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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 26



Torq
21 Nov 2025  #751

Has anyone actually read/google translated...

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/witold-jurasz-skandaliczny-plan-pokojowy-usa-i-rosji-amerykanie-zgodzili-sie-na/k71rbzw,79cfc278

... ?

It sums this "peace plan" perfectly. I recommend reading it to those who think this deal is acceptable to anyone with even a modicum of common human decency.

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"Either the loss of dignity or the risk of losing a key partner".

A no brainer - the "key partner" has to be told to go f*ck himself with a broomstick. Ukrainians are Poles of the East - they will tell everyone to f*ck off and they will keep on figthing. And if Americans stab them in the back, it is time for Poland to enter the war. Bloody occupant should never be rewarded for his criminal aggression, and the victim should never be punished and humiliated.

It's time.

For the sake of freedom. For the sake of human decency. For the sake of the Truth.

It's time.

If Americans insist on this betrayal, I want to read "Poland Mobilises" in the newspaper headlines.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #752

Newspaper articles and Twitter posts published - now the comments from Ukrainians are pouring in....

It doesn't look great for Zelensky (or good - I guess - if he wants to show Trump that the proposal is a non-starter).

It looks like the overwhelming majority of comments are... not happy ones.

Surprisingly enough - the Ukrainian military community of Twitter and Facebook are the ones that seem to have the most reasonable reaction.

Civilians, especially women, are pissed off at Trump and demanding "Vladimir, hold strong". Idiots.

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #753

Vladimir, hold strong

Hear, hear.

Володимир, hold strong - Poland is coming.

Now we can make it up to them - for all the centuries of treating them unfairly, for drowning the cossack uprisings in blood instead of giving them the same rights as Poles and Lithuanians had, for Piłsudski's betrayal of Petlura. @Donald Tusk - if you have anything resembling balls, order the mobilization!

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #754

It's time.

Kania - if it's "time" - then you must understand that you will also fight without America.

If Poland unilaterally joins the war against Russia - even other NATO members have no obligation to you.

It will be you, and the Ukrainians with their naked asses - against Russia.

You'll probably also get sanctioned by the US.

Why don't you ask the French and the British, why they spent 18 months talking about deploying a force to Ukraine, and then suddenly shut up? What happened to the Coalition of the Willing?

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #755

Володимир, hold strong - Poland is coming.

This is not what Nawrocki says.

This is not what KORWiN says.

Not what the folks of Ruch Narodowy say.

Not what the Zjednoczen folks say (Thank you Grzegorz!).

-//-

Maybe your PSL boys entertain such thoughts, but not the "meat" of Konfa.

And Konfa is the kingmaker, now and in future elections.

What can be done without them? Nothing.

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #756

Kania - if it's "time" - then you must understand that you will also fight without America.

F*ck 'em.

I don't care. You know that I am a reservists, so I will go in the first wave and probably not come back. F*ck it.

even other NATO members have no obligation to you.

F*ck 'em.

It will be you, and the Ukrainians with their naked asses - against Russia.

They are our brothers. If they go down, we go down with them.

You'll probably also get sanctioned by the US.

They can sanction this...

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the French and the British

We are friends (online but still), right? Do not insult me then by comparing Poles to the French and the British.

... and all the rabid nationalists and other KORWiNs can go f*ck themselves too.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #757

They can sanction this...

Ah, you are a real Slav man!

But do you disagree with my understanding of where Konfederacija stands on the question?

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #758

... and a pissed off Slav man too!

But do you disagree with my understanding of where Konfederacija stands on the question?

No.

You understand Konfa's, Braun's and other rabid nationalists' position correctly.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #759

and a pissed off Slav man too!

Don't be angry at us - we do what we have been evolved to do.

Be angry at America for flushing your friends down the toilet.

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #760

Don't be angry at us - we do what we have been evolved to do.

I'm not. Russia will be Russia - понятно.

Be angry at America for flushing your friends down the toilet.

That's exactly who I am angry at IF they will insists on imposing this humiliating capitulation on Ukraine. Hopefully they will come to their senses.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #761

You understand Konfa's, Braun's and other rabid nationalists' position correctly.

Thank you.

I understand them, as America First (Polish Edition).

Polska dla Polaków, as Iron explained to me many times, includes:

1) No military missions abroad

2) No foreign entanglements

3) No emotional alliances

4) No "sacrificing Polish interests for others."

-//-

Do you think Iron shares your particular point of view?

Novichok
21 Nov 2025  #762

Not what the folks of Ruch Narodowy say.

How many languages are you fluent in?

BTW, if this forum is "Polish", where are the posters in Polish?

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #763

Do you think Iron shares your particular point of view?

No, I do not think so.

Iron is a good guy and a Polish patriot but he spent too much time abroad in the West and it corrupted his Slavic soul.

where are the posters in Polish?

Chuj ci w dupę, Ryszard.

Happy?

Kurwa... I'm off... see ya later guys... 😡

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #764

How many languages are you fluent in?

3? Russian, English, and Ukrainian.

A little bit of Belarusian, but it's a fairy tale language...

Between Belarusian, Ukrainian and Russian - I can piece together most Polish constructions... but sometimes I stumble across something unexpected, and then have to reach for. a Polish dictionary or grammar book to understand what the hell is going on.

