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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20



Ironside
9 Mar 2025  #271

Russia doesn`t need any respite. EU needs.

Dude stop annoying me with your endless pro-Russian propaganda. Go and eat your Sunday roast cat. F Balkan people.
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Putin will honour any cease-fire or peace deal?

I'm sure he won't.
Russia honors agreements as long as it suits them. Isn't that obvious?
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They will keep fighting.

How do you make the US support the Ukrainian war, or participate in it?
The EU countries like France and Germany are only talking crap, they are already in kahoots with Russia at least economically.
I'm not surprised that business-minded Trump is annoyed by those countries,
The U.S. is expected to fork out help for free while behind it back France and Germany are buying ores from Russia, funding Russia in a war against Ukraine and indirectly the US ( not to mention Poland)
Poland, we have done our part supporting Ukraine.
The US doesn't want to support this war either, enough is enough, the deal is good because the US will be protecting US businesses, it's better than nothing.
Poland needs to watch out for Tusk and Germany and France who want to push Poland into this war by making us send soldiers to Ukraine.
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the more time they buy

What will it help us? This time with politicians who are a waste is going to be wasted as it is now by the Tusk government.
Those people who have been 30 years in politics need to go.
With them, Ukraine can have a hundred years of war and it will still not be enough.
Instead of wishful thinking and trying to morally kidnap other countries to make them do what you want them to do, let's get sorted out our country.

Torq
9 Mar 2025  #272

See why time is needed?

Indeed. You're a smart guy, Crow. Too bad you support the wrong Slavic magnates, who are leading nasha dobra majka Slavija to her downfall.

May Svetovid and Christ enlighten you, so that we all stand together one day and observe the Great Dawn of Slavia illuminating the world with its light. Amen.

pro-Russian propaganda

Crow is a good Slav, and our brother, but he is betting on the wrong horse.

Germany and France who want to push Poland into this war by making us send soldiers to Ukraine

True. This definitely best avoided.

let's get sorted out our country

With this I agree wholeheartedly. Poland must be strong, without looking at others for help.

Ironside
9 Mar 2025  #273

he is betting on the wrong horse.

I'm sure he is betting on the right cat. He is that smart.
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mafketis
9 Mar 2025  #274

Crow is a good Slav, and our brother,

He's an evil jerk whose biggest dream is Poland and russia combining forces to commit genocide against Albanians.

Dont' sweep for evil.

Vesko Vukovic
9 Mar 2025  #275

seen many suicides by soldiers on the front

Zaporozhye direction: Ukrainian soldiers decide to leave the earth on their own terms

bitchute.com/video/RUOBKqIklzF1

Boxm@g
So weird how they body keeps trying to survive even after the brain is dead... Those compulsions are nasty to look at

Archived AFU losses from Kurakhove 1-6-25

bitchute.com/video/jv4Xky7cpp50

Vesko Vukovic
9 Mar 2025  #276



Putin: 'NATO countries should be fully aware of what they are playing with'

Vesko Vukovic
9 Mar 2025  #277

How did the head come off like that?

bitchute.com/video/h2p7lkaJZuDI

Another lost Ukrainian soldier meets his end

bitchute.com/video/DXjExoRW8pM1

Malaya Loknaya, Kursk: just another meat wave from Zelensky

bitchute.com/video/GgCVP5PsfC0V

Well, it "seemed" like a good place to hide....

bitchute.com/video/XD1PhDA3QsTg

Vesko Vukovic
9 Mar 2025  #278

Prisoner from the 66th brigade, taken prisoner in the Kharkov region, is truly a specimen

bitchute.com/video/GPZBoq5lMJdH

Happy Women's Day from captured AFU female

bitchute.com/video/Ud25EfZ0uEiu

Ukrainian woman has a message

bitchute.com/video/mJLVtZDgG5Ue

Lenka
9 Mar 2025  #279

Musk was threatening Ukraine with turning off Starlink. Sikorski reminded him it's paid for (by Poland) and apart from being unethical it also poses a question about the reliability of a service.

x.com/sikorskiradek/status/1898700362460070080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1898700362460070080%7Ctwgr%5E6961e1f84e97ebae948856bfcca64ed4193cad70%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpulsembed.eu%2Fp2em%2F_Pw7uY0pU%2F

pawian
9 Mar 2025  #280

"Starlinks for Ukraine are paid for by the Polish Ministry of Digital Affairs," he noted, adding that the Polish ministry allocates $50 million annually for this purpose. "Leaving aside the morality of threatening the victim of aggression, if SpaceX turns out to be an unreliable supplier, we will be forced to look for others," Sikorski wrote.

