IF EU let refugees to Europe

Only about 30% many from pakistan afganistan ect.its all hapened suddenly.i mean middle east been destabilized for years.and some of them illegal immigrants been living in turkey for years.then suddenly ...boooom


Nahhh..man i spent over a year watching ukraine conflict every day.i know how misserable people from war torn country look like..they ïont wear new expensive clothes,dont look healthy and carring smartphones.

Those yazidi people got hit hardest by isis war.why nobody taking them?we could take em.some syrian christians and donbass kids.those are ones who need help most

Many have already reached Europe. You have heard less about them, since the numbers are smaller. Also, they are a predominantly rural population and are living in a wider area - many of those who fled their homes are now with other scattered Yazidi populations. The Syrians who are being welcomed in Europe now are from mostly urban centres which have been/are being destroyed.

One of my pals is Albanian. He runs a bar in Katowice which is a no go area for the police :) His name is Big Tony, and he is a gentle giant, but would crush any trouble in his battle cruiser with one iron hand.

The best sort of geezer. They threw away the mould when they made him. More like him please EU!

The non-white is non-essential. The idea that they don't know the laws or their rights (or be worrying about their status) is extremely appealing to a certain kind of employer......

"Turkey, Grzegorz? No. They're from Syria. That's where the civil war is."

Who ? Vast majority in those crowds AREN'T SYRIANS. Vast majority of actual Syrians comes via Turkey - a friggin safe country where no one is trying to kill them. Dude, check the basic facts.

"That wouldn't go down well with 99% of people that travel abroad.

I once had to be in Berlin Zentrum (about 160 miles away) within 4 hours. I finished work at 13:00 and had to be there by 17:00 or else. Made it by 16:00. If there was a "big fence" like in the bad old days, I could've been stuck for 1, 2, 3 hours at the border."

******** again. You have no clue how the border control looked like before the whole Schengen nonsense. One could barely notice it.

In what way are Syrian war refugees not Syrian war refugees?


Do you realise there's a difference between a refugee camp in Southern Anatolia and an upper middle income country in Europe.

BTW, do avoid words like 'friggin', Grzegorz. Swearing in foreign languages is rarely a good idea, especially if you misunderstand the nuances and the context.

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Greece, Afghans attack Syrians... People from friggin Afghanistan that is half of the world away. Madness.

Nope - in fact it's the opposite of common sense. People only stop being refugees when they find a settled life. This does not mean a refugee camp, nor does it mean a train carriage, a sleeping bag in a station or a foot on the other side of a barbed wire fence.

And no, Grzegorz. The view from under your stone may suggest that there's


in a refugee camp in the desert than in Europe but reality is rather different.

It's almost fun to watch ultra-conservative, small-minded cheese-parers scream in outrage when society behaves decently towards those in need of help; to see those who huff and puff about Christian values become absolutely horrified when they are actually put into practice.

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"People only stop being refugees when they find a settled life. This does not mean a refugee camp"

Nonsense, as usual. If they leave a refugee camp and illegally cross the border "seeking better life", they are criminals.

"It's almost fun..."

Too bad you fools enabling another Hitler rise to power won't be that cool...

When they weren't living in Syria? (the father of Aylan Kurdi had been living and working in Turkey for three years before deciding to try their luck at sea...) It'

When theyr'e not Syrian? (google 'fake syrian passports')

Maybe some Germans think they were draining a pond by saying that refugees already in Europe can come on in, what they don't realize is that it's a river. For every refugee in Europe there are ten more waiting in the wings (not counting things like family reunification).

It will take years for most of the refugees to be in employable shape (language and culture lessons among other things) and nobody seems to worry about how any of this is going to be paid for.

So what? Maybe you'll suggest next they should pop back to Syria.


Again, so what? maybe you think this will make the crisis suddenly vanish.


That's the stock Tory response to everything from compulsory education, to maternity leave to winter fuel for the elderly. Given that Europe is the richest continent on earth, I'm sure we'll think of something.


Compassion in a humanitarian crisis. Not that your comparison is the least bit valid since there are 500 times the number of people involved...


One reason among many that you lose all these arguments you try to start, Grzegorz.

A huge mass of humanity, especially a spontaneously mobilised one, pushing forward in a largely haphazard manner -- and that's we what are dealing with a present -- will include war refugees, victims or persecution, economic migrants, opportunists, doting parents, con artists, the mentally stable and unstable, criminals, skilled craftsmen, welfare cheats, religious fanatics, potential terrorists and many others. The dynamic nature of this phenomenon makes it extremely difficult to readily determine who is who. Their overall impact is impossible to predict but it will most likely be quite pronounced, costly and hazardous to their host societies. That human stream may be compared to flowing lava that envelops, reshapes and damages everything in its path.

One can say an 80-million-strong country such as Germany can easily absorb a "mere" 800,000 refugees, but will it end there? There are many millions of impoverished people in the world who will want to follow, possibly also from places like China and India. And when that occurs, more human traffickers will emerge to accommodate the refugees, exploiting and cheating them to the hilt.

