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jon357
8 Jul 2017  #141

The statement is clear. Currently Europe faces a threat from conservative nationalism. We see this in Poland, in Hungary and elsewhere. Any initiatives that resist this are to be welcomed.
Dirk diggler
8 Jul 2017  #142

I understand you now. So basically you're saying that conservative nationalism is to be stopped at all costs.

What if that is the will of the people though? Through a democratic voting process in the us as well as central and eastern europe, people chose politicians who share similar ideologies of securing borders, asserting sovereignty, and putting their citizens interests first. They also spoke against accepting migrants. What if people want to remain loyal to tradition, culture and their country? Are these huge chunks of society the enemy because they share some of the viewpoints ascribed to conservative nationalism?

Again don't think I'm trying to offend you or something i just want to pick your brain to understand someone else's viewpoint
jon357
8 Jul 2017  #143

The Soros Foundation does immense good in the world, especially in the field of education and promoting democracy. They had a very positive effect in Poland, after the wall came down, and long may they continue in their good works.
jon357
8 Jul 2017  #144

What if people want

Not everyone does, and those who do fund their own projects.
Polonius3
8 Jul 2017  #145

conservative nationalism

Finally a touch o normality. But it is developi ng in Poland thanks to PiS amid the slime, mud and crud left behind by the Tuskitescamstersm libtards and lefties. On TV news tonight they showed a baby that had a brain tumour diagnosed while still in its mother's womb and the birth had to be artificially accelerated. Several chemo sessions have failed to effect a lasting cure, and now the only hope is a therapy costing 100,000 zł. In Poland alone, there are numerous such cases where the only barrier is cash. They exist all over, for instance in Hungary. But Soros preferred to sponsor an anarcho-leftist outpost posing as a university in his native land to spread his venomous propaganda amongst unsuspecting young Hunagrians. If he were a true philanthropist, he wouldl bankroll truly humanitarian projects, not counter-culture political schemes.
Polonius3
8 Jul 2017  #146

which ideology is evil and must be fought is quite clear

It is indeed -- liberal-leftist scamsterism, neo-Trotzkyism, the LGBT agenda and other tendencies out to subvert society and stand everything on its head. We've already had a taste of that for 8 years and it's no wonder the Polish nation rejected more of the same at the polls in 2015. The real Poland is the way President Trump depicted this country -- a people of invincible spirit who know what to defend and are a glowing example other countries would do well to emulate.
Wulkan
8 Jul 2017  #147

The statement is clear.

Quite not.

especially in the field of education and promoting democracy.

Unless democracy chooses conservative values.
jon357
8 Jul 2017  #148

the slime, mud and crud

You've just aptly described the current regimes in Hungary, Poland and elsewhere that fear the Open Democracy project so much.
Wulkan
8 Jul 2017  #149

Quite not, he rather described what happened on the streets of Hamburg last night.
jon357
8 Jul 2017  #150

No. Not at all.
Wulkan
8 Jul 2017  #151

Yes it fits those events quite well, and George Soros will go down to the history as very evil individual.
jon357
8 Jul 2017  #152

as very evil individual.

Now you know that's not true.
Wulkan
9 Jul 2017  #153

We have proved it here in this topic and had no argument to that, you deny just for the sake of denying because it's all you can do. Soros will be remembered as an evil globalist, luckily for him, he is too rich to go to prison.
Polonius3
9 Jul 2017  #154

George Soros

He is the prototype of the old comic-book evil genius or mad scientist out to destroy the world. To him it's a game, something to do, a challenge. "It's Tuesday, let's see if we can bankrupt the economy of Cambodia with a few well-placed moves and then we'll give Costa Rica a go," chucles the evil Soros, rubbing his mits with glee. "Next week we'll set up an Open Societies University in some Third World nation to promote my 'progressive' causes."

He doens't need any more money -- the additonal fortune he makes is just a challenge, a game on the world's chessboard that he loves to play. Attributing any positive, non-megalomanic values to Soros is utterly absurd.
jon357
9 Jul 2017  #155

He is the prototype of the old comic-book evil genius or mad scientist

In your fevered imagination.

We have proved it here in

Don't be silly.
Wulkan
9 Jul 2017  #156

Don't be silly.

You're the one who is silly because you can't make any argument. Soros is a piece of sh1te and the whole world knows that, especially the poor countries.
delphiandomine
9 Jul 2017  #157

You're the one who is silly because you can't make any argument.

...

Soros is a piece of sh1te and the whole world knows that,

Not much of an argument there, is there?

If the right wing media told you that Borys from Rzeszów was now public enemy #1, you'd be straight on here to foam at the mouth about him too.

If you hate Soros, then why aren't you spewing hatred about other investors too?
jon357
9 Jul 2017  #158

Soros is a piece of sh1t

A very eloquent argument. Have you considered joining a debating society.

If the right wing media told you that Borys from Rzeszów was now public enemy #1, you'd be straight on here to foam

Spot on, even including the specific choice of English words, ones he's only ever encounter online.

If you hate Soros, then why aren't you spewing hatred about other investors too?

We know the answer to that; some people are just very easily influenced by the media and other skilled manipulators. Hence the hatred of the world's best known philanthropist.
delphiandomine
9 Jul 2017  #159

Hence the hatred of the world's best known philanthropist.

The thing is that it's all so obvious when you look into it. Soros has made no secret that he believes in transparent societies as being the best way to counter totalitarianism. It's at complete odds with the right wing American businessmen such as Peter Thiel, who gave big money to Trump's campaign and who has been fighting against the media for years.

When you understand why Soros is 'dangerous' in their eyes, then you understand why people like Wulky spout their nonsense online.
jon357
9 Jul 2017  #160

When you understand why Soros is 'dangerous' in their eyes, then you understand why people like Wulky spout their nonsense online.

Absolutely. Authoritarian fascists see transparency in public life as a threat, and their knee-jerk useful idiots just parrot the crap they try to read on Breitbart etc.

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