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GOOD NEWS: Trump defunds Obama's pro-abortion legislation


TheOther
18 Apr 2017  #31

Who is responsible for not rooting out those criminal phenomena? The family, school, religion, government? Who is not doing their educational task?

How can you educate a serial rapist or a sicko that has a sexual relationship with his young daughter? How can you avoid pregnancies (and abortions) if some religions still preach that contraception is a sin and that people should have as many kids as possible? The abortion rates have been going down for decades, so something must have been done right. Main factor was the availibility of long-term contraceptives - something that a defunding of Planned Parenthood will likely put an end to. At least for the poorest of the poor, who traditionally had the most children.
Ironside
18 Apr 2017  #32

How can you educate a serial rapist or a sicko that has a sexual relationship with his young daughter?

What is has to do with killing kids? some people are sick or perverted or just a plain evil - hey I got an idea lets kill some kids that would makes things better, even the field somewhat. Listen to yourself dawg.
johnny reb
18 Apr 2017  #33

we will never find a common ground here.

That is because YOU won't admit that the baby starts growing at the POINT OF CONSEPTION.
How can anything grow without being alive ?
Answer that if you can.

The majority of American catholics want abortions to be legal.

I beg to differ with you but I am sure you have sources to back up your claim.

The evangelicals were the only ones who wanted to ban abortions.

I beg to differ with you on that too but again, I am sure you have credible sources to back that up.
So lets get back to the get go, irresponsible people who have no self control that it just feels so good that they just can't pull it out in time knowing birth control is not being used.

Now responsible people are expected to support the "accident" while their own children go without.
How possibly can you blame an unborn child to the point you want to murder it to make the "problem" go away ?
Oh, we are back to being irresponsible again aren't we.
Well President Trump defunds for a wake up call to the irresponsible millenial's that refuse to be accountable for their actions.
I have waited a long time to watch you people have your melt down.
Oh, there are provisions for rape, incest and if a mothers life is in question,
johnny reb
18 Apr 2017  #34

the poorest of the poor, who traditionally had the most children.

That is because the more children they have the more welfare benefits they get Skippy.
Free food, free health care, free housing, free cell phones, $3500 tax credit for each child to be spent on cable t.v., cigarettes, booze, vacations, cars, free free free.

Those children are intentional with no plans of having an abortion.
You bleeding heart liberals are pathetic with the b.s. you come up with.
President Trump just ignores the b.s. and keeps right on moving ahead to Make America Great Again.
TheOther
18 Apr 2017  #35

I am sure you have sources to back up your claim

I gave you one. Show me a source that contradicts the one I provided, then we'll talk again.

Now responsible people are expected to support the "accident"

I bet you were really, really "responsible" when you were 16 and horny as hell. Remember: there are more ways than one to get your girlfriend pregnant. LOL!

there are provisions for rape, incest and if a mothers life is in question

So in those cases, the conglomerate of cells (or embryo when it's a little older) is not sacred? You contradict yourself. Tell me, what do you have an issue with exactly? Abortion in general, or only abortions of people that weren't "responsible" as you say?

Those children are intentional with no plans of having an abortion.

Facepalm!
johnny reb
18 Apr 2017  #36

I must have missed your claimed source, which #post was it in ?
I don't need to defend anything because you are the one that made such a ridiculous claim.

I bet you were really, really "responsible" when you were 16

Matter of fact I was plus I knew how to have self control.
Guess it is all on how you were brought up.
Did your parents ever take you to church and teach you morals and respect for girls when you were 16 ?

You contradict yourself.

Not at all, I simply replied about how you were using rape and incest as a crutch.

Those children are intentional with no plans of having an abortion.

