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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20



mafketis
20 Mar 2025  #931

russia attacks the Ukrainian city of Odesa with large numbers of drones....

no Nobel for Trump....

x.com/PulseOfUkraine/status/1902832562441163022

Why is he just taking being humiliated?

Crow
20 Mar 2025  #932

russia attacks the Ukrainian city of Odesa with large numbers of drones....

Russia liberates the old Russian city of Odesa with large numbers of drones

Joker
20 Mar 2025  #933

russia attacks the Ukrainian city of Odesa with large numbers of drones....

Are you saying Putan broke the agreement already? I havent heard a word about it on the news over here yet.

mafketis
20 Mar 2025  #934

I havent heard a word about it on the news over here yet.

It's on twitter. Also attacks against Kyiv.

x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1902828570751254578

x.com/KyivPost/status/1902833348088664134

Trump trusts putain and putain makes him look like an idiot and Trump just takes it.

Meanwhile he's busy burning through allies like Denmark and Canada and Poland (local attitudes toward his devotion to Trump are..... not positive).

Make it make sense....

Joker
20 Mar 2025  #935

Trump trusts putain and putain makes him look like an idiot and Trump just takes it.

Something like this should be bombarding the new media but nothing about it on CNN or FOX. Only thing they are talking about are the Dems in dismay and Elon 24/7.

The agreement:
The two leaders spoke about ending the war in Ukraine, and the Russian president agreed to a limited ceasefire on attacks against energy infrastructure targets but refused to sign a broader ceasefire agreement.

So Putan then attacks innocent people sleeping in their homes instead of an electrical station. This guy is pure evil. I hope, Trump puts his foot down.

Interesting there is nothing on the news here about it. Im joining X/twitter now.

Make it make sense....

The entire world is a ball of confusion

Vesko Vukovic
20 Mar 2025  #936

The Americans are mostly to blame for the war, ie Obama, Victoria Nuland, USAID, Soros and other satanists who organized and implemented the coup and unconditionally supported the coup's illegal government and everything they do even though it completely contradicts all the democratic standards and norms they swear by. Trump is pretending to be dumb and now Zelensky is to blame for everything.

Miloslaw
20 Mar 2025  #937

This guy is pure evil. I hope, Trump puts his foot down.

Agreed!

The Americans are mostly to blame for the war

What a total loser!!!

No intelligence and no comprehension.You are a complete and utter idiot!
Who invaded Ukraine for no reason?
Who won't sign even a ceasefire, let alone a truce?
Who continues to attack innocent civilians in Ukraine?
Who makes threats about nuclear war?
Who says that western nations cannot be members of a peacekeeping force in Ukraine.

The answer to all of the above is obvious to any sane human being...... Russia!

Novichok
20 Mar 2025  #938

The Americans are mostly to blame for the war, ie Obama,

This and the rest of your post...Perfect.

Przelotnyptak1
20 Mar 2025  #939

In Vesko's calculations, America is to blame for his constipation

Miloslaw
20 Mar 2025  #940

America is to blame for his constipation

HaHaHaHa!!!!! yeah, America is to blame for all of Vesko's embarrassing problems..... LOL!!!

Vesko Vukovic
20 Mar 2025  #941

The war did not start with Russian "aggression". The war began in 2014 when, after the coup, the army, fan hooligans and neo-nazis attacked peaceful protesters and burned them alive, so the other protesters started an armed resistance.

Miloslaw
20 Mar 2025  #942

The war did not start with Russian "aggression".

Who were the armed "Fan Hooligans" with tanks?
Who were the Neo Nazis?

The Russians......

other protesters started an armed resistance.

Who were they then?

Paulina
20 Mar 2025  #943

attacked peaceful protesters and burned them alive, so the other protesters started an armed resistance.

Ah, they must be loving the end result then - considering that RuSSia just attacked a residential building and a shopping mall in Odessa o_O 🤦This city is so much "safer" now! lol No innocent people dying or anything! *facepalm*

The Americans are mostly to blame for the war, ie Obama, Victoria Nuland, USAID, Soros and other satanists who organized and implemented the coup

You Putinists are so predictable that it's boring. Whenever there's something happening in any country that displeases RuSSia you claim that "the US did this" lol You have very small minds (and hearts).

So Putan then attacks innocent people sleeping in their homes instead of an electrical station. This guy is pure evil.

Yup.

Novichok
21 Mar 2025  #944

Russia does not want to win this war.

That's based on the lack of evidence it does.

amiga500
21 Mar 2025  #945

Is the palliative care unit aware you have access to the internet?

Crow
21 Mar 2025  #946

Are you saying Putan broke the agreement already?

What agreement?

cms neuf
21 Mar 2025  #947

The 30 day agreement Golden Cow made with him on Tuesday afternoon

edition.cnn.com/2025/03/18/politics/trump-putin-ceasefire-russia-ukraine-war/index.html

Broken on Tuesday evening by Putler

All Boris Johnson's fault

Crow
21 Mar 2025  #948

But you heard. Zelenski always complaints. And so ..

cms neuf
21 Mar 2025  #949

Right, it's Zelensky's fault that Putler broke the ceasefire

He should have worn a suit

Crow
21 Mar 2025  #950

What ceasefire?

amiga500
21 Mar 2025  #951

the ceasefire prohibiting attacks on green energy infrastructure.

PolAmKrakow
21 Mar 2025  #952

Hilarious that none of the Poles promoting Poland should have nukes addressed the fact that the US has ultimate control over every piece of high tech military equipment in Europe. All the US sucks and should be out of Europe could, and more likely will come back to bite Europe in the ass at some point in the future. The idea of Europe coordinating a joint military through the bull$hit European commission, where Ursula Vanderkunt is presiding, the absolute failure of the German defense minister, is going to sting down the road.

