Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 20

Are you, by any chance, instructing Trump on the intricacies of foreign affairs?

would that it were....

Will Trump ever wake up and smell the coffee?
A new low on the idiot scale...

Come on...

Trump as Putin agent... is a story that literally got its own Special Counsel (Robert Mueller), multiple Congressional committees, and an entire task force within the FBI.

It's not something we can idly speculate about any longer.

There are fully logical and predictable reasons why Trump is President. None of them have anything to do with Russia.

Perhaps not. But there's something fundamentally unsound about him. If he's not a Russian agent, then he must be a stone mason, a Francophile, or maybe a philatelist. I don't know but I don't like him.

weak fragile ego.... he's a bit like an old pillow that retains the shape of whatever head rested on it...

in the first adminstration jared kushner was resting on him and so there was no border fence (though his foreign policy was a lot better)

at present it's elon musk so he's hostile to allies while trying for russian reset #46 (which russia doesn't want)

For sure not.

The fact that things got so far along that a US President was investigated for being an agent of Russia is... still preposterous.

I don't like Trump either, but when he says "Russia Hoax" - he's really speaking the truth. Two years of wasted time and taxpayer money that was...

What's fundamentally unsound about Trump is that he has zero values or principles. However, if you can wrap your mind around this fact, then it's reasonably easy to figure out a way of carrying on business with him without too much danger to yourself.

Zelensky obviously failed that test, even after umpteen people had coached him on keeping his mouth shut and sticking to the script.

Duda meanwhile did better, despite receiving a stinking pile of sh*t on his head from Trump.

One respect in which I'm proud of our leaders right now, is the performance of Russia's diplomats.

Our football team maybe sh*t, and the army struggled in Ukraine... but the diplomats are still the best.

They understand and play Trump perfectly.

Seems simple, but we can see how so many other countries are floundering.

Cool. When he reaches reset #47, the number of resets will be equal to the number of chromosomes in each of his somatic cells.


That's actually a good trait in a politician.

If you have values and principles as a politician, then you risk ending up allied to France and Britain against Nazi Germany. They' re dangerous things, values and principles.


Not much glory in it though. It's like winning a chess game against a retarded 5-year-old. But you have a good point about other countries failing to do that.

There goes Ukraine down the drain

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Zelensky on life support apparatus

Do you know what it is? Not a Russian agent, not some sinister conspiracy theories. The answer to your doubts is simple - he is from New York.
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Not that difficult. He wants something from Russia, he can't make Russia do anything. He has to parley, and it gives you an advantage.
Yes, Russian diplomats are professional, but come on, they haven't shown anything spectacular in a low-key way yet.

I truly hope that we Slavs establish Slavic rule over our entire civilization. It would be better that way. Not to belong to some amorphous Catholic Roman or Orthodox Constantinople realms. Not to some hypothetical Europe or Eurasia. We are Slavs and we deserve to have our own Slavic ie Sarmatian civilization.

I would argue it's not.

That is, it may be good for the individual politician, as far as electability is concerned, but it does not make "good" politicians.

The leaders we all remember fondly are precisely the ones that led from a place of principle - Mandela, Gandhi, Lincoln, Adenauer, etc


I once listened to an interview with Lavrov.

The journalist started recording from the outside of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs building, the sister of Warsaw's PKiN.

Heavy doors with 5 point stars and hammers and sickles. Long, dark, depressing corridors devoid of people. Solemn busts line the walls - of former Russian diplomats. It all created the impression that the lord of this dark kingdom cannot be anything other than some grey and soulless character... Certainly not that this is the place where Russian victories are forged.

But that's how Lavrov described his role. He argued that it's no pleasure to deliver the expected. The pleasure is to deliver the unexpected - even the impossible. Capturing victory from the jaws of defeat - is how Lavrov saw the historic role of Russian diplomacy.

Now we can see what he meant.

There are some parallels between Putin and Lavrov in this sense. When people ask Putin why he decided to enter the intelligence services, he often brings up this point - that Soviet films produced a tremendous impression on him - by showing that a single spy can do more to turn the course of a battle or a war, than entire divisions and army corps.