Those children were intentionally planned by their parents who didn't plan to have an abortion to kill them.
Is that more better for ya.
Lyzko
19 Apr 2017  #37

In most "civilized" countries, among them France, abortions are legal, and have been now for quite a while:-)

Why punish women, wayward or otherwise, because of mistakes, often beyond their control??
Ironside
20 Apr 2017  #38

In most "civilized

That's is so called civilization of a dead man walking - doomed to fail in long run.
Lyzko
20 Apr 2017  #39

Ergo France, the Netherlands, and Scandinavia are uncivilized because they're dead men walking??! You sound like Archie BunkerLOL
Dude, you're gonna have to do better than that:-)
Polonius3
20 Apr 2017  #40

mistakes, often beyond their control??

Some things are beyond one's control like a tsunami, earthquake or gas explosion, but who is teaching girls and young women what type of guys to avoid like the plague? The family, the school, clergy, the news and entertainment media, the authorities? In many cases women are to blame for their poor choices as are those social entities that have failed to educate them.
Lyzko
20 Apr 2017  #41

And so you have to penalize someone for being human??! That's the same argument, the same sort of primitive thinking which approved wholeheartedly the death penalty instead of life of penance or imprisonment for the taking of a human life!! Are all situations legally identical?? Ever heard of mitigating circumstances??

To err is human, to forgive divine. Only G_d decides who shall live and who shall die, NOT a state, government or local standard!!

You people have some hotline to the Allmighty of which the rest of us mere morals aren't aware??!
Ironside
20 Apr 2017  #42

Ergo France, the Netherlands, and Scandinavia are uncivilized because they're dead men walking

No, because they're in the gip of suicidal madness.
Polonius3
21 Apr 2017  #43

educate a serial rapist

What ever happened to Tricky Don's chemical castration of rapists? As usual in the POO stable, lots of publicity, hoopla and brouhaha and then it all gets forgotten. Voters are fools who will soon forget -- is typical POO thinking.
johnny reb
21 Apr 2017  #44

Why punish women, wayward or otherwise, because of mistakes, often beyond their control??

This is a typical Bleeding Heart Liberal statement at it's best. (It's always someone else's fault, don't hold me accountable)
Firstly the only one that has punished the woman is the woman herself for being irresponsible. PERIOD !
Consequences go along with mistakes as bad as you think accountability is a bad word.
Beyond her control you say ? LOL
So it was beyond her control to take her pants off, it was beyond her control to practice safe sex, it was beyond her control to use birth control, it was beyond her control to say NO, it was beyond her control to have some self discipline ?

So in short, she punished herself for not being responsible and now you don't think she should be held accountable for her irresponsibility.
Wake up Dude.
In most "civilized" countries, among them France, abortions are legal.
Oh,oh that makes it o.k. because Socialist France does it as we are watching France slowly crumble.
I noticed that you have not moved there yet.

Only G_d decides who shall live and who shall die, NOT a state, government or local standard!!

Then tell me Wizzard, how can your Pro Abortion baby killers be justified if you believe that ????? LOL

You people have some hotline to the Allmighty of which the rest of us mere morals aren't aware??!

(I am sure you meant "mortals" and not morals)
So glad you asked, Yes, yes we do, it's called prayer, prayer is our hotline to the Almighty.
Ever thought of giving Him a call on that hotline to see what He could maybe do for your lost soul that thinks no one should have to be responsible or accountable when they make a bad choice intentionally ?

And while you have Him on that hotline ask Him how you can justify killing babies for convenience so you don't have to be held accountable for your irresponsibility.

Punish the woman....no Dude.......punish the baby by giving it the death penalty.
Harry
21 Apr 2017  #45

Firstly the only one that has punished the woman is the woman herself for being irresponsible.

Yes, rape victims are the postergirls for irresponsibility, aren't they.
johnny reb
21 Apr 2017  #46

No need to be so snidey Harold.
Those exception have already been disgust.
You must have missed those posts.
Harry
21 Apr 2017  #47

Those exception

The problem is that once you make an exception for rape victims, you suddenly give a lot of reason to make false allegations of rape.

disgust

The disgusting thing is men telling women what they must and must not do with their bodies.
Lyzko
21 Apr 2017  #48

Johnny, in the end, tragically, you end up by punishing both:-)

Put yourself in the woman's place, why don't you! Would YOU like to be punished for an act which you committed out of ignorance??!

