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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 21



Bobko
16 Apr 2025  #181

....imagine what they could reach with the Taurus! The Kreml???

When they hit the Kremlin, the very next thing being hit is the central government district of Kiev.

The last time the Kremlin experienced any damage from an aggressor was in 1812, during Napoleon's occupation. Incidentally, the same year that the White House got burned down by British.

During Napoleon's visit to Moscow, we set fire to the Kremlin, and then the entire city - so that the French would starve to death from their occupation. They got so angry, that they partially exploded the remaining parts of the Kremlin when they left.

This did not help France win the war in any way. By March 31st, 1814, Russian troops were leading the march of victorious allies into Paris.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Apr 2025  #182

....yeah...absolutely possible...

Torq
16 Apr 2025  #183

That would actually be cool if all wars were about the retarded governments bombing the hell out of each other's main official buildings and leaving ordinary people alone.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Apr 2025  #184

...and leaving ordinary people alone.

*nods*

The ideal war....let the antagonists fight it out between themselves only!!!!

Bobko
16 Apr 2025  #185

The ideal war....let the antagonists fight it out between themselves only!!!!

Antagonists are:

1) Humanities students with vivid imagination

2) Social misfits who can find no role except in the military

3) Bullying victims - who live vicariously though current events

4) Pensioners who worship their TV - but otherwise have nothing to do.

All normal people could never understand what a war is necessary for.

When you are young, you are making money, and life is coming together nicely - war is pretty much the last thing you are interested in.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Apr 2025  #186

Well....I somehow accept that fighting was and is and probably always will be part of the human nature.

But it would be nice to find a way back to earlier times when they beat each others heads in only, instead of destroying the lives of millions of bystanders with these modern weapons....just an illusion, I know!

Novichok
16 Apr 2025  #187

bombing the hell out of each other's main official buildings and leaving ordinary people alone.

Such wars last forever.

Killing civilians makes them short. If those civilians are naked little girls running down the street like the one in Saigon - the war is even shorter...

Torq
16 Apr 2025  #188

There should be a rule saying that if any (and I mean ANY) country starts a war, all the other countries gang up on them, own them like b*tches, and the leaders of the aggressor country are closed in monkey cages and shown to children in zoos all over the world as the most retarded species on Earth.

Those who attack their own (Nordics attacking Nordics, Arabs attacking Arabs, Slavs attacking Slavs etc.) would additionally be kept on a diet consisting of cow dung only.

Unfortunately, nukes make such solution impossible. Did I mention that I hate them?
Of course, in this kurewski world Poland will have no other choice but get her own nuclear weapons. :-/

@Novichok

No, such wars wouldn't last forever. White House gets destroyed, Kremlin gets destroyed, whoever started goes into a monkey cage, and that's it - the rest of Russians and Americans get on with their lives. Simple.

Bobko
16 Apr 2025  #189

There should be a rule saying that if any (and I mean ANY) country starts a war

People forget the horrors of war, and start them again.

If you look at Soviet leaders like Khruschev and Brezhnev - you can see what I mean. Khruschev was older, and worked along Stalin, but he still experienced the full brunt of the war. He was present at nearly every large battle.

Brezhnev was younger, but also Ukrainian, and as such had been taken under Khruschev's wing starting from the early 30s. The war was much harder for him - he could easily call himself a real veteran.

It was these two men - exactly - that were responsible for the biggest thaw in relations with the United States. Khruschev had his famous "Kitchen Debates" with Nixon (VP) and was hosted by Eisenhower. Khruschev famously backed down during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Brezhnev visited with Nixon, and then with Ford - and inaugurated the period of Detente.

If you read Brezhnev's memoirs, its clear that his experience of the war was the driving factor in his attempts to find peace with the United States.

When the people that knew why war must be avoided die, the cycle renews.

Torq
16 Apr 2025  #190

When the people that knew why war must be avoided die, the cycle renews.

That's why we need global mentality change. Those who excel at war shouldn't be admired and thought of as heroes but despised and thought of as retards.

Without such widespread mentality change there will always appear a scumbag politician willing to gamble with peoples' lives.

WariatismCurse
16 Apr 2025  #191

" Khruschev was older, and worked along Stalin, but he still experienced the full brunt of the war. He was present at nearly every large battle."

he was inside Stalingrad wasnt he? on the front lines.

WariatismCurse
16 Apr 2025  #192

imagine if brezhnev was srill alive hed srill not be the oldest person ever:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people

Przelotnyptak1
16 Apr 2025  #193

I do and that's on the US and not any collective "West".

Paulina, your inconsistency is the one and only constant. My ears wilted like weeds sprayed with potent pesticide while listening to your repeated claims of allies' contribution to American efforts in removing Saddam from power, but now a complete turnaround. Now the US is guilty, and the West is the land of the angels.
So, which one do you prefer today?

Paulina
16 Apr 2025  #194

Paulina, your inconsistency is the one and only constant.

Your accusations against me are untrue as usual.

Now the US is guilty, and the West is the land of the angels.

No, but Bobko was talking about Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse and that was perpetrated only by Americans - no other nationalities were involved. That's why I wrote that Abu Ghraib case is on the US and not on the West in general.

