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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Ironside
19 Nov 2015  #1,741

I meant to say I don't know why some British would necessarily look down on the Polish population.......

Excuse me gents but I don't really get what you are jabbering about!
Lets summarise what we know for a fact:
1. We know that those refugees/illegal immigrants/whatever do not want to came to Poland.
2. For some reason countries they what to came to, instead of sending them back where they came form try to send them/sell them, transferring them to countries they don't have wish to go.

WTF? Paranoid nonsense!

Generally it is true that Muslim culture and values generally will clash sooner or later with those of the Christian nations/post-Christian.
Why would you willingly invite trouble or a future tube onto your country?
Madness.
Do you have vested interest in promoting their transfer from Germany?
Tamarisk
19 Nov 2015  #1,742

wroclawuncut.com/2015/11/19/another-anti-islamic-rally-hits-the-rynek/
WielkiPolak
22 Nov 2015  #1,743

I don't think these marches are that necessary. It's not like the party currently in charge of Poland is pro Islamic immigration.
Levi
22 Nov 2015  #1,744

But the Marches are necessary so the party see that they have support of the Population against the Islamization project of Angela Merkel.
delphiandomine
22 Nov 2015  #1,745

A march by a tiny minority is not going to change anyone's mind.
Wulkan
22 Nov 2015  #1,746

Indeed because the mind has been already made by the leading party - No to the migrants.
delphiandomine
22 Nov 2015  #1,747

That's what you think.

Germany has ways of making Poland squeal, and a small reminder that Poland needs German support in many areas is enough to concentrate the mind. PiS are many things, but they're not stupid.
Wulkan
22 Nov 2015  #1,748

PiS are many things, but they're not stupid.

Indeed, that's why they won't do things against the will of the vast majority of Poles by letting in the migrants.
Levi
22 Nov 2015  #1,749

A march by a tiny minority is not going to change anyone's mind.

Oh... The same minority that you said that voted for PiS, and at the end, THEY DESTROYED, THRASHED, PUSHED FOR OBLIVION the Party that YOU (THAT DOENS'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT POLAND) support?

Yeah, the same "minority"

Hahaha Only at your delusional wishful thinking the Anti-Illegal Immigrants are a minority in Poland, Delph.

PiS are many things, but they're not stupid.

Sorry, but the lapdog that you support (PO, Kopacz and Tusk) suffered a defeat (i know, it is difficult for you to swallow that) and PiS dont give a fu*k about what Merkel think.

We all know that.

And that is why you, turkish friend, is so afraid.
delphiandomine
22 Nov 2015  #1,750

The same minority that you said that voted for PiS

I assure you that the tiny minority demonstrating didn't vote for PiS. If you think they did, you're laughably out of touch with Polish affairs. Their compatriots already warned PiS that they know that it's the party of Israel and Washington.

THEY DESTROYED, THRASHED, PUSHED FOR OBLIVION the Party that YOU (THAT DOENS'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT POLAND) support?

What party do I support?

Face it Levi - you're equally unwelcome here. These people most definitely do not want some random brown skinned non-EU immigrants turning up, and they're not going to sit there and go "hmm, yes, he also hates Muslims". No, they'll equally punch you in the face for being "different".
Wulkan
22 Nov 2015  #1,751

I assure you that the tiny minority demonstrating didn't vote for PiS.

Some voted for PiS, some for Kukiz and some for Korwin.

Hahaha Only at your delusional wishful thinking the Anti-Illegal Immigrants are a minority in Poland, Delph.

He doesn't even think that, he is just influenced by jon who likes that argument line which goes "the entire world is very progressive and only some tiny uneducated minorities that nobody cares about are not". Delph is the least charismatic from them 3 he even tries to compose sentences like them, a bit from jon, a bit from Harold, that's delph, he wouldn't exist on his own.
Harry
22 Nov 2015  #1,752

Hahaha Only at your delusional wishful thinking the Anti-Illegal Immigrants are a minority in Poland, Delph.

Why are you so happy that the majority of Poles oppose people who come to Poland and lie on their applications for residency by doing things such as falsely stating that they have never broken Polish immigration law?
Ktos
23 Nov 2015  #1,753

We do not want any refugees!!! We have enough problems, I think Poland could make concessions for persons of Slavic origin but that is all, the rest of the refugees should not gain entry to our country. Those people take our country for granted and even if some would appreciate our sacrifice then it is too much of sacrifice for Polish people, we are not rich or equipped to house refugees from other countries. Those refugees from non-Slavic countries differ, to a great extent, culturally from us. Cultural match is of great significance here. We can not have people living in Poland who hold completely different morals and ideals to us because it will cause friction and will in time transform Polish society and love Polish culture the way it is.
Levi
23 Nov 2015  #1,754

Some voted for PiS, some for Kukiz and some for Korwin.

Exactly that.

Delph first tought that PiS is a minority.

Than reality proved that he was wrong.

Than he tought that only PiS is anti illegal immigration and Anti-Merkel Islamization project.

Than reality showed that he was wrong again (Everyone remember the epic speech of Korwin, adressing the Illegals as Human Garbage).

That makes me conclude that whatever Delph/Harry/Jon357
/Inpolska thinks now, the reality will prove that they are wrong again. And again, and again again.

We do not want any refugees!!! We have enough problems

Exactly!
spiritus
23 Nov 2015  #1,755

We can not have people living in Poland who hold completely different morals and ideals to us because it will cause friction and will in time transform Polish society and love Polish culture the way it is.

We've said this a million times already on this post (slight exaggeration) ;)

However, it is worth repeating !

Tolerance and liberty are ideals that most Western countries aspire to possess. The 21st Century conundrum is how do these Western societies react when faced with a minority within their borders who want to aggressively change the culture of the country to be more in line with their own (different) set of beliefs and ideals. A truly liberal and tolerant country would turn the other cheek and allow every minority the right to live according to their own culture but we've seen how that ends up already in the UK, France, Belgium, Germany etc so perhaps tolerance and liberty are not always the ideal we should be pursuing ?

What do you think ?
dolnoslask
23 Nov 2015  #1,756

"tolerance and liberty are not always the ideal we should be pursuing" Hard pill to swallow, but sadly today I think that this is true.
Ironside
23 Nov 2015  #1,757

tolerance and liberty are not always the ideal we should be pursuing

Understanding and reception of those ideas in modern societies should be examined because it is all not what it seems. As a rule mentally of progressives who are claiming those ideas for themselves seems to cherish a rather totalitarian mindset which by and by is quite removed from those classical thinkers who forwarded ideas of liberty and tolerance.

Meaning their idea of liberty and tolerance is not necessarily what those ideas are all about, it is rather mutation of ideas, version of neo-Marxist and their take on society.

Please do not deviate from the topic
Polonius3
23 Nov 2015  #1,758

totalitarian mindset

There is no more totalitarian system than the PC dictatorship and its LGBT and feminist agendas. Their approach to freedom and tolerance works only in one direction: accept our take on things or else!
dolnoslask
23 Nov 2015  #1,759

Mod "tolerance and liberty are not always the ideal we should be pursuing" I think that this maybe at very core of this topic, maybe it begins to question the pressure that people feel under to accept mass immigration, or in simple terms the idea of doing the right thing, I am open to the forum further debate.
Dougpol1
23 Nov 2015  #1,760

UK, France, Belgium, Germany

Terrible countries Spiritus:) A huge number of skilled Poles seem not to think so though. But they must be suckers for punishment because they moved there and have no intention of coming back.

Those bloody foreigners, eh?

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