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Now the diffence between "democracy" and "tyranny"...

I like democracy better...I can shlt on the sidewalk and nobody will notice.

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Try this eye test.....

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Not if you are an illegal migrant coming across the channel in a small boat. You won't get vetted, and will be welcomed with a stay in a 4 or 5-star hotel, with many other benefits as well.

Do you believe that?

No 5 star hotels, just crap ones with all the furniture and fittings stripped out and shared rooms. Hard to know what the "many other benefits" are. Do you mean the £49 quid a week pocket money? That's a basic, and no decent person would deny them (or anyone else) healthcare.

The vetting happens afterwards, and nothing, no politician, no bloke in the pub whining about dinghies, no anything, will change that.

Btw, it's only £49 if they have to buy food and pay for fuel etc. If meals are provided, it's £9.95.

Yes I live here


Stop spreading disinformation. They also get mobile phones, driving lessons, free bus travel amongst other things. 3 meals a day, 4 with supper. The hotels are fully furnished. It's estimated each illegal migrant costs the taxpayer £40,000 a year to keep in a hotel with all their benefits. 50,000 will probably cross this year, others have been in hotels for 2 or 3 years. No wonder Labour reckons we have a "black hole" of £22 billion.Since they came to power it is now £50 billion

So do I, and pay taxes too.


Stop spreading disinformation. The state does not provide either.


I should hope so too. Not that the meals are very good ones.


The hostels and hotels have been stripped out of furnishings. I have been in one, recently.


That won't decrease any time soon, and it is the fault of the Conservative Party who were afraid to stand up to the brexiteers.


We do, however migration contributes more money than it takes.

The black hole in public finances was caused by subsidising public utilities operated by companies, mostly foreign, that were taking huge profits while also pretending they couldn't operate without state subsidy.

The Labour councils do.


So because you have been in one, all hotels are stripped out, over 300 of them? Do yourself a favour and stop writting bollocks. There are many videos on youtube filmed by undercover people that show you are spreading Labour supporter BS.

No, asylum seekers do not get a free mobile phone. In reality they are expected to spend part of their £9.95 a week on access to telecommunications.
fullfact.org/online/asylum-seeker-free-iphone/


No, asylum seekers do not get a free driving lessons. In fact they can't even get a UK driving licence.
migrantsrights.org.uk/resources/know-your-rights/driving/

I expected better from you than these racist lies. Is everything OK at home? And at work?

Another person who doesn't live here, and knows nothing about day to day news about illegal migrants. migrationwatchuk.org/news/2021/11/11/illegal-immigrants-handed-an-estimated-30000-taxpayer-funded-mobile-phone


You might be right about the ones crossing the channel illegally, but the Afghan asylum seekers that recently came into the country do. There are also charities that help too.

It's sad that he seems to believe that they do.


Tell us about these lessons.

Hopefully you're not confusing people coming to seek asylum with the British Army translators that have been allowed to settle for very good reasons.


Several actually, most recently in July. They are dumps.

Sad that you believe all the trash churned out online by racists.

Really? So what are you doing in Poland? Sitting on the fence? What about taxes?
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You nailed it, Vincent.
Just wait, he will go crazy about fascism as Reform is on the rise. You will have a good laugh.
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Oh dear, I see you can't be bothered to read the information you're given. Perhaps that might go some way to explaining your current circumstances. Anyway, your "news" is from 2021 and so about the times of the pandemic, when some asylum seekers were given phones because immigration staff were unable to interview individuals face to face due to COVID-19 restrictions.


No, they do not get free tax-payer funded driving lessons. Stop lying.


Charities can do whatever they want with the money they are given (provided it's in keeping with the purpose for which the money was collected). Perhaps there's a charity out there which offers aid to struggling construction workers?

When they come from France, they don't qualify for asylum in the UK.

Asylum seekers must apply outside of the host country to give that country an opportunity to say no. It may take a while to process the application...tough shlt.

If they apply from within, now the host has the burden and the expense of deporting the applicant if the application is rejected... if you can find him.

Why would anyone be for more migrants? It's insanity. I guess insanity is a package deal...They are insane in more than one way because logic is a foreign concept to the idiots.

Only feelings...Women and LGBTs...

Dig a bit deeper with google and you will find some do.

Also kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/why-30k-has-been-spent-in-kent-on-driving-lessons-for-asylu-321435/

Oh dear. Are you too lazy to read the sources you link to? Or too thick to do that?


So, they are not asylum seekers: they have been granted asylum.


So, refugees are given exactly the same as British citizens. I wonder for what reason you could oppose that. Well, apart from the obvious reason that racists oppose foreigners getting anything.

Why would boat people or any other illegal immigrants receive anything? The logic behind it is somewhat convoluted.

It's been argued many times on TV debates here, but still they let them in. The worse thing is the UK gave the French government the best part of £800 million to stop the boats, but it has been proven that the French police helps them to set off, and the French navy assists them to British waters. It has also been witnessed that the soft border force give the French back the life jackets for the next lot to come over. There was one boat last week with 125 onboard, a new record.

I see you still can't understand the difference between legal and illegal.

You have plenty of Russians on the Isles. Commission them with boats, machine guns, pay well for patrolling the waters, and pay a bonus for no illegal immigrants reach the British shore. That would be £800 million well spent.
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Legal immigrants are those who come legally with a passport and a leave to stay in the UK indefinitely. All other kinds are illegal regardless of your liberal gaslighting definitions.
Also, aside from that unwarranted sarcasm of yours, are you even able to explain the logic behind it?

Like it or not, there is t an obligation under the UN treaty to claim in the first safe country.


The French are taking the píss. Part,y a brexit thing, and partly because their government had lost billions due to the EDF contract.


Why not try it where you live. See if the police and the courts have anything to say about that,

I'm laughing already, Ironside


I wouldn't approve of any violence against illegal migrants. Britain has its own navy, which could turn them back, but the government doesn't want to do that. They welcome them instead.

Easier said than done, physically.


Neither the current nor the previous government 'welcomes' people crossing the sea, however we are lucky to have governments that try not to kill or treat badly.

So you do admit my idea is feasible.

Different time, but the method remains the same.We, the men, should shrivel up and hide in the closet
, being ashamed of the word racist. no different from formerly abused " your opposition to homosexuality is the indication you are homosexual yourself" different words, but the method is not changed. The goal in mind is to shame weak sheep without an opinion of their own into submission
So, Lazarus, you can show your "racism " comments in your oversized a*ss because favoring your own race, above all others, is a noble trait, something to be proud of. Yeah, I am the proud racist. I prefer my race, like 99% of all people, including black, yellow, or red

Defending the country from an invaasion is a military activity. Cops and courts have no jurisdiction in this matter.

When the enemy crosses the red line, it dies. That's my legal right while protecting my home.

It isn't.

Mate, it's simple,why should people that have NEVER contributed fiscally to The UK get the same as British citizens?I understand that GENUINE refugees should be helped but not to the same level as British citizens.And in any case, most of the illegal immigrants are not genuine refugees but economic migrants.There is a HUGE difference!

@Miloslaw
Fa6's supporting mulsims who would stone them to death is fvcking priceless.

Well, in the case we're discussing both the Brits and the 'evil immigrants' (™Daily Mail) have contributed exactly the same, because both have been until very recently children and so unable to contribute fiscally. But why let facts get in the way of racism?


There is. Just as there's a huge difference between guilty people and innocent people, but we still take the time to work out which are which. Or perhaps you think we should only do that for white people?