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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20



Paulina
21 Mar 2025  #991

Wishful thinking and bottomless arrogance.

What on Earth are you talking about?? lol

in every other post, not realizing that Poland is not the center of world.

Where did I claim that Poland is "the center of world", you maniac? lol Of course it isn't, but I'm a Polish patriot and I live in Poland so, obviously, Poland is "the center" of my world.

he means , you the Google savants

In what way am I being "ungrateful"?

who arrogantly assume that you represent opinion of majority of the Polish population.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, you'd have to elaborate on that.

Torq
21 Mar 2025  #992

Polish self-determination century ago - totally different matter.

Totally different matter precisely because it was over a century ago - different times, different world.

In case of Crimea it wasn't the Polish case (or Czechoslovak or Bulgarian, Yugoslav, Romanian etc.) but the case of Yugoslavia that was decisive. After Yugoslavia (and then Kosovo) post-war borders were no longer sacred and - like dominoes - here's the sh*t at which we arrive today.

mafketis
21 Mar 2025  #993

post-war borders were no longer sacred

None of the cases you meant changed borders... they changed the political affiliation without challenging borders themselves. Even the invasion of Crimea didn't do that.

Even putin's claim to oblasts that russia does not currently hold changes those borders.

Northern Kazakhstan would be a different case.

Torq
21 Mar 2025  #994

None of the cases you meant changed borders

Oh, you mean the border changes were only internal? But still: the dissolution of Yugoslavia, the secession of Kosovo, the unification of Germany, the separation of Czechia and Slovakia - there were too many changes of borders in late 20th century in Europe and it opened Pandora's Box. I guess the Kosovo case was the worst - it was assumed that immigrants, if they breed at a higher rate than the locals, can declare independence and secede if they so wish (it doesn't bode well for the future of Europe in general, does it?).

Northern Kazakhstan would be a different case.

Why? If you assume that Kazakhstan and Russia are inside internal post-war Soviet Union borders, then it's no different than Ukraine or Nagorno-Karabakh situation, with lands of former Soviet republics changing ownership between themselves.

Novichok
21 Mar 2025  #995

French nukes then it is! Vive la France!! 🇲🇫

Au revoir Article 5!

mafketis
21 Mar 2025  #996

Oh, you mean the border changes were only internal?

Yes. Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonian, Montenegrin borders are all the same as the Jugoslav republic borders.
Even kosovo uses the internal Serbian border.

immigrants, if they breed at a higher rate than the locals

Kosovo has not been Serb majority for well over a hundred years. Serbia wants to control it but not enough Serbs wanted to live there to hang onto it.

I don't know if potential russian aggression in North Kazakhstan would be along internal Kazakh borders or not.

Bobko
21 Mar 2025  #997

a hideous polyp on the healthy body of our glorious forum

Very nice.

Torq
21 Mar 2025  #998

@Bobko

Sorokin's a genius.

The caterpillar copulation scene was superfluous, but apart from that - a great book.

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #999

kursk

"The Kursk operation was a success"

-- Zelensky

70,000 Ukrainians are gone for this.

x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1901742612022710671

currently the Russians are penetrating into the Sumy region of Ukraine.

Novichok
22 Mar 2025  #1000

70,000 Ukrainians are gone for this.

It was a very expensive stunt...but as long as they volunteer to fight and die for that imaginary freedom and democracy let's pretend they are still alive....

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1001

vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_4516708

the "road of death" in the Kursk region, through which the Ukrainian army retreated to Ukraine. You can see a lot of destroyed Ukrainian equipment, especially armored vehicles.

m777

the third captured howitzer M777 near Sudzha



the American Abrams on its way to Moscow

well, this doesn't look like a retreat, but a total rout.



beautiful Russian woman

they really gave them an ass whooping

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1002

kursk

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1003

trump

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1004

Patrick Lancaster - American journalist embedded with the Russian Forces



Kursk Frontline: Russian Forces Sweep Sudzha For Ukraine Soldiers

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1005



The Terrifying Judgement (Pobedna Pesma) - Epic Serbian Orthodox Revelation Chant

Crow
22 Mar 2025  #1006

Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

To sum it up.

