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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 18



Novichok
3 Jan 2025  #151

Ukrainians continue to outsmart the stupid Russians,

It's the smart Russians that Ukraine has problems with.

Still... U is winning as evidenced by these numbers:

50% of the U population - gone

20% of U land - gone

90% of U wealth - gone

600,000 U - dead

1 million U - disabled

In November, AP reported that 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers were officially charged with desertion. However, the actual numbers could be twice as high, according to estimates.

I wonder what those numbers would be if U was losing...I am scared to even think about it...

pawian
3 Jan 2025  #152

..I am scared to even think about it...

Darling, you`d better be scared of taking too much time to change your diaper sitting in front of the monitor all day. hahahaha
Imperial Russians haven`t been able to conquer Ukraine for nearly 3 years. How will you comment on it?

Novichok
4 Jan 2025  #153

50% of the U population - gone

20% of U land - gone

90% of U wealth - gone

600,000 U - dead

1 million U - disabled

pawian
4 Jan 2025  #154

gone

Darling, how many diapers are gone per week in your case???

Just curious. :):):)

Bobko
4 Jan 2025  #155

50% of the U population - gone

20% of U land - gone

90% of U wealth - gone

Ooof, that's a rough way to put it.

The price of being a "European" vs being an "Orc".

The price of "feeeeeelings" vs using your brain.

Absolutely nothing pleasant in this picture, for me. Not even the pleasure of being right.

pawian
4 Jan 2025  #156

Absolutely nothing pleasant in this picture

Absolutely, my imperial Russian. :):):)
Similar impression did Poles/Polesses have when they lost their Risings against Russians.
Can you guess how it all ended for us and you ??? :):):)

The same prospect is due for Ukraine. HA!!!
Simply speaking, you can kiss goodbye to reviving your old Soviet Union Russia.

As a barbarian, you have no idea about human philosophy. Who said - No man ever steps in the same river twice... and how does it apply to you, imperial Russians???

Bobko
4 Jan 2025  #157

Can you guess how it all ended for us and you?

Nothing very bad happened to you, except you were separated from Western penis for two centuries.

Also, nothing very bad happened to Ukraine.

In fact - the worst things happened to Ukraine and Poland when they were outside Russian control :)

Tacitus
4 Jan 2025  #158

@Bobko

Why are China and the US trying to suffocate each other by cutting off rare earths?

Because they actually use them to create stuff. They dont compete for rare minerals in order to sell them, but to use them for the production of highly sophisticated electronics. While Russia is little more than a big gas station.

The military industry will be domestically focused

Precisely. As is most of its' industry because Russia is no longer able to produce products that are competetive at the world market.

They have been given more money, than they saw between

Indeed. Russia is burning up everything it was and could have been in order to keep the war going. Its' stockpiles from the Soviet Union. More and more of its budget. Money that should have gone into its' infrastructure or scientific development. All gone. Putin is currently throwing the lifes of thousands of Russians away per week just to capture a few more square kilometers. He depopulates a Russian village to capture a destroyed Ukrainian village.

I dont't think you understand how bad this actually is for Russia development? The Russian Army does not pay for the products they buy. The Russian state does. Which gets its' money from the Russian people. Producing a rocket, then selling it to Russian army who fires it at an Ukrainian hospital is not going to make Russia wealthier. All Putin is doing is subsidizing the arms industry at the expense of the Russian population.

How's that for reputation?

Nobody is ever truly prepared for war. That being said, at least we know now that our weapons can intercept Russian missiles, while Russian systems are unable to intercept Himars and our tanks are less likely to launch our crews into orbit. We can work with that.

Novichok
4 Jan 2025  #159

Absolutely nothing pleasant in this picture, for me

I just listed the cost of Z listening to that British wh*re, Blow Job, in 2022 and the message he brought from that senile warmongering moron aka Biden..

All of the above was preventable if Z gave BJ the middle finger, called Putin, and said: You wanna meet?

