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Copernicus was wrong


call1n
30 May 2013  #1

Copernicus: the man who pulled out of his hat that the earth revolved around the sun was blatantly wrong. It has been disproven in the Zetetic cosmogony.

Here is a link: archive.org/details/zeteticcosmogon00recgoog

I am just wondering what this means to pagans and Christians who are subject to an incorrect viewpoint on how the cosmos operates!

You can make that bastard russian or german because he is not polish.
The real Polish cosmogony does not employ modern science as it is older than that.

I don't know much about Slavic Gods, I just know that Odin sent his son Thor down from the heavens and when it thunders that is the sound Thooooor... and he is fighting his half brother Loki... and brave warriors who die go to Valhalla.

This is not a troll... I seriously believe that the earth does not revolve around the sun and I think that post that claim that it does should be put in the trash....

Thank you... and serious nasa scientist also have come together on this claim... including a giant black hole taken with satellites over the north pole which has been whited out....

So I guess it is really your immaturity to "laugh it off" and hide things and delete things that you cannot confront...
jon357
30 May 2013  #2

Copernicus: the man who pulled out of his hat that the earth revolved around the sun

Actually he didn't 'pull anything out of his hat'. Nor did he discover the theory that the Earth revolves around the Sun- he provided proof of an earlier theory from the Corpus Hermeticus and acknowledges that in De Rerum.

Do you disagree that the earth revolves around the sun? On what basis?
AdamKadmon
30 May 2013  #3

Not De Rerum but De revolutionibus orbium coelestium (On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres)

Click the link below to get Owen Barfield's view on the Copernican revolution: Copernican Revolution

Read also the 7th chapter from his book Saving the AppearancesAppearance and Hypothesis

... It was not simply a new theory of the nature of the celestial movements that was feared, but a new theory of the nature of theory; namely, that, if a hypothesis saves all the appearances. It is identical with truth.

That's the key sentence to understand the Copernican revolution.
jon357
30 May 2013  #4

There's a lot of truth in that. Shame the religious authorities had so actively suppressed the dissemination of the original theory to the point that some consider its revival to be a revolution.
call1n
31 May 2013  #5

Do you disagree that the earth revolves around the sun? On what basis?

I disagree with this on the basis that I do not need man's approximation. I have God's word. Copernicus is blasphemy against Thor and Odin...

If you want a complete "proof" if you will read Zetetic Cosmogony.
The greatest proof is the the convection of a lens, proves that light bends... what you see at a distance does not mean it is a straight path....

Why do you have to keep correcting an incorrect model... when the model of the ancients has never been dis-proven?

The planets are also not physical bodies but metaphysical anatomies of the grand cosmos itself... something that has been banned by modern academia...
Just google Chakra planets...
jon357
31 May 2013  #6

I do not need man's approximation. I have God's word.

So did Bin Laden, Torquemada and a whole host of other unsavoury individuals.
call1n
31 May 2013  #7

September 11th was done by man's aproximation... polictical zionism... not some guy in a cave in Afganistan... sorry to burst your buble...

I hate to brake your fantasy... the earth does not revolve around the sun.... that is your mythology that you believe in... look at the woes it caused... endless territorial conflict surrounding a material earth and material world... endless conflict for material resources...

some good that did.

Just prove to me the earth revolves around the sun... prove it to me... prove to me that you are saying that the ancestors knowlege dating back 1000's of years is wrong surrounding metaphysics, and the planets being spiritual bodies.... and you are right in just the past 500 years... what makes you right now?
jon357
31 May 2013  #8

I hate to brake your fantasy... the earth does not revolve around the sun

Yes it does. Can you 'prove' otherwise?

September 11th was done by man's aproximation... polictical zionism... not some guy in a cave in Afganistan... sorry to burst your buble...

Don't be so silly.
call1n
31 May 2013  #9

Yes it does. Can you 'prove' otherwise?

I don't have to prove otherwise... the disproof is in the book the dietetic cosmology. It is on google books. Prove that light travels in a straight path... prove that light actually moves! You can't. Your manly approximation falls right away along with most of modern scientific thought. You are blasphemous against Thor and Odin, and your ancestor knowledge and Gods!

Don't be so silly.

That is a very elaborate conspiracy theory you have that a man in a cave can pull off such an attack, with knowledge of the CIA NSA and DOD... there is no way that could have happened without their involvement...