Poland can only help Ukraine to die.

Ironside
22 Mar 2025  #1007

The US should do this or that.

Look the US can do what they want. Obviously is doing it right now.
In means that Poland can do what we want. Simple.
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Paulina
22 Mar 2025  #1008

Au revoir Article 5!

Eh? What does it have to do with Article 5? France is in NATO and they're your ally too, moron lol 🤦

Crow
22 Mar 2025  #1009

In means that Poland can do what we want. Simple.

Exactly.

Point is to choose well your moves.

Look Serbia and Hungary. We choose alliance.

PolAmKrakow
22 Mar 2025  #1010

@Paulina
Lets compare:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan

According to the US Department of Defense, about 250,000 were killed in the European theater, in WW2. Who has given more to who? And when did you ever hear an American complain that Europe didnt give enough aid to the US?

If you think the US needs Germany as a hub, you dont know much about the US military. Look how quickly Rzezow was built up for Ukraine operations. You know what happens when the US closes military bases and brings soldeirs home? The towns and cities built up around them slowly die from a loss of those Americans spending dollars in the community. Careful what you wish for.

Torq
22 Mar 2025  #1011

The towns and cities built up around them slowly die from a loss of those Americans spending dollars in the community.

If you think Rzeszów, or any other Polish town/city, was built around a US military base, you need to sue your history teacher.

Paulina
22 Mar 2025  #1012

According to the US Department of Defense, about 250,000 were killed in the European theater, in WW2. Who has given more to who?

If you want to talk numbers then the Soviet Union gave the most:



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan

There was no NATO during World War II and the US only joined the war after it was attacked by Japan. It was a world war, not just European war. And people were fighting against f*cking EVIL and not for some European interests or for oil. Our grandfathers were fighting not only for their countries, but for a world without Nazis.

If you think the US needs Germany as a hub, you dont know much about the US military.

I don't have to think it - that's the reality - Germany is a hub for the US. Europe is generally a good, safe and stable operational base for the US to protect its interests on this side of the globe. So don't tell me those American bases are in Europe only to protect Europe, because this is bullsh1t.

And when did you ever hear an American complain that Europe didnt give enough aid to the US?

Trumpists complain about Europe ALL THE TIME o_O You behave as if all the US ever did it did for Europe and Europe never did ANYTHING for the US. Sorry, but we will be pointing out that this is not true.

Crow
22 Mar 2025  #1013

Rising morale to Poles, turning heads of Poles in right direction >

Orban: `Don't provoke the Serbs! Without Serbia there is no stability in the Balkans!`



Serbian army march



SABATON - Last Dying Breath (Official Lyric Video)



Paulina
22 Mar 2025  #1014

The towns and cities built up around them

Eh? What towns or cities in Europe were built up around American bases? Ramstein was first mentioned in a document dated 1215 lol o_O 🤦

Careful what you wish for.

Again - eh? What on Earth am I wishing for according to you? lol *sigh*

Crow
22 Mar 2025  #1015

Good morning to the brave and victorious Russian fighters on the front-line, with a song ...

Fenečki biseri - Rjabinuška & Ovo je Srbija - MTS Dvorana 21.maj 2023.



Let Odessa is next by brothers

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1016

It is said that if Ukraine rejected the peace deal, Russia would go on ahead even further and claim all of Novorossiya, including Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov

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Crow
22 Mar 2025  #1017

Vesko brate, we know how would this finish. The map of Europe and world would be changed absolutely. Countries resized. Some would perish. Some new born. Borders among civilizations drawn.

Vesko Vukovic
22 Mar 2025  #1018



How Russia KNOCKED OUT Ukraine From Kursk

Crow
22 Mar 2025  #1019

Even word Ukraine don`t belong to false nation. Ukraine is Serbian word.

So I fu*k evil Zel!

mafketis
22 Mar 2025  #1020

would go on ahead even further and claim all of Novorossiy

How? They can't even take all of Donetsk?


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