See you don't believe in the powers of earthly redemption as a way of preparing for the next life.
johnny reb
21 Apr 2017  #49

men telling women what they must and must not do with their bodies.@ Harry

No, telling women what they must NOT DO with the babies body.

in the end, tragically, you end up by punishing both

Yes, it is called "consequences" for being irresponsible.
You can't quite grasp that as a Liberal can you.

Would YOU like to be punished for an act which you committed out of ignorance

Ignorance is no excuse when it comes to the law in America, you know that Lyzko.
How many girls do you think get pregnant because they were ignorant how things like this happen.
It sure isn't caused because of the drinking water.
You will never agree with me and I will never agree with you so best we let other members post their opinions on this subject and keep our traps shut for a few days on this thread.

What sha say guys, give someone else a turn here for a change ?
delphiandomine
21 Apr 2017  #50

The disgusting thing is men telling women what they must and must not do with their bodies.

It's all about control, nothing more. They claim to be "anti-abortion, pro-life", but they rarely do a thing to help children. When they do help children, it's usually to take advantage of tax deductions and good PR, nothing more.
Ironside
21 Apr 2017  #51

but they rarely do a thing to help children.

Speaking from personal experience?

problem is that once you make an exception for rape victims

You don't give a rat ass about rape victims, you only care to force on people your evil commie ideology and make them kill for out of a convince.

There should be no exceptions.
johnny reb
21 Apr 2017  #52

but they rarely do a thing to help children.

When was the last time you took your kid to church where they teach morals ?

It's all about control, nothing more.

It's all about what society says about murdering innocent children.
You for some reason refuse to accept that FACT and think convenience killing is o.k.
Irresponsible people have got to learn that there are consequences when they make bad choices.
These are the same people that never got spanked as children when they made a bad choice so now as adults still don't think they should be held accountable and scream "Don't try to control me."

You need about four years in the military to learn about accountability delph.
delphiandomine
21 Apr 2017  #53

There should be no exceptions.

Easy for you to say, isn't it? You'll never have to live with the consequences, so it's easy to sit on your high chair and preach from above.
Lyzko
21 Apr 2017  #54

Punishing people for not being "perfect", Johnny???

Harsh and unthinking retribution's never the way of redressing wrongs, it only makes the wrong doer that much more willing to commit wrong and wronger out of spite:-)

I hope and pray, you're not a parent. I am, and I'd NEVER hit my son unless I needed to warn him not to harm either himself or others.

That's called being a responsible human!!
Ironside
21 Apr 2017  #55

Easy for you to say

Its not about easy or hard, say or mute, it is about right and wrong and two wrongs doesn't make it right.
Lyzko
21 Apr 2017  #56

And you dare impose YOUR morality upon the rest of humanity??! You people are as bad as the very enemy you hate!
Harry
21 Apr 2017  #57

No, telling women what they must NOT DO with the babies body.

You're telling a woman that she must allow what you claim is another human to suck her blood 24/7 for nine months. Please go and let another human suck your blood for nine months and then come try to lecture us.
Lyzko
21 Apr 2017  #58

Precisely, Harry! Who is Johnny The Great and Mighty to tell a woman what to do with her body or when and how she should do it??

As the old Native American wisdom goes, "Don't tell a man how to walk until you've walked a mile in his mocassins."
Ironside
21 Apr 2017  #59

You people are as bad as the very enemy you hate!

No, WE don't say that killing an innocent life is a good thing and just a matter of convenience. You DO! So chill dawg.
Lyzko
21 Apr 2017  #60

So then if you're not saying whatever it is I can make out that you posted, what are you saying? If you need someone to translate your thoughts from Polish into comprehensible English, for Pete's sake man just bloody say so!!:-) I'd jump at the chance, but then I'd be jumping so much, my legs might get tired.

LOL

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