In the meantime, Mariupol is coming back to life.

Bobko
4 Jan 2025  #160

dont't think you understand how bad this actually is for Russia development?

I do understand how bad it is for Russia's development, and I blame you and the collective West for it - not Ukraine.

Even people in Ukraine are beginning to think you lot are some especial sadists. You won't let them lose, but you won't let them win either - instead continuing the meat grinder indefinitely because it has no practical effect on you.

In the end both Ukrainians and Russians will blame you. Mark my words.

The minute this war is over, the Ukrainians will go after each other - first. Once they are thoroughly and completely a mess at home, they'll start going after you.

What's the point of going after Russia? It's an overt aggressor and enemy. The only way to go after Russia is to renew the war, for which they will lack the stomach.

I promise you - the first 1-2 years, they will be eating each other. Then you will see the rest of this beautiful opera.

pawian
4 Jan 2025  #161

Ukrainians will go

While Russian won`t??? ):):)

You wanna meet?

No, I wouldn`t like to meet you even if you offered me 1 million. Ha!!!

Novichok
4 Jan 2025  #162

he relishes on Ukraine`s losses.

Bobko, debating Polaks is impossible because these morons find feelings in everything

Even when I post dispassionate, objectively true numbers, as I did in 153...I relish...not report...Relish...

I hate these mother fvckers and that's why I left.

To these azholes, everything is 100% emotion...When a guy got a bullet during the Warsaw Uprising because stepped outside to take a leak, he died za ojczyzne as a hero,of course...

pawian
4 Jan 2025  #163

that's why I left.

No, darling, you left communist Poland in 1960s coz you were able to buy only one posh shirt with your monthly salary while you dreamt of possessing two!!!!! Ha!!!

during the Warsaw Uprising

hahaha Yes, I wondered when you would insert it. :):):

Darling, it doesn`t work on us any more. :):):) Invent sth new.

Novichok
4 Jan 2025  #164

No, darling, you left communist Poland

Where the fvck did I say that I meant Poland, moron...

That's another reason why Polaks are azholes...You fill in your own shlt to fit your Polak narrative...

pawian
4 Jan 2025  #165

Where the fvck did I say that I meant Poland,

So what or where did you leave in your post No 162?????? :):):)
Stop wriggling out, it is too late. )):)

Bobko
4 Jan 2025  #166

The way in which the Ukrainians will go after each other... just to explain:

1) First the divisions will be between those who actively participated - whether on the front, in the rear, or through volunteering - and those that "sat it out".

2) The second layer of division will be between those who remained in Ukraine, and those that spent the last three years in total safety in the West.

3) The third will be between the ever diminishing group of Zelensky supporters, and the supporters of the former President Poroshenko. These are already actively blaming each other for the current state of affairs.

pawian
4 Jan 2025  #167

the Ukrainians will go after each other

Bs. We don`t believe one word by you, imperial Russian.
But, even if they do, it is going to happen in independent Ukraine. Ha!!!!
Check contemporary Poland. We are divided into patriotic Poles/Polesses vs rightists/nationalists/homo sovieticuses. Yet, what matters the most, the division takes place in an independent country. :):):)

Novichok
4 Jan 2025  #168

In an interview with Novyni Live on Monday, Vladimir Shylov, former commander of the 3rd Company in the 134th Separate Territorial Defense Battalion, lashed out at Ukraine's political leadership, stating that the country has "ceased to exist" as a functional state due to widespread graft and mismanagement.

No comment from me is necessary.

Velund
4 Jan 2025  #169

Referendum in Kosovo - good

Rich. I'm really curious about which Kosovo referendum you are talking about? ;)

Novichok
4 Jan 2025  #170

1991 Kosovan independence referendum.

Was there another one?

PolAmKrakow
4 Jan 2025  #171

If is quite shocking to see intelligent arguments presented and then emotional responses that have really not changed much in three years be the response.

