Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 25

@grabber
Another delusional Russian. Russia doesnt want any part of Poland these days. Talk the talk, but theres no way Vlad will try to walk into Poland. And yes the US would wipe the floor with Russia at this point if they attacked Poland. And lets be clear, without the lend lease act from the US, Russia would still be burying bodies from WW2, and without the US and Europe taking France, Italy and then the rest of western Europe the war would have gone on for years and you would be speaking German.

Ok, we understood. Every dollar of polish regime will be taken out to be given to Iraq heroes, for participation in criminal invasion to Iraq.

@Bobko

When you view the info about a user on their profile page, you can see their join date. I did and was alarmed to see that this character has been spewing his crap all over this forum for that long.

In any case, I fear you have become desensitized, Bobczu...

Now look at that....first Gaza now Ukraine???


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Maybe Trump got a taste of being seen by the world as the "big doer"! :)

BB... did you not get enough of these articles in 2022-2023? You are beginning to sound like Miloslaw...

At this point, you should have learned the usual rhythm and "swing" of Western media - as far as it concerns the conflict in Ukraine.

They oscillate between "Russia is finished" and "Russia is about to invade NATO" - with a frequency of about once every few months.

God knows what the purpose of these wild swings is, but I suspect a large part of it is intended simply to keep readers engaged (rather than some grand warmongering conspiracy).

Russia is neither "finished", nor "about to win".

Trump deciding to "get serious" with Russia, should also not phase experienced observers. Biden was "serious", over a longer period of time, and more explicitly.

Putin and Co. can survive whatever Trump throws their way - at least for some period of time. So don't expect quick results or rapid shifts in position.

Kremlin and friends spent more than half a trillion dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives on this war - they won't fold "simply because".

A very stupid post.The UK could do the same to Moscow and many other major Russian cities.What is the point?

Nope, and not comparable at all. The War in Iraq was not genocidal, it was not aimed at aggressively annexing entire countries or their territories, it did not state Iraqis do not have a right to exist, it did not purposefully target civilians. And Bush never received any credible accusation of commiting genocide, let alone an arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court.

Despite all Russskie talking points, Iraq is not in any way, shape or form comparable to the illegality of ruZZian 2014 war/Crimea annexation, and is especially not comparable to the current illegal war of aggression by ruZZia.

I can't believe the huge numbers of brainwashed Russians and others on this forum!
RUSSIA IS LOSING THIS WAR!!!!

Get it!

Russia has a pathetically weak military, The only thing they have is nuclear power and they know full well that if they use that, Russia will be gone......

Sometimes you sound like a reincarnation of Pilsudski and Dmowski combined - and sometimes you sound like a little frightened chicken.

What gives?

What kind of a Polish patriot are you - if you have to hide behind these pathetic arguments?

You don't believe that the strong deserve to rule the Earth? What kind of conservative are you?

You think mere words, are enough to stop artillery guns and missiles? Are you a child?

You talk of "right to exist" as if you are some woman on her period, right after exiting a "social justice" class.

You are very emotional Korvinus. Is everything ok with your hormone balance?

I respected you as some hardline Polish nationalist, but sometimes you sound like a 16 year old girl from Beverly Hills - and this is very confusing.

There is no conflict between those three and Russia other than Western idiocy of claiming that Russia is an enemy - the claim the EU globalist scum needs to justify their suicidal

The male version of Paulina ...by the book...as if books can win against artillery and tanks...

Putin: Oh, it's against the UN rules...Guys, start packing...we are going home...

....and this is a point of change...(maybe):

(from the same BILD source + Google translate)

Biden:


Trump:


I can't help it Bobko, but it doesn't look like a developing bromance between Putin and Trump....and that fact could very well become decisive for this war, don't you think?

Somehow the last personal meeting was not the beginning of a great friendship, I guess....

So was Vietcong and NV ... and they won...

Russians are defending their homeland and their Russian brothers. Ukrainians are being used by Western warmongers.

See the difference?


The decisive fact: It is not our war.

No American will ever be sent to kill Russians for "freedom and democracy" in Ukraine.

russia can't do much more in Ukraine than it has now.... they might cause a nuclear melt down because they're going to try to hook up a nuclear reactor in Zaporizhzhia, and it will probably go wrong.... but militarily all they can do is target random civilian and infrastructure targets while the west shrugs and tries to pretend it didn't help the invasion happen (looking at you Deutschland!)

But russians have a taste for war... their is no competing narrative or explanation in russia and a large majority wants war for its own sake.

So they have to redirect their energies.... they can't accomplish much by a conflict with NATO but they can still do massive damage and kill lots of people (because that's what they want to do). Damage to the russian economy doesn't matter because nothing in russia is about the comfort or safety of citizens.....

It's like people haven't learned anything in the last three years....

From your lips to God's ears!

But we are talking Trump here....and being seen as the one guy who can bring peace and/or decide wars is extremely addictive! Especially for a quite vain guy...and he is playing in the top league now...

Talking about low IQ. Now it makes sense that you'd be this weird fetishist of some KGB dwarf. You're simply not right in the head.

For your information, if there's a bit of your mind still capable of reason, while people with strength will do as they please regardless of what is right or good (which people like you conflate with something like "might is right"), it still logically does NOT proceed that strong deserve to rule. "Strong deserve to rule" is about logical or coherent as "1 makes 2", simply because it's impossible to place causal relationship between the 2. It should be obvious, but still many parrot this stupidity as if it is not. If strong deserve to rule, then I suppose every act of violence - including those within society - are proper, and yet for some "strange" reason we still punish murderers and the like. And if strong deserve to rule, then why are your people crying at being treated like unfairly by the West?