Maybe you also think wrestling is real.
jon357
31 May 2013  #10

It is on google books

Does that make it right?

rove that light travels in a straight path... prove that light actually moves!

Nothing new.

You are blasphemous against Thor and Odin

Rubbish

That is a very elaborate conspiracy theory you have that a man in a cave can pull off such an attack,

The saudi pilots who carried out the attack might have had a bit to do with it.
call1n
31 May 2013  #11

Does that make it right?

MAybe if you read it, you could go over all 20 or so disproofs of the theory. All which have never been countered.

Nothing new.

I know it is nothing new.... so you have never proved that the earth revolves around the sun? Why do you put shame on your ancestors to say that they were wrong for several thousand years and you are right only for a couple hundred?

Rubbish

It is good to know what you think of the Gods. Son of man, tell me more why you think that the idea of that is rubbish and your idea which has been disproven from the start, as you said "Nothing New".... tell me why you are right!

The saudi pilots who carried out the attack might have had a bit to do with it.

Yes and America is well endowed with the destruction of Israel and well alligned with Saudi Arabia which has never been invaded and are in fact protecting! But you know there were bombs in both the Pentagon... the 2 towers, and building 7...

Do you also think that Hulk Hogan can pull off those wresting moves without the cooperation of the people that are being done to them?
jon357
31 May 2013  #12

MAybe if you read it, you could go over all 20 or so disproofs of the theory. All which have never been countere

Countered centuries ago.

But you know there were bombs in both the Pentagon... the 2 towers, and building 7...

Planes flew into them. Simple as.
Harry
31 May 2013  #13

But you know there were bombs in both the Pentagon... the 2 towers, and building 7...

But did you know that those bombs were put there by Elvis and that the plane which was filmed crashing into the second tower was the one which Glen Miller 'disappeared' on?
jon357
31 May 2013  #14

the plane which was filmed crashing into the second tower was the one which Glen Miller 'disappeared' on?

Not a flying saucer?
call1n
1 Jun 2013  #15

But did you know that those bombs were put there by Elvis and that the plane which was filmed crashing into the second tower was the one which Glen Miller 'disappeared' on?

Actually I looked in databases of known dead people and most of the supposed people who died on those planes are not there... and building 7....

Okay Hulk Hogan...a guy in a cave pulled it off because the CIA and Americian news outlets said so... and wrestling is real!

I have learned from ancestors that when it comes to hypocracy idiocracy and lies... tackle the problem from its roots....
The root of the problem: You do not think!
The scientific method is a direct insult to the burial dead, and its roots are in the false cosmogony of the entire "big picture"....

Maybe you can defend some off-topic thing you brought up... but read the topic of the posting!
Can you actually defend that.... ?
No you can't!
The earth does not revolve around the sun and the entire disproof is in the zetetic cosmogony available on google books... now disprove at least 1 thing from there! you cannot...

This whole endevor of supposed scientific thought is a falsehood!
I don't have to defend criticism of 9/11, the holocaust or any of its findings!
Now go home "son of man" because you are nothing in comparison to God's word which is the cosmos itself!
p3undone
1 Jun 2013  #16

Jon 357,Yeah planes flew into them this is absolutely true,but more than 1600 engineers and Physicists have said that it is impossible for buildngs to fall at a free fall speed.Building 7 was never hit by a plane,and yet it to also fell at free fall speed.The owner of the World trade center complex said in an interview that we decided to pull building 7.Do you know how long it'd take to set up for a controlled demolition?and we're suppose to believe that a crew went in there and set it up in basically hours,and that they would go in there to do that,while we under attack?LOL,come on man.Add the fact that no buildings have ever fallen due to fire,and we had three of them in one day?Yeah ok.
jon357
1 Jun 2013  #17

In this case, it's best to ignore the conspiracies - that one would have been too big to pull off.
call1n
1 Jun 2013  #18

The real conspiracy is that modern man is blind... and cannot connect to the esoteric and the metaphysics to verify knowledge and has to verify knowledge through a "scientific community" and accept things based not on evaluating them but based on their "credibility" which basically means are they going along with what other people are saying...

