should Poland accept refugees

YES:
- they will leave anyway for richer nations, (than send them to the richer nation at the early stages)
- Natives will mistreat & convince them to leave (yes I believe hate could rise, even if I had not enough food at home, how could I help other in need?)

- we should avoid EU fines (what kind of fine.. nations has always a choice)

NO:
- Islam multiplies (Nope I am not convened with this answer, if as you state here, even 1000's of Muslims migrates to Poland, can't change Poland into an Islamic country :) Nope not possible, I am worried about Polish Economy not about Islam in Poland. Muslims are living since 1950's in England and in the US, are they now Islamic countries? )

- stand tall with our V4 allies (give something and take something is the way to solve this problem too, Poles should not bow their head at any cost)
Dougpol1
6 May 2016  #2,244

1 don't abuse anybody. I want a solution! I see your Government is accepting Refugees, why I don't know!

But you were being silly PL. So I will apologise, but to say that the war is over in parts of Syria is so very far from the truth. No refugees will be sent back against their will until there is a negotiated ceasefire. That's what the Refugee Convention of 1951 states........

So no solution there.
In fact, if Merkel hadn't acted, where would we be now?

but a Normal Pole is not happy with the Government decision.

The Poles that I associate with are ashamed of the 7,000 limit set - never mind the unbinding racism of "White Christians only" - which pretty much reduces it to Assad and his gang - who don't need refugee status, as they have the Russkis doing their dirty work for them now.

Natives will mistreat & convince them to leave

You have some growing up to do young man. Nobody is going to mistreat refugees, and if they do, the full force of the law will come down on them - or EU law in the name of sanctions if you prefer?
Pakistan_Lahore
6 May 2016  #2,245

Brother believe me, this is true that in many part of Syria, in some 85% of Syria. I have relatives living in Arab's countries, they told me about Syria, Syrians are going back to their home also from Saudi Arab, Iraq, Turkey, from many part of Europe and where are they going? You will not read in such news in internet. But may be later. In many part war is over now in Syria.

Thanks for your apologies, I accept it. What make us different from others, our Education make us different from others. Even if you meet an uneducated person in your life, never loose your patience. And never think that all people are same from a nation.

In fact, if Merkel hadn't acted, where would we be now?

Merkel is a German chancellor, she will think to save Germany first, since when she is thinking for Poles? You people should think for a solutions yourself. Merkel is not a polish chancellor, she could make mistakes too. I never understand why Germany invited all the refugees from the world. Africans, Asians, even south Americans and Red Indians are in plan. I don't know, what brilliant plan is behind that idea to hurt own Economy... Some fool can do such a mistake.
nothanks
6 May 2016  #2,246

In fact, if Merkel hadn't acted, where would we be now?

Less death, assaults and rapes. More money in Europeans pockets. Less social disarray. Native Europeans more accepting of Muslims. Trump still in heated Republican race

Nobody is going to mistreat refugees, and if they do, the full force of the law will come down on them - or EU law in the name of sanctions if you prefer

there are articles quoting refugees stating Poles treat them differently after last summer. Atleast staring and whispering. Non-refugee foreigners stating Poles have verbally and even physical mistreated them since last summer

Keep threatening and we'll leave the EU. The other homogenous Central/Eastern nations will follow. You'll be stuck with only Turks, Somalia's and Moroccans in your precious sinking ship Union. We are the last Whites left, get on your knees or we'll leave you to the barbarians
Dougpol1
6 May 2016  #2,247

Keep threatening and we'll leave the EU

Sorry Nothanks - is that the will of the Polish majority? A referundum? That would be interesting. But you have forgotten one thing? It would take ten years for a country to untie its EU trade deals and obligations, and Poland will be net payers soon enough - so leaving isn't really going to do her any favours in the short term.

Non-refugee foreigners stating Poles have verbally and even physical mistreated them since last summer

Everything as normal in Tri-City and Silesia - my two ports of call. In fact I see far more non-whites than ever before. They must enjoy being here!
AdrianK9
6 May 2016  #2,248

This is all part of a plan to destroy the last few remaining bastions of homogeneous conservative Catholic European countries that haven't yet been overrun by liberalism, PC, multiculturalism, deviant sex, and all sort of other ills.