For details sake, the cease fire is not fully negotiated yet as it concerns the energy infrastructure. Nothing has been signed, and Ukraine just attacked another Russian oil refinery. If the EU keeps pushing, and Ukraine doesnt fall in line, you may get your wish and see the US out of the war completely. That would give Ukraine less than 60 days of survival time. In the mean time, everyone should be in their gardens digging missile silohs in preparation for those nukes to arrive.

Crow
21 Mar 2025  #953

@PolAmKrakow

Good points.

cms neuf
21 Mar 2025  #954

Still, no harm in trying to be self sufficient - isn't that what Golden Cow and Vance told us to do. Of course it's not going to be straightforward at first, but we will learn, just like we did with the single market.

I don't know how the US has "ultimate control" over our weapons - complete BS and even if true we will just build or buy new ones.

For months you have been saying Europe needs to look after itself, and now you are upset. Don't You Want Me Baby ?

mafketis
21 Mar 2025  #955

@PolAmKrakow
Good points.

If that doesn't concern you....

PolAmKrakow
21 Mar 2025  #956

@cms neuf
No one can take you seriously when all you do is call people names. Yes, Europe needs to be self sufficient. It is not going to happen in a year or two. This is at least a ten year project. Until then the EU will rely on the US. Europe cant even re-arm itself with conventional weapons when they are sending weapons to Ukraine. Not enough factories and not enough designs of their own weapons systems.

The US has complete control of all high tech weapons that use satellite or other US designed guidance systems. Note that no HMRS were able to be used in Ukraine once intelligence was cut off. The same would be true around the world with every US system. Would the US allow for the Taliban to be able to use any of the high tech weapons left behind? If so, there would have been a lot of dead people when the US left.

The problem with looking at Europe and its own coordinated military is that the EU cant even figure out who TF is going to lead it. It sure wont be Germany because Poland and others will not let it happen. It wont be France because Turkey and others wont let it happen. Would it be Poland? The EU commission is one of the worst managed governing bodies in the world. I wouldnt trust them to operate a McDonalds franchise and follow the rules.

cms neuf
21 Mar 2025  #957

Of course it's going to take ten years - so the sooner we start the better. We know what we have to do - the US has made it quite clear the security guarantee no longer applies. So let's stop admiring the problem and get cracking on a solution.

If the US controls the satellites let's build European satellites. If they control all the launch rockets let's build European rockets. What do you expect us to do ?

For bad governance it's difficult to argue that the US federal system is delivering better results than the EU. The US govt has been dysfunctional since the 90s and seems impossible to pass legislation without it getting axed by the states or the courts.

And you call people names too - like Vanderkunt.

Oh and about those McDonalds franchises - we will be seeing a lot less of those over here. That's one corporation that can start paying its taxes so we dan build our nukes

mafketis
21 Mar 2025  #958

the US has made it quite clear the security guarantee no longer applies

Yes. The US is no longer a reliable ally (if it ever was). Trump is just a continuation of policy that does back at least to Clinton (probably to Bush, the first).

let's stop admiring the problem

Trump's foreign policy has no solutions, it's all about name calling and clout chasing.... Yarvin describes how modern US politics has degraded and the rank and file on both sides want nothing more than the sadistic domination and humiliation of the other side.

Trump being more aggressive to allies than to russia is playing to the cheap seats in MAGA-dom (which somehow thinks russia is a Christian country fighting globohomo... ridiculous idea, but....).

PolAmKrakow
21 Mar 2025  #959

@cms neuf
Not going to argue that the US government is better than the EU. Long over due for the US to clean its own house. Happy that Trump and Musk are upsetting and firing so many. Those screaming the loudest usually have something to hide. I hope the EU does the same. I live here and want the best for Poland and the EU. What I dont like is the unending levels of bureaucracy for so many small countries to then be saddled with more levels on the EU commission. Getting anything done in the EU can take forever.

Your take on name calling is noted. Will discontinue. As for the Americanization of Europe along with McDonalds and others, its too late to put that toothpaste back in the tube. The US culture war played on Europe is long over. Supply and demand. Even in Krakow we now have a Popeyes Chicken, a Canadian owned company I know, but its a Southern US concept. More and more US companies coming to Europe every day. 7/11 on its way as well. Zabka will have competition now.

@mafketis
The US is the most reliable ally Poland and Europe have ever had. Your comments are insulting, and simply stupid. If not for the US, Europe would be speaking German. Trumps foreign policy is to take care of the US. That is absolutely clear, and it is what Americans want. Solutions? How about the Canadian company in Alberta who is closing their operations and moving to the US to avoid tariffs? How about the new Honda factory slated for Mexico now being built in Indiana? That is exactly what Americans want.

When the US is in better shape internally, it will again help others. It will handle China quite quickly and that may happen sooner than we think. If Russia is happy, Putin wont start a new war before he dies. This gives Europe all the time they need to re-arm, and prepare for the next nut case whether its Russia or another country. Plenty of nationalist players in the EU now too. Can Turkey be trusted?

mafketis
21 Mar 2025  #960

Your comments are insulting

There is a difference between criticism and insults.

. Your comments are ...simply stupid

Perhaps. How precisely are they stupid?

Has Trump used harsher rhetoric towards allies or putin? This is verifiable.

I had hopes for Trump in terms of foreign policy and yet... so far.... all he's done is harm Ukraine and help russia.

Again. Verifiable. I've had my fill of being told to ignore reality.

Trumps foreign policy is to take care of the US

By threatening Canada and Denmark with military force? How does that 'take care of the US'?


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