In general - as a Russian speaker - if something in Belarusian or Ukrainian looks strange, it's almost a 99% probability that it's Polish.

You collect these Polish mysteries in your head, and then they help you read and understand Polish.

Chuj ci w dupę, Ryszard.

For example - this is eminently understandable for a Russian.

No need to run for a translator.

Also, the famous video I shared of a Polish man chasing a beaver along the highway - is fully understandable for a Russian with zero translation.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #765

Kurwa... I'm off... see ya later guys... 😡

Well now I feel bad...

I've upset my good friend.

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I don't mean to be patronizing - but it's fully understandable to be upset when confronted with the ugly nature of the global system.

We Russians have been disgusted since the 1990s.

Nothing is sacred. Everything is for sale. Nobody cares about anything except for their ass.

That's life on Planet Earth.

Ukrainians listened to too much Radio Liberty, and spent too many evenings hanging out at the British Council.

They started to believe in dragons, and gnomes, and fairies - and now the Great Dildo of Consequences is crashing into their anus.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #766

Here's a Finn, who has been on many research trips to Ukraine, and cannot be accused by anyone of being a Russian sympathizer:


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Ironside
21 Nov 2025  #767

order the mobilization!

Are you kidding? The only thing Tusk can do for Poland is to jump into the river with his cronies. That already a huge help/

cms neuf
21 Nov 2025  #768

The only thing Tusk can do for Poland is to jump into the river with his cronies.

He can also sign off on Poland's nuclear weapons program.

Think we are going to rely on the US after this **** show ?

Ironside
21 Nov 2025  #769

We don't have any substantial proof from what I understand, and acting like Sikorski is treason.
The one thing or two we could do it is something I already recommended strongly a few times, To sort out Belarus and let them face a few serious consequences of their actions.
As for Russia, just one thing, if anything flies across the Polish border without authorisation, boom, shoot it down.
Moblization, how about you mobilise your brain cells?

Novichok
21 Nov 2025  #770

Moblization, how about you mobilise your brain cells?

Got to have 'em to mobilize 'em...His last one went to Nigeria and never came back...

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #771

sort out Belarus and let them face a few serious consequences of their actions

Yessss! Roll over the Potato Führer like over an insolent b*tch that he is. Large part of the forces will be directed to Ukrainian front of course, small detachment to secure Królewiec, but the rest should give the anus of Tractor Czar a good stretching.

if anything flies across the Polish border without authorisation, boom, shoot it down

Aye aye, sir! :)

Moblization, how about you mobilise your brain cells?

You see, Iron, in a situation that we are currently in, when our brain tells us one thing but out heart and conscience tell us something opposite, it is precisely the time to say "Sh*t the f*ck up, brain!".

By the way...

7-year-old Polish girl, Amelia, and her mum were murdered in Russian attack on civilian residential area in Tarnopol...

pap.pl/aktualnosci/rzecznik-msz-wsrod-ofiar-ataku-na-tarnopol-7-letnia-polka

Amelia :(

... still want to talk to me about some retarded brain cells, Iron? Or is there a little bit of a Pole left in you?

mafketis
21 Nov 2025  #772

we prosecute the most humane large-scale war

Are born russians born shameless or do they have it burned out of them?

It's only "humane" becausee Ukraine has air defenses.... russians are trying to flatten cities they just can't because of Ukraine air defenses and then they lie about 'humane' war....

Sick country full of adult children....

Ukrainians got sick of being eternal infants and want to join the world of adults but benastied russians want to drag them back into the playpen where they'll sit in sh[t-filled diapers and tell themselves how great they are....

Just.... revolting to anyone with morals or ethics.

Torq
21 Nov 2025  #773

Amelia :(

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #774

Just.... revolting to anyone with morals or ethics.

What's revolting is how you made these poor people fight for two extra years, to end up in the same place... or even worse.

cms neuf
21 Nov 2025  #775

@Bobko
You are talking about NN troops who were all volunteers - they went willingly to their posts on the expectation that they could loot and rape the peaceful people of Ukraine

mafketis
21 Nov 2025  #776

how you made these poor people

No one 'made' Ukrainians resist russian shi[tworld....

And they're only poor because they're next to "your" country that you obviously want to stay far away from (who can blame you?)

Korvinus
21 Nov 2025  #777

how you made these poor people fight for two extra years, to end up in the same place... or even worse.

Fight until the end and hope, what else.

Being conquered means they will get genocided anyway, better to be death than being under russia, that's why they fight.

You think the West would lose hundreds of billions on this war, only to let Ukrainian army disintegrate after a peace agreement? Just so Russia can walk in and take the rest whenever they want? How does that make any sense to you? Even in your brainrotten fantasy where the West is just a bunch of comic villains, who want to throw Ukrainians into the grinder to hurt russia, it doesn't make any sense for them to just stop the money flow. They will absolutely keep making Ukraine into an anti-Russian fortress-country.

Bobko
21 Nov 2025  #778

Being conquered means they will get genocided

Did not continue reading after this point...

Idiot.

Ron2
21 Nov 2025  #779

@Bobko
Have you considered joining the Russian army? They pay good and your patriotism will be rewarded.

mafketis
21 Nov 2025  #780

Did not continue reading after this point...

After Mariupol and Buch you're still in denial about what the russian government wants to do....

Pathetic.


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