Novichok
16 Apr 2025  #195

There should be a rule saying that if any (and I mean ANY) country starts a war, all the other countries gang up on them,

When the US started the war in Iraq, many countries joined in - including yours.

Saddam must have been an existential threat to Poland or did you simply get an order from the DC?
Those who excel at war

...they hate wars the most. They are commonly known as soldiers.

It's the keyboard warriors that like wars the most.. "I would do this" and that type...Or: "Putin is stupid and doesn't know what he wants...but I do..." goes a typical PF imbecile...

Or Trump is an idiot but everybody in Poland is a genius...

Crow
16 Apr 2025  #196

Even in America - look - they tried to kill Trump.

Globalists, truth.

But realistic America knows that former Ukraine belongs to Russia and Slavic world, not to globalists. Because America is great again.

I have people working on it.

Yes, I feel tackling on sophisticated places.

Bobko
16 Apr 2025  #197

They are commonly known as soldiers.

Two Ukrainians, that Russian forces have a sort of hateful respect for - are Denis Prokopenko (now colonel) and Robert Brovdi (callsign: Madyar).

Prokopenko, also known as Redis, was the leader of the Azov soldiers who defended Mariupol and then made their final stand at Azovstal. He then became a POW in Russia, and was traded in a widely covered deal. He had to live some time in Turkey, before the Ukrainian government rudely broke the agreement and returned him to Ukraine. After he returned to Ukraine, he was again given command - another violation. Nevertheless, he has a lot of respect from the side of Russian military personnel. So Prokopenko - surprise, surprise - is a big supporter of an immediate ceasefire.

The second guy, Madyar - is literal Satan. He leads the deadliest group of Ukrainian drone operators. He has innovated nearly half of all the important breakthroughs related to drone warfare during this war. Russia has tried to kill him more than a dozen times. What does this guy want to do? He wants the war to end ASAP, and says that when it ends the first thing he will do is leave Ukraine and sell his skills to someone that actually values it. How about that?

Torq
16 Apr 2025  #198

Saddam must have been an existential threat to Poland or did you simply get an order from the DC?

We were discussing ideal solutions in an ideal world and you pull Saddam on me.

I am well aware that general whoredom rules supreme in the real world and that Poland is not the last virgin in this brothel. Alas.

Crow
16 Apr 2025  #199

He then became a POW in Russia, and was traded in a widely covered deal. He had to live some time in Turkey

If Russian jails are of the same kind as the USA jails, poor Prokopenko lost his virginity. No wonder that he later finished in Turkey. For sure was sold as a woman or, as talented giver.

Novichok
16 Apr 2025  #200

How about that?

Simple.

The real war criminals are the civilians who never test positive for GSR but wholeheartedly encourage others to go and fight. See Western scum plus Poland.

If Russian jails are of the same kind as the USA jails

Nobody was ever raped at ADX Florence.

So if you are planning a crime, make sure you kill many and that it's federal. If you can, scream: Allah is great! Your personal safely will be assured till the day you die there.

Crow
16 Apr 2025  #201

Good news for free world >

Russian Ruble Is Top World Performing Currency as US Trade War Hits Dollar

> bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-15/ruble-surges-as-best-performing-global-currency-outpacing-gold

Bobko
16 Apr 2025  #202

Russian Ruble Is Top World Performing Currency as US Trade War Hits Dollar

Great news - but not so great for the federal budget.

Cheap rubles makes paying for war expenses easy. Strong ruble - the opposite.

Novichok
16 Apr 2025  #203

Great news - but not so great for the federal budget.

What's good for Russia is good for the world.

Get ready for mass migration of Western European whites when Sharia is in effect.

Alien
16 Apr 2025  #204

What's good for Russia is good for the world

So the world is going crazy.

Miloslaw
16 Apr 2025  #205

What's good for Russia is good for the world.

So the world is going crazy.

That's what Russia wants and hopes for.

Przelotnyptak1
16 Apr 2025  #206

Your accusations against me are untrue as usual.

But Paulina, what in my post was untrue? Believe me I don't lie intentionally. Sometimes when joking to make a post interesting, I will exaggerate, which is different from lying.

WariatismCurse
16 Apr 2025  #207

this has to be one of the best stalingrad documentaries of all time:


WariatismCurse
17 Apr 2025  #208

in 28:36 a monument or engraving in stone is shown that interestingly reads:
" hier konen russenund polen due un dersch weren zeit 1943-1945 fern inrer heinat starren"

or

" Here, Russians and Poles who were born in the period 1943-1945 can stare at their homeland."

it is interesting that germans considered russians and poles one and the same?

Torq
17 Apr 2025  #209

germans considered russians and poles one and the same?

Yeah, the same "Untermenschen".

And yet there are Slavs today who parade in SS uniforms. Humans are weird creatures.

Novichok
17 Apr 2025  #210

What's good for Russia is good for the world.

Here is why...

Russia is an oasis of reason. In this mad world of LGBT perverts we need an adult who knows what is normal and is willing to resist Western nuts with too much money and time on their hands. See US MICC, NATO, Muslim invasion of white Europe, Poland with nukes,...the list is long...

One day, we all will see Russia's action in Donbass the way we now see WW2 - a just and necessary war against immoral Western criminals ...that same scum that went to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan to kill millions for "freedom and democracy" as a gift to the people who never asked for either for the price they paid.


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