I guess morally there was nothing wrong with the Holocaust, after all strong deserve to rule the Earth.

And I don't doubt Palestinians are probably low IQ retards like all Arabs are but I'm not sure that justifies starving two millions of them. You might discover there's another power to consider, one not of this world who might take objection to that.

Yes, the meek will inherit the Earth - but not her mineral rights.


I never purported to feel sexual attraction towards Putin.


You sound just like a woman - I SWEAR TO GOD!

Spouting all this nonsense about fairness, and equity, and moral principles. Are you a Pole or some Luxembourger? Next you will begin to tell me that disabled people deserve protection, and that how we treat our older people is a good indication of our moral virtue as a society. Enough!

Speak like a man! Otherwise go back to your corner and be quiet. You are sounding too much like a battered wife.

Not in so many words.... but everybody sees past the cool exterior to the inner fire.

Admit it, you wish it was your stomach that he kissed.... (maybe it was?)

You know me, Maf, as even my own wife does not know me.

It's true - buried deep within - is a flame. A flame of passion.


That young gentleman could not be born earlier than 1999. At least a decade too late to be yours truly...

But do I want Putin to kiss me on my tummy? Yes... and why not?!

Does a Frenchman not want to be kissed on the belly button by Macron?

Does a German not want to be rocked to sleep by Merz?

Can an American go through a day, without seeing the visage of the Sun-Like one on FoxNews or MSNBC?

We are all human, in the end.

Their brothers with gold toilets somehow are not rushing with food or invitations to migrate to them.

In fact, not a single Arab country wants Palestinians. Egypt has erected a beautiful fence to send this message to them and the woke world.

That leaves Europe.

Hey, Barney, how about inviting 2 million Gazans to Ireland...They would show you how to handle LGBTs...

I would be so proud of you, the Irish...

Bobko, be honest and tell us how you rate yourself on the 0 -100 scale?

Zero is a guy with a bone stuck through his nose as his greatest achievement. 100 is Einstein.

Now...don't be shy or funny...

@Novichok

This incredibly laughable dated caricature of a non-European 'savage' tells you absolutely everything you need to know about this dusty old f*ck and his ideas about the world. Haunting this forum like a deranged racist ghost with nowhere else to be.

I think a solid "51".

I'm smarter than the bottom half of real dummies.

But still confidently below those august and enlightened individuals who drive our societies forward.

I'm a passenger - in the most essential sense. I'm just along for the ride, and up for whatever adventure.

I don't pretend to know what's up, and what we gotta do next.

I asked you not be funny.

Plus, I don't believe one word you wrote in 622.

"Solid 51"...my ass...I see you got Americanized very well and like practicing self-deprecation...

Israeli war in Gaza IS genocidal, and recognized as such by UN. But I did not see any attempt to seize international actives of Israel, enforce any sanctions against state of Israel, and even Israel is not banned by song contest, as Russia was, even without legible accusation in genocide. Also, compare how many civilians was killed during Iraq invasion and how many was lost during SMO.

If we will start to seize actives of every country that participated in military actions without resolution of UN SC, US will be first to became broke immediately.

Dear Velund...This is the moment to provide these numbers as they serve Russia very well.

Civilian deaths:

In Iraq war: 200,000 - 500,000

During SMO: 14,000

Memo to PF Russia haters: Ease off with that anti-Russia crap...

@Bobko
Biden was not serious about Russia. He dipped his toe in the water and when it was too hot he only offered money and basic military aid. He never jumped in and said fvck it, lets win this thing. Trump on the other hand is still completely unpredictable. Putin knows this and I think Trump is now getting pi$$ed off enough to show Putin who has the better weapons by allowing Ukraine to access some real difference making items.

While I am all for ending the war with a settlement, and believe continuing to kill men is simply stupid. I also believe that Russia is exhausting its resources and now its economy is showing some signs of weakness. If Trump throws some real serious weapons into the fight, Ukraine could hit deep into Russia which would effect not only the military but civilians. Without the confidence of his people, things could go in the other direction in a matter of months.

🤣

This is comedy gold.

You almost convinced me but then I tried to imagine Nawrocki trying to kiss me on the belly button and, although it was quite warm in my study, I shivered.


Try 91.

I deduct one point for being a Marxist (it does prove certain intellectual weakness but luckily being a Marxist is not your defining trait) and eight points for thinking that giving Pawian a lot of money is a good idea.


Nuremberg for war criminals!!! No... wait a minute... ;)

Either you give up and millions die to deportations, torture, slavery and outright genocide and then srusgoblins claim its 'new russia'
Every political union with Russians in it sooner or later changes into an authoritarian/totalitarian shithole.

Nah, in Poland we have completely different traditions. 300 years of constitutional monarchy with strong parliament instead of tsar's autocracy. Even our interwar authoritarianism was much softer (and not genocidal) than the Soviet rule.

It's only Russia really.

russian values.... they don't include things like 'human life' 'individual rights' 'human dignity' it's all darwinian slaughter all the time


The russian system (tiny group of elites mercilessly exploiting the majority who are expected to rejoice in their servitude) hasn't changed since the 19th century, the labels change but the system is still the same

It's probably incapable of change which is why it periodically collapses

This is a dictatorial system in which the dictator must first show the oligarchs who really rules the country. Abramowich and colleagues learned this lesson.