He forgot to mention demanding compensation for the broken service.
My private commentary: Those Golden Cow trumpists are slowly turning into golden swine.

PolAmKrakow
9 Mar 2025  #281

@pawian
And you just $hit the bed. The war did not start until after Biden took office. The American people did not vote him in to support Ukraine because the support wasnt even needed at the time. Get your timeline straight. The American people voted Biden in because Trump was too strong. Then they voted Biden out when he was not only too weak but had dementia.

@Torq
Money and weapons dictate the peace talks and the US has both. Ukraine will do what it is told, or they will disappear. Russia will make a deal or their economy could actually collapse.

@cms neuf
There is no one in US business other than car makers that are afraid of any trade war. Canada put tariffs on US goods when the Canadian dollar is worth about a fart, and is squeezing its own people. Their PM was crying publicly the other day when being told to stfu by Trump and wont even be in charge of the country in a few days.

Novichok
9 Mar 2025  #282

The war did not start until after Biden took office.

...and sent that British wh*re BJ to Z to tell Z not to even think about signing any peace agreement with Russia because it would be bad for MICC and NATO expansion plans.

Russia didn't cause this war. We did.

Yes, in 1990, we promised not to spread NATO cancer in exchange for Germany reunification and the stupid Soviets trusted Western liars. How fvcking stupid.

I hope Putin remembers this moment and will continue on no matter what Trump says.

mafketis
9 Mar 2025  #283

The war did not start until after Biden took office

russia invaded Ukraine in 2014... 2022 just represented an escalation. Obama did as close to nothing as could be imagined, Trump didn't do much more (beyond selling Ukraine weapons).
Biden had a conflict of interest. He was in no hurry to see the war end and have Ukraine investigate his failson's connections to pro-Kremlin Burisma... and he had a russian poodle (JS) sabotaging any effort to actually get tough with russia.

Russia will make a deal

I'll believe that when it happens... and then we start the countdown to russia breaking the deal and Trump being caught with his thumb up his zhopa.

Novichok
9 Mar 2025  #284

russia invaded Ukraine in 2014...

The US invaded Iraq.

Now what?

russia breaking the deal

Russia can break any deal it doesn't like. Just as the US broke the deal not to expand NATO.

pawian
9 Mar 2025  #285

Russia can break any deal it doesn't like.

Exactly! And decent countries aka almost all Europe can put retaliatory sanctions on Russia. And we are doing it. Ha!!!!! Amasing!
And we can keep the sanctions for decades. We shall survive while Russia turns into North Nigeria. The prospect of making it a civilised country will be delayed for centuries. hahahaha

PolAmKrakow
9 Mar 2025  #286

@mafketis
When the US has a strong president, Trump, Bush and others, Russia has always played ball. With weak presidents, Biden and Obama, Russia takes advantage of weakness.

@pawian
Do you even read what you write? Seriously. Russians are vacationing in Turkey and Cypress just like before. They are coming to Europe by way of Turkey, still shopping and doing what ever they want. If you think that Europe sanctioning Russia without US sanctions is going to hurt Russia you really have your eyes closed. Russian Visa's are being processed every day, so all the hurt Russia talk makes no sense.

Russia can break any deal it doesn't like. Just as the US broke the deal not to expand NATO.

But lets just ignore that little historical fact and lets wait for the "if" Russia breaks the next deal.

cms neuf
9 Mar 2025  #287

He's not a strong president - he is weak minded, indecisive and unable to think problems through

North Nigeria is not playing ball - they have not made a single concession.

Can't be bothered to answer your dumb points about Canada - suffice to say you are wrong about everything, starting with the fact that the Canadian dollar hasn't moved.

Torq
9 Mar 2025  #288

the US broke the deal not to expand NATO

Really? Show me the "deal" - any official document that says NATO agreed not to expand.

lets just ignore that little historical fact

What historical fact? What are you talking about?

Przelotnyptak1
9 Mar 2025  #289

In a few more decades, they will be exactly like you, swine without a golden shine, just regular swine, but for mow nothing but golden.