But as I said before... the earth does not revolve around the sun!
The planets are not physical bodies, they are spiritual bodies as well!
The disproof of the earth revolving around the sun... you cannot counter!
Light does not travel in a straight path... and that is just the beginning!
There are two block holes covering the north and south pole, and NASA covers them up with "snow"
jon357
1 Jun 2013  #19

There are two block holes covering the north and south pole, and NASA covers them up with "snow"

WTF?

The real conspiracy is that modern man is blind... and cannot connect to the esoteric and the metaphysics to verify knowledge

Check out the concept of discernment. And figure out how to use it.
call1n
1 Jun 2013  #20

I will figure out how to use "it" once you go over the disproof of the Copernicus Cosmogony and tell me how it is wrong!



Ironside
1 Jun 2013  #21

So did Bin Laden, Torquemada

Why don't you put Elvis and flaying sources to that equation. You would make as much sense as in that sentence.
jon357
1 Jun 2013  #22

I will figure out how to use "it" once you go over the disproof of the Copernicus Cosmogony and tell me how it is wrong!

Since you're claiming something that is not generally (or at all) excepted, the burden of proof is on you.

Elvis and flaying sources

I'm not sure what you mean by 'flaying sources' but as far as I know Elvis was never involved in religious repression. Unless you know differently.
Ironside
1 Jun 2013  #23

I'm not sure what you mean by 'flaying sources'

Nothing that exist like connection between Bin Laden and Torquemada.

I know Elvis was never involved in religious repression

Have you been talking to him recently?
call1n
1 Jun 2013  #24

Since you're claiming something that is not generally (or at all) excepted, the burden of proof is on you.

Actually this is my topic... and I have submitted 2 burden of proofs
1. That light does not travel in a straight path..
and
2. That the book the zetetic cosmogeny goes through 20 proofs, if you would just glance at it for 2 seconds on google books... find one of them that you think is flawed (which none of them are) and post!

So the burden of proof is on you... stop trying to change the subject because you cannot proove the terrible flawed but wrongfully accepted Copernicus!

And modern scientific thought is based on those terrible flawed assumptions... you just cannot come clean to defend it because if it is not true... YOU ARE NOT TRUE!!!!!

AND YOU ARE A FEARFUL PERSON FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE FALLACY OF MODERN THOUGHT AND THE ANCIENTS ARE 1000 PERCENT CORRECT AND MODERN SCIENCE IS A PRIESTHOOD OF FALSEHOOD BASED ON "CREDENTIALS" WHICH IS A WOLF PACK LOYALTY SYSTEM NOT BASED ON INTELLECTUAL TRUTH!

ADMIT IT, YOU INCREDIBLE FEARFUL PERSON!
jon357
2 Jun 2013  #25

the terrible flawed but wrongfully accepted Copernicus!

Mad as a box of frogs.
call1n
3 Jun 2013  #26

You bet I am mad. Your "scientific" thought, is both unscientific and an insult to the way the ancestors thought, and an insult to the burial dead. I don't need your parochial education. Long live Thor and Odin. May you get struck down by a blast of lightning!

The earth does not revolve around the sun and you have not given me one shred of evidence otherwise!
Barney
3 Jun 2013  #27

Your "scientific" thought, is both unscientific and an insult to the way the ancestors thought, and an insult to the burial dead.

How do you know the way the ancestors thought?
call1n
3 Jun 2013  #28

This is apart of folklore and mythology... which to this day is thought of as unscientific stories for children....

But the earth does not revolve around the sun!
The real childlike mythology is the story that the planets revolve around the sun!

If we brought to the light that these mythologies were not children stories... including communication with non-human beings with superior might and intellect... that these primitive societies were not so primitive... after all....

This is all public record... but modern history and modern thought just does not recognize these acounts as factual....
pam
3 Jun 2013  #29

If you want a complete "proof" if you will read Zetetic Cosmogony.

Isn't this another name for The Flat Earth Society?
call1n
4 Jun 2013  #30

Yes, sadly it is Christianity outlawed the paganism in the first place... and yes they are the ones who speak the truth about the flat earth...which correctly corresponds to pre-christian ideas about the cosmos!

Ironic inst it?

Go through it, and find one thing in there that has been disproven with modern day satelites and the supposed landing on the moon which is a hoax!

Tell me one thing in there that is wrong. Here is the link: archive.org/details/zeteticcosmogon00recgoog
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