Considering Poland loaned the IMF $8 billion to 'save the Eurozone' paying 250k EU for every migrant that Poland doesn't accept could very well be worth it in the long run.

Polish politicians need to simply just get out of this debate and ask 'Why are we even being asked to accept migrant? Is there no room in majority Muslim countries that are pretty well off economically where there is no war going on like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, U.A.E., Kazakhstan, Qatar, Bahrain, etc.? Why don't these people go to countries that match their religion and culture first?'

Or they should just use Israel's argument - 'We're a small homogeneous country - we can't accept Muslim refugees' It seems to be working fine for them - no politicians are asking Israel to take in migrants. The slaves, I mean African migrants, that are there get paid pennies by the government to dig ditches in the middle of the Negev.
Pakistan_Lahore
6 May 2016  #2,249

@nothanks

We are the last Whites left, get on your knees or we'll leave you to the barbarians.

No no not in such a way. Take all your benefits before leaving EU, as long as Markel is in the power, Poles can jump as high as they want all their wishes + dreams come true. Think for the future of Poland, even if Poland wants to leave EU, so Poles will not get down. These are the only good year which are left for Poles, once Merkel get out, no one will get you such Benefits again. Take more give less ;) than leave EU.

Leaving EU is easy, come on the street and start protesting, thats it...

"It would take ten years for a country to untie its EU trade deals and obligations"

10 years is a good time. Don't know about the future of EU after Merkel. I am not sure..

@AdrianK9

Is there no room in majority Muslim countries that are pretty well off economically where there is no war going on like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, U.A.E., Kazakhstan, Qatar, Bahrain, etc.?

No one even request EU to accept Refugees from Syria, this is only Merkel's wish and not other Europeans or Europeans countries. I met many Germans, 90% are against her decision. Even Austrians said Merkel's Plans.. I can't understand, why Dr. Merkel is doing this? Anyways they said Merkel is happy. Turkey has accepted some 4-5 million refugees and enjoying bounty from Madam Merkel. Iraq has also accepted many refugees, but they are returning now to Syria. Saudi Arabs has also accepted some 4 Millions Refugees. Now Syrians are also leaving Saudi Arab because in many Parts fight is over.

May be Germans has many $$$. But again not my problem whom to help or not. Germans are throwing money so this is the only time for Poles, once Madam Merkel gone, everything will gone.
AdrianK9
6 May 2016  #2,250

Don't know about the future of EU after Merkel

I do - dark, hairy, bearded, and burqa clad.

Whites are going to be a minority in Europe - just like is already happening in the US. According to a recent census report, less than half of children under 5 are white. This means that this generation that is currently children will live in a majority non-white United States. This is just with current trends - things like amnesty are the much higher birth rates of blacks and Hispanics versus whites are going to speed that up even more.

By 2060, census.gov predicts that non hispanic whites will account for only 43% of the total population - a declined of 20% from 2014. By the year 2044, non-Hispanic whites will account for 49% of the US population - meaning according to current trends that is the year where Whites will officially become the 'majority-minority'.

Meanwhile, thanks to the promotion of race-mixing, census.gov says the two or more races populationis projected to be the fastest growing over the next 46 years , with its population expected to triple in size (an increase of 226 percent).

Sad... very, very sad... and terrifying...

The worst thing is that for a long time most people wouldn't of thought this would happen in Europe too - yet the migrant crisis managed to change the demographics, culture, and politics of Europe within a few short years.

I just pray that Poland doesn't get sucked into this race-mixing, pro-Muslim, mutli-kulti garbage, and the destruction of the conservative Catholic family comprised of a husband and wife. We can only wait and see...

No one even request EU to accept Refugees from Syria, this is only Merkel's wish and not other European or Europeans countries.

The economic migrants started coming into Italy - mostly the Africans and into Greece - namely the Arabs with a bit of Africans. Their whole plan was to go to Germany and take advantage of the welfare. Then, once Merkel said she would accept anyone that would make it into Germany, well then they got totally flooded.