Przelotnyptak1
9 Mar 2025  #290

He's not a strong president - he is weak minded, indecisive and unable to think problems through

Unlike you, I will call you the Rock of Gibraltar.

pawian
9 Mar 2025  #291

Seriously. Russians are vacationing i

Amassing you are talking about Russian tourists while I am about industry, business, banking and economy in general. Are you for serious??? You know very well that sanctions are working fine so why are you manipulating like a rightist all the time???

mafketis
9 Mar 2025  #292

ussia takes advantage of weakness

I fail to see _any_ toughness vis a vis russia in Trump II...

PolAmKrakow
9 Mar 2025  #293

@cms neuf
Ok fvcktard, I have an office in Canada, and the Candian dollar is garbage. The Canadian dollar is down more than 20% on the USD since Biden took office. You are the one who has not only been wrong about everything but will be proven wrong about whats to come. Dislike the US all you want but dont ask them to protect you any more. You are the perfect example of why the US should say fvck the EU.

@pawian
Sanctions havent done anything with the Russian shadow oil fleet selling billions every month and the EU buying refined oil and gas from India that came from Russia. Russia is a gas station and always will be. The EU will never give up on low prices for Ukraine that isnt even a member of the EU.

pawian
9 Mar 2025  #294

Sanctions havent done anything
shadow oil fleet

Really??
First of all, tell us why Russians are using the shadow fleet. ):):)

Secondly, tell us how much profit do Russians lose each month due to being forced to exploit the shadow fleet compared to normal non sanctioned business????

Vesko Vukovic
9 Mar 2025  #295

AFU convoy annihilated as it tried to escape Kursk boiler

bitchute.com/video/yqb9M5XlEbKc

Novichok
9 Mar 2025  #296

Really? Show me the "deal" - any official document that says NATO agreed not to expand.

We have eyewitness testimony and the facts themselves.

Tell your dog that the USSR would leave East Germany knowing that Western warmongers would expand NATO all the way to the USSR's border and your dog will pizz on your carpet laughing.

For now, show me a deal where Russia swore to never, under any circumstances, regardless of what the US and NATO did, invade Ukraine.

Bobko
9 Mar 2025  #297

The greatest Russian victory in this war is not taking 20% of the territory of the former Ukrainian Socialist Soviet Republic. It is turning the USA into a Zambia with nuclear missiles in political terms.

We didn't do anything. Trump represents a return to a world view, which predominated throughout most of America's history.

America First existed before WW2 (it took Pearl Harbor), and before WW1 (Wilson invented the term "America First"). Prior to America First, there were the Know Nothings in the 1800s. They were also known as the Native American Party.

These parties are strongest following historic waves of immigration. Then they come to power, turn the screws, stop immigration to a dribble, and retract from the world.

Their kids grow up thinking their parents are fascists, and move things again in another direction. Liberalizing immigration, opening up to the world, and viewing the idea of American exceptionalism in an ironic light.

Then the pendulum swings back towards nativist and isolationist policies as a reaction to "woke".

It keeps going like this through generations. Russia could not have done this - this is beyond its capability.

But this mood swing in America is great for Russia regardless. It totally undermines all the liberals in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Georgia, etc. It reinforces the view of the conservatives with Putin at the top, that the liberals had fallen for a promise of candy from a non-existent benign West. It shows the conservatives were always right to argue the West was not to be trusted.

cms neuf
9 Mar 2025  #298

But it has not moved since Trump was elected. So the moves from 0.79 to 0.71 under Biden (that's 12 percent) reflect a strong US economy under Biden (who unlike Golden Cow didn't change his mind every day and consulted with experts).

I don't dislike the US. I am appalled at what is happening there though - like most Poles are.

Novichok
9 Mar 2025  #299

lets wait for the "if" Russia breaks the next deal.

Before we negotiate an end of a war, we always have two choices:

1. Stop and trust
2. Continue dying

If the enemy stops for a while and resumes, we are at Choise 2. No change other than there was a probability that the enemy would not resume.

Hence, Choice 1 is better than Choice 2. Duh!

My cat agrees...But not Russia-hating morons here. The always want to send others to the front and 15 minutes of bravery.

the West was not to be trusted.

Never!!!

See Merkel and her "we did it just to buy time to arm Ukraine".

Are Euros here stupid or evil or both?

mafketis
9 Mar 2025  #300

Sanctions havent done anything with the Russian shadow oil fleet

And Trump just vetoed a Canadian G7 proposal to address that?

Sooooo hard on russia... giving them everything they want.... that'll learn 'em!

x.com/KareemRifai/status/1898741755169681413


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