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USA News and Poland - part 13



pawian
5 Mar 2025  #1201

I have to shoot some uninvited POS at 2 am.

Don`t shoot your wife by accident. hahahaha

"Freedom of speech" according to Trump's USA:

It is a hoax. We are witnessing events which leave people in shock at how crazy and sick the US is becoming.

johnny reb
5 Mar 2025  #1202

Anyone want pizza besides me ?
I'm buying.

pawian
5 Mar 2025  #1203

Pizza is junk food. Take care of your health, johhny, We don`t want to lose you.

Paulina
5 Mar 2025  #1204

@johnny reb, what are the options available? :d

We are witnessing events which leave people in shock at how crazy and sick the US is becoming.

I mean, even in Poland we had TVN that was fact-checking PiS... And CNN is such a big, famous news TV station... Is this normal by US standards? Do the media tone down every time Republicans are in power or is it new and is happening only now? o_O I don't understand this...

Pizza is junk food.

Not real Italian pizza, surely... 🍕 🥲🤤

Barney
5 Mar 2025  #1205

@Paulina
You need to understand manufactured consent, basically US media self censores for a number of reasons.

The development of the internet is just a sugar rush with blogging and commenting. The best description of it I have heard was my colleagues comment, she said "it just gives every dickhead a bigger stage to dance on". Hard to argue with that. With regard to freedom of speech that is supposedly so precious, what do people do with it? The answer sadly is not to question those with power instead its used to call random strangers names on the internet. The Catholic church was opposed to the printing press for very good reasons...basically broadcasting without consequences doesn't end well.

Przelotnyptak1
6 Mar 2025  #1206

What I am witnessing is your separation from reality, especially your insane comment about America being so full of hate, devoid of substance, that the virus of woke ideology irreversibly infects you-like the Minotaur, forever imprisoned in the labyrinth created by the fury-sick mind, never to find the exit.

Przelotnyptak1
6 Mar 2025  #1207

The above post,post #1207 was directed to Pawian it's quote was mysteriously removed

Novichok
6 Mar 2025  #1208

The answer sadly is not to question those with power

Hey, azhole, PF Americans question power in the US every day.

It is you, Euro bootlickers, who never, ever question your swamp because you are scared.

Prove me wrong and show me a post from you, Atch, Lenka, or Tacitus that "questioned power" - with names and over a specific issue.

johnny reb
6 Mar 2025  #1209

The Catholic church was opposed to the printing press for very good reasons..

Name three.

Novichok
6 Mar 2025  #1210

I watched Trump's speech and Democrats reactions.

Based on this, the Democrat party should be declared insane and locked up.

When you can't stand up and honor a 12-year-old girl who was mudered by an illegal migrant, you are a sick and incurable imbecile.

Alien
6 Mar 2025  #1211

When you can't stand up and honor a 12-year-old girl who was mudered by an illegal migrant

I thought this was about the "achievements" of the current American government. I must admit that these also press me into the seat and I cannot stand up.

Paulina
6 Mar 2025  #1212

You need to understand manufactured consent, basically US media self censores for a number of reasons.

This doesn't answer that particular question of mine though...

The Catholic church was opposed to the printing press for very good reasons...

lol That's some weird view you have here, Barney... o_O

Hey, azhole, PF Americans question power in the US every day.

Well, ordinary Americans - yes, but what about your media? It doesn't look like they're doing a good enough job.

It is you, Euro bootlickers, who never, ever question your swamp because you are scared.

Aaaand that's one of your many lies. Poles and Europeans not only question their governments/politicians on the internet, but also they take it to the streets to protest, unlike you, Rysiek :)

And as for protests in the US - it looks like Trump doesn't really like that much this idea of "freedom of speech" that you guys boast about so often on PF:

reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-federal-funding-will-stop-colleges-schools-allowing-illegal-protests-2025-03-04/

A fragment from the article:

"A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to questions about how the White House would define an illegal protest or how the government would imprison protesters. The U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protects the freedom of speech and assembly."


  • freedomofassembly.jp.jpg

amiga500
6 Mar 2025  #1213

I've seen Americans commenting.. Apparently even CNN isn't fact-checking Trump and Republicans..

What you've seen are ai bots. stop falling for social media psyops. edition.cnn.com/politics/fact-check

Paulina
6 Mar 2025  #1214

What you've seen are ai bots.

How do you know that those particular comments were posted by AI bots? You simply don't know that.

edition.cnn.com/politics/fact-check

From what I understood in those comments they were talking about fact-checking on TV by anchors, journalists not fact-checking Trump during press conferences, hence Macron "doing their job", I guess.

On the other hand, Trump makes it harder to be fact-checked by either, for example, not responding to CNN reporter's questions at all or banning important news agencies from meetings altogether:

cnn.com/2025/02/28/media/tass-russian-state-media-oval-office/index.html

"A member of Russia's state-owned news agency gained access to the Oval Office on Friday to cover President Trump's sit-down with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky - even as the AP and Reuters were barred from the high-level meeting. The White House said the journalist was not authorized to be in the press pool."

Btw, since that guy was "not authorized" then how on Earth did he end up in the Oval Office? Anyone can just walk in into the Oval Office like that?? LOL

Barney
6 Mar 2025  #1215

This doesn't answer that particular question of mine though...

I think it did. To answer your question directly the media do tone down every time Republicans are in power and oftentimes when the other side of the coin is in power. Media has to get news from somewhere and if they are denied access to sources they suffer financially.

That's some weird view you have here,

Not really, pumping paid for publications to an uneducated population is just pure propaganda. Look at the vax/crypto/AI nuts today with the internet. Simply giving uneducated or undereducated people information is not empowering and can be downright dangerous. The same whack jobs are usually opposed to universal education.

When The Church and Absolute monarchs had a monopoly their propaganda tended to be coherent.

Novichok
6 Mar 2025  #1216

Poles and Europeans

How about here and on local forums.

Show me one post on a local Euro forum by Atch, Tacitus, Barney, or you ripping into a named politician for his pro position on Muslim migrants.

even as the AP and Reuters were barred from the high-level meeting.

In your opinion, what does this prove?

Novichok
6 Mar 2025  #1217

The U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protects the freedom of speech and assembly."

You can assemble on a private property all you want.

You cannot assemble anywhere you want without permission.

Ironside
6 Mar 2025  #1218

How about



Novichok
6 Mar 2025  #1219

Hey, Iron, I am glad you posted this video. I did, too...a different one but with the same message.

I also said how proud I was of Poland for taking this stand.

My recent posts here were about PF bootlickers who never said anything remotely close to what that Polish woman told the EU weasels in your video.

The difference between a MEP and ordinary people is that a MEP has absolute immunity against hate speech laws.

Atch, Barney, and Tacitus don't so they act like the cowards they are.

No, I am not brave because I am protected from being charged criminally by the First Amendment. In the UK or Germany, for example, I would be charged and imprisoned.

Anybody here wants to post this in Germany or the UK?

Hitler was a great leader and patriot.

Muslim migrants are cancer and should be expelled.


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