Really? I think it's been impressive so far.

They are definitely running circles around the real estate guy (Steve Witkoff) and Marco Rubio.

I don't understand how Trump could think it was a good idea to send those two guys, vs Lavrov and Ushakov.

Lavrov lived in New York for more than ten years while he was Permanent Representative to the United Nations.

Ushakov was ambassador of Russia to the United States for ten years.

These two guys understand America incredibly well, and understand how to talk to it. Meanwhile Rubio and Witkoff don't know a thing about Russia, or what makes it tick.

They should have sent me instead.

The Secretary of State that Lavrov enjoyed working with the most was John Kerry.

He talks about him in weird terms. Says Kerry "was a gentleman" and "a real aristocrat" and "a man I could trust implicitly".

I think it was the age similarity, and Cold War romance that brought those two together.

He did not have much nice things to say about Hillary Clinton or Rex Tillerson.

I don't think you would produce bad results for Russia if you were sitting on the other side of the table. You are realistic - don't suffer from too many romantic delusions.

I wouldn't let the US side be played by Russia. To be exact I wouldn't let the shortcomings of the US foreign policies work against it.
What do you think Russia wants? Want everything it can get, land, rules, and pacts and to leave an opener for future action against Ukraine.
To but some time I would use land and that it. Russia can't push the US too much because they can increase military help to Ukraine.
So both sites need to buy some time - the winner will be decided later.
Peace after that war - no matter how long or shot will decide the winner of that round.
The key is not to let Russia entangle the US or Ukraine with some silly agreements that would work against them.

It's time for the free world to turn its collective back against America until they're back to normal. And if they keep trying to rip off Ukraine's economy on the basis that they 'gave' them money, then that means it's time for every country who helped them after 9/11 to send a bill and freeze bank accounts belonging to their biggest companies to get it. Their government can reimburse their own.

They've managed to turn a negotiation to a clown ship. And meanwhile the real negotiations here in Paris are being ignored by the media.

Perhaps that's a plan. Focus attention on trump's clownery while the real business happens elsewhere.

Please remember to mention that to Polam from Krakow when he starts on his 'at least Trump is trying' rants...

Trying to stay out of prison. Something PAK failed at several times.

It's hard to know what trump's appeal is to his voters. Are they that stupid?

It's pretty easy, actually....

Dems went all in on woke excess.... and most sane people (especially those who bore the brunt of the policies) wanted nothing to do with them.

Trump is not a very good president but his views are closer to those of most Americans than are those of Biden or Harris...

But Trump is actually trying? What am I supposed to tell PAK?

Ironside is right in that Russia currently has all the leverage, and that is why it has a negotiating advantage. I mean this is an obvious thing - stated even by your own heads of state.

I just went off on a tangent about Russian diplomacy, and there I stand by my words. Our delegation is running circles around the American one.

This is the problem of turning the running of American government into a reality TV show. And it wasn't even Trump that started it.

While celebrities rotate into powerful positions (Mr. Hegseth comes to mind), you still have people like Radoslaw Sikorsky (who fought with the mujahideen in Afghanistan) and Putin (a career intelligence officer) in other places. Maybe one day we will also have tv anchors and comedians as presidents, but thank god for now we don't.

You could fight valiantly on the field for years without ceding ground, just for some clown to later trade it away for a trinket. This is why all parts of government have to work in unison.

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That is actually presentation of acting world government. One-sided but still in hierarchical order.

Bobko please play along and get with the favorite Agent Krasnov theory of certain PF members 😉

You know for example how a Russian billionaire bought Trump's villa for 3x the actual market price thereby saving him from bankruptcy.

KGB agent "Krasnow" 🤣

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If Krasnaya Armiya = Red Army, then Orange would be Red.
They could have been a little more creative...

Доналд Краснов





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Jon, the thought that you are wondering about yourself ever crossed your mind?

Trump is not Rus. He is Srbin.

Relay, what would make him a good president in your mind? You are better, in that respect, than 99% of democrats.The whole liberal establishment is acting
like children lost in the woods, trying, without success, to figure out what makes him tick, what is the source of his popularity.