What's the answer? Nobody really knows. But one can venture the guess that what is happening and will happen seems likely to become one of the major developments in the history of mankind.

No but there's no reason to head to Europe if they're already out of harm's way. Since when has being a refugee supposed to be a free ticket to welfare paradise?


So, Bandladeshis, Afghans etc passing for Syrians will make an economic contribution ..... how?


Well European governments can just go ahead and dispossess their native born for the sake of benefits migration...

youtube.com/watch?v=PnE3cFEehxg

Thats an easy one to answer. The ECB will print another trillion Euros and VAT will be raised to 30% so that it can be paid back. We are all in this together, especially if you work for the EU and are on unlimited expenses like Mr.Tusk.

You have a very liberal interpretation of paradise. But then again, in the same paragraph you also suggest that a tent city full of hungry refugees in the desert is "out of harm's way".


You're suggesting that Bangladeshis and Afghanis don't make "an economic contribution"?


Whoever suggested that a. governments plan to 'dispossess' anyone or b. that where one was born trumps ones needs or rights?


Oh, those cruel and scheming elites....

Look at Bangladesh and Afghanistan and answer.


Did you look at the video? There are similar stories coming out of Sweden where the elderly and working poor are being unhoused in favor of refugees.

Look more closely at the Bangladeshi and Afghani communities in Europe already.


Yes, stories. Perhaps you mean people in social housing with more rooms than they need. This issue has existed since long before mass immigration and exists in Warsaw now.

"Compassion in a humanitarian crisis. Not that your comparison is the least bit valid since there are 500 times the number of people involved..."

This humanitarian crisis wouldn't happen if top Gerries and your other heroes weren't blabbling across the world that "our doors remain open" and so on. It's been provoked on purpose.

"One reason among many that you lose all these arguments you try to start, Grzegorz."

1. Soviets were financing "anti-war" crowd and other useful idiots in the west, that's a fact not my personal opinion.
2. Some involved were paid traitors, majority were just useful idiots that really believed in those idealistic slogans ("Europe without nukes" etc.) thinking they are doing something good but in fact they were working for the most cruel regime ever.

This time it's hard to say it who's behind this whole mess but that's surely not Dalai Lama.

Thats the only true thing I have ever seen you write. Those elected and unelected so called leaders, who ignore the will of the majority.

Well, the commissioners are appointed by democratic governments and are relatively easy to remove when their term of office ends. But no sinister 'elite'...




Tin foil helmet.

His royal highness is upset at the inconvenience of waiting for another bus....

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Oh yes, these people will be wonderful additions to any country

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Multiply this by a thousand.... coming to Poland

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Deflect with platitudes and non-answers, or blame colonialism and "racism"!

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Psst no one is "illegal"!

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What do you expect mafketis? Aside from the rather right-wing and anti-immigration youtube shote you've posted, do you really expect an unprecedented humanitarian crisis to be pretty.

It's hilarious to see all the straw-clutching. especially since none of what you say is anything more than talk. the reality is managed by people whose actions and thoughts (in your case of course there's only thoughts) are not predicated by fear and prejudice.

People have come, are coming and will come, no matter how much anguish it seems to cause you.

@mafketis

It's remarkable how those people manage it to turn Europe into the Middle East ins just a few weeks.

"You can get the refugee out of the Middle East but you can't get the Middle East out of the refugee".

So you have no real answer to the content besides name calling?

Nice of you to finally admit that, just let everyone in and hope for the best is not good political policy.

just because they're migrants doesn't mean they don't have refined palates!

youtube.com/watch?v=xbTSdUdQeLY

Don't try to pass off sub-optimal food to them, they'd rather root around in garbage cans!

Poor starving refugees throw away substandard provisions

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In what way is that "name-calling"?


A strange comment.


So you'd feed guests mush?

Who posts those videos to YouTube?

I watched both videos and saw a few hotheads, young men, causing trouble or refusing food. The majority are grateful.

Then it's good that the majority of the 'refugees' are not young men ... oh wait ...

Exactly. Stuck in a camp at Calais. Exactly the reason we should manage the situation properly.

No doubt if we took a vote here on the PF what the results would be to either send them to a WEALTHY Arabic country or pamper them until it comes back to bite Europe would be.


I haven't heard of any of the European Refugee Huggers taking in any refugee families in their homes yet either.


And he got banned for saying it as all the pent up feelings here on the PF. People were ready to EXPLODE with frustrations why the truth of this mess could not be discussed. Levi was right on the money and refused to be denied.

His statement here is EXACTLY why the United States is refusing to take these "refugee's" in.
Quote by the United States government, "These people are a very high security risk for our nation." Thank you very much.
They have now infiltrated (taken over) most of Europe with tens of thousands more on the way.
Only a blind man could see the motive to what has happened/happening.

Some here and we can expect a lot more.


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