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Ukraine elected a new president



jon357
27 Apr 2019  #31

That data is from the Census rather than a 'survey', which by the way, includes Surzykh (with good cause) as Ukrainian.

It's true though that Russian is falling out of favour.

Vlad1234
27 Apr 2019  #32

I understand lots more words of Ukrainian (because of partially polonized vocabulary)

This is true that Ukrainian does have many borrowings from Polish (which are often are borrowings from German originally), but they are often pronounced quite differently from Polish "originals". Sound system of Ukrainian is much more similar to Russian than to Polish, so I wonder how can you understand them so easily. Could you give some particular examples?

pawian
27 Apr 2019  #33

It's true though that Russian is falling out of favour.

I would be surprised if it wasn`t after all recent events..

but they are often pronounced quite differently from Polish "originals".

I just came back from the bathroom, holding a deo spray. UA: (Latin spelling) Dezodorant - aerozol. Ne mistits barvnikiv i konservantiv. Proishov experimantalno klinichnu aprobatsiyu. Ne piddavati vplivu sonyachnih promeniv i temperaturi vishe 50 C.

Do you think I wouldn`t understand it if it was spoken to me?

Sergiusz
27 Apr 2019  #34

Ukrainians are still in thrall to the Russian idea of the Good Tsar hoping to fix the country's ills by edicts from above

My thought exactly. Unfortunately I still see lots of my compatriots falling for this One and Only Savior thing.. The mature civil society is still developing in Ukraine, people vote without applying thorough critical thinking, without realizing the political system of their country. I also predict a very short period of exaltation until Zelenski starts making blunders, contradicting his loud statements on the Olympic stadium debates stage.

Vlad1234
28 Apr 2019  #35

I also predict a very short period of exaltation until Zelenski starts making blunders

According to some reports there is no exaltation with Zelenski in Ukraine in general and at all. Majority of people who voted for him claimed they chose from the two evils and this choice wasn't the easy one.

Sergiusz
28 Apr 2019  #36

I meant exaltation in Z's team..

Vlad1234
28 Apr 2019  #37

This kind of exaltation is prepaid, so why does it suppose to experience any unexpected changes?

Sergiusz
28 Apr 2019  #38

Because when Z-team sees that they start screwing up big time and all Z's acting skills are just not enough to satisfy the electorate - his retorics will become even more confusing and his rating will take a nosedive. Kolomoyski's puppet show will enjoy just a short honeymoon.

mafketis
28 Apr 2019  #39

Sound system of Ukrainian is much more similar to Russian than to Polish

Ukrainian doesn't change unstressed o into a and doesn't change unstressed e, je and ja into i... just that makes a big difference, I've heard Russian dialects that don't reduce unstressed vowels as much and they are a bit easier to understand (but I've been told they're being overtaken by standard Russian).

from the Census rather than a 'survey'

A census is a kind of survey.... and just about everyone agrees that self-reporting is partially political, saying you speak Ukrainian mostly is a way of supporting the political break from Moscow. Ukrainian usage is expanding, but again, that's a slow process.

Vlad1234
28 Apr 2019  #40

Just after Ukraine gained independence this proportion was close to 40/60. Now with loss of Crimea and million fled Donetsk region for Russia, it's maybe 45/55.

Vlad1234
28 Apr 2019  #41

UA: (Latin spelling)

Was it Ukrainian in Latin alphabet or what?

pawian
28 Apr 2019  #42

Yes, I wrote what I read on a deodorant package and they suggested it is/was Ukrainian. Wasn`t it?

Vlad1234
28 Apr 2019  #43

Ukrainian language is based on Cyrillic alphabet.

pawian
28 Apr 2019  #44

Yes, it was written in Cyrillic but I used Latin for obvious reasons. Couldn`t you understand it?


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