Russia, like the US during WW2 and after, will be absolutely fine. Sanctions or no sanctions, they are and can continue to be self sufficient. The US after WW2 was booming, arguably the greatest time in American history for wealth accumulation, population growth, and home building. Russia can and is doing something similar. Ukraine will also be a booming economy for a while during the rebuild, but mainly for companies who already hold the contracts. Those being in the US for the most part.

Strange how Z is now publicly saying Trump can stop Putin, when not long ago he was saying different. Z's political career is about to come to an end with the war. Just how much money from the US has been stolen? What happens to all the weapons in Ukraine that are unaccounted for? The question is not whether the war will end this year, but when and how? Ukraine is not getting back the land it has lost, ane neither country is getting back the men who have died.

Bobko's post #166 is probably a pretty accurate description of post war Ukraine. Meanwhile, the US is shipping all the LNG it possibly can to Europe. Mission accomplished.

Alien
4 Jan 2025  #172

Russia, like the US during WW2 and after, will be absolutely fine

It's interesting that you compare Russia to the US after WWII. Maybe you should compare it to Austria-Hungary after WWI.

Crow
4 Jan 2025  #173

Impossible. Serbians support Russia and they didn`t support the AH.

mafketis
4 Jan 2025  #174

Guess who invented and benefited tremendously from implementing military Keynesianism? That's right - Americans.

So... russia is imitating the US.... again, in a vain effort to gain US acceptance and recognition.... again.... a cycle of failure.

many millions of Russians have fulfilled their dream of home ownership.

Like this lady! Following her dreams!

What woman wants or needs a live son when the roof needs repair?

x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1782708697715601901

Crow
4 Jan 2025  #175

Let us listen and be proud of being Slavic

"Everything will be fine..." Russian President Vladimir Putin's message on New Year



cms neuf
4 Jan 2025  #176

We are writing the textbook right now, for how wars will be fought in the 21st century. All your military people must study our lessons very closely, if they have any hopes of competing.

Yes I can imagine the rest of the world is taking notes on North Nigerian military excellence. The assault on the airport, with no ammo, no GPS and no fuel will be talked of in awestruck tones in military academies.

Not to mention the 6 month offensive using golf cars and tanks dragged out of museums, on a small market town that cost about 50.000 casualties and has still not been completed

There should also be a few chapters dedicated to the poor starving frozen Norks, with their faces being burned off by their supposed allies so they can't be identified

Tacitus
4 Jan 2025  #177

Perhaps Bobko could tell us 5 things which he believes the Russian army has done well during this war and which could be used as an example and replicated by others under normal circumstances.

I'd be inclined to name the use of glide bombs which has been quite effective and innovative. However those glide bombs have only been effective because Ukraine has a very small air force, few modern anti-aircraft systems and was not allowed to attack the airports from whom those attacks are done. There has been a noticeable decrease in those attacks ever since those artificial restrictions have been lifted.

Velund
4 Jan 2025  #178

1991 Kosovan independence referendum.

That was held by illegitimate underground "assembly" and totally boycotted by serbian part of society? If this is ok, wait the same in Latvia, Estonia and twice in Lithuania (ru and pl versions) ;) Peacekeepers will be there in a few hours. ;)

Z's political career is about to come to an end with the war.

His political career is already over. And his dictator career will end together with his physical existence.

cms neuf
4 Jan 2025  #179

One genuine innovation has been for NNs to use cheap drones to pick off and murder individual civilians in Kherson, a town they claim is part of North Nigeria. I am sure it is terrifying and effective,

As well as making it into the military textbooks, this can be discussed in more detail at the Hague.

johnny reb
4 Jan 2025  #180

Ukraine announced it would not renew a contract with Russia to transport Moscow's gas to European markets via Ukraine's older Soviet-era pipelines.
As a result, gas transit via those pipelines stopped on January 1st, 2025.
Another financial punch in the gut to Putin.


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