This lady has some sort of complex where she feels that Germans must pay for what they did during WW2 - as if they owe the world a huge debt. Thanks to her complex, she has murdered German culture. Germany already had a ton of Turks living there - but at least these guys worked and assimilated. I know many Turks that live in Dortmund and they're pretty friendly people that have settled in Germany, follow the laws and customs, and do not push their agendas and beliefs on others. They appear to be hardworking and do not simply rely on German welfare money. The economic migrants that have come in are the total opposite - they destroy the streets, leave trash everywhere, rape and fondle women (like during NYE), attacks people coming out of churches, march with sharia signs, their imams speak in mosques supporting isis, they get free food, housing, and money - yet they demand more and on top of it they force their culture upon Germans. Many Germans have been evicted out of their homes because the government took over the properties to make it into a migrant shelter. Germans have had to deal with all the crime caused by these people. The state is spending tremendous amounts of money helping them. Yet not only do they refuse to assimilate but rather just establish ghettos where the police are even scared to go in, they don't want and push their sharia views on others, establish hisbah patrols, and even fondle, rape, and attack European women.

The worst thing is, the politicians actually are shocked that the average citizen does not want Muslims there - like they're actually surprised that a small town of 1000 people wouldn't want 300 people coming in speaking a totally different language, with a totally different culture and different reliigion.
InPolska
7 May 2016  #2,251

@Adrian: why the hell should you care? You are simply mad because your aunt lost her job in Germany? You tell us 24x7 about how rich your family in Poland is so why should your aunt work at a lousy hotel to clean German multi culti toilets????? Just get her back to Poland and leave the Germans alone!

You are in America so Europe is none of your business!
Dougpol1
7 May 2016  #2,252

:))) Has he ever been to Poland? What a tool.
InPolska
7 May 2016  #2,253

@Doug: as you know, we have a bunch of "experts" here who know everything because they have YouTube or the Daily Sh###t . If his aunt is of the same fiber, let Germany kick her out!
gumishu
7 May 2016  #2,254

You are in America so Europe is none of your business!

Adrian's family is in Poland - so yes he does have a business in Poland

let Germany kick her out!

she is a citizen of Germany you nationalist bastard
InPolska
7 May 2016  #2,255

but why should he care about Germany and other places he has never set a foot to?
gumishu
7 May 2016  #2,256

he has interest in Germany because his aunt lives there, comprende?
Dougpol1
7 May 2016  #2,257

doing to help

You're right - nothing!

It has to be down to the will of the people, pressing the government to do our will, by enabling the aid agencies. And Western Europe is so doing.

The Polish government are doing zilch, and that will be remembered. Polish aid agencies and charities are another matter, and full respect to them. And we will be lucky if their unsung aid is remembered :((((((

I am lobbying at this end and donated 20 pounds a while back to Benedict Cumberbatch's appeal. Pathetically small, and shameful, but the Polish state takes 20 percent of my small earnings, as well as 20 percent of huge earnings, so I hope the rich contribute pro-quo.......

My daughter wanted to go down to Hungary to volunteer in the camps but nothing came of that......
AdrianK9
7 May 2016  #2,258

You are in America so Europe is none of your business!

I have Polish citizenship, I speak fluent Polish, I own property in Poland, I pay taxes to the Polish government, and I travel to Poland and all over Europe, North America, and Israel for work and vacation regularly. I have family in England, Germany, Holland, Poland and Russia. So yes, much of what happens in Europe, especially Poland is my business.

You tell us 24x7 about how rich your family in Poland is so why should your aunt work at a lousy hotel to clean German multi culti toilets?????

Actually, I only mentioned 1 time that my family falls the whole spectrum of dirt poor to multimillionaire. Also, she worked at a 4 star hotel as a kitchen manager or waitress or something - not a maid. She is a German citizen so she a lot more to lose thanks to the migrant hordes than the migrants who cost her, and dozens others, their livelihood. While a migrant from a country that may not even be torn apart by war gets to relax in a swimming pool, my aunt and dozens others have to stress about making the rent payment.

but why should he care about Germany and other places he has never set a foot to?

I was in Dortmund just a few months ago. I traveled all over Europe and have family in many other countries aside from Poland, Germany, and the US. Actually, I have the least amount of family members in the US - it's just my father, my mother, and I - the vast majority of my family is in Europe.
InPolska
7 May 2016  #2,259

@Adrian: I get you have visited Germany, England and Holland and you claim to be an expert on European affairs!!!: lol"
gumishu
7 May 2016  #2,260

donated 20 pounds

well shame on you

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