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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 27



Alien
24 Dec 2025  #691

Last time I did this it was a gay p*rn video with midgets dressed up as winged hussars gangbanging a Vladimir Putin lookalike.

It was at RT level.

Miloslaw
24 Dec 2025  #692

Putin is £vcked......Russia is MUCH weaker than they would have us believe.



Alien
25 Dec 2025  #693

Donbass is Russian

The entire free world thinks otherwise, just as Crimea is not Russian...unless you think that Taiwan is Chinese and Greenland is American?

Torq
25 Dec 2025  #694

Hmm... this Trump's plan of creating a Catholic Belt in Europe might actually be quite reasonable. The Catholic countries in Central/Adriatic Europe (Poland, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Italy and Croatia) are still overwhelmingly white, Christian and orderly.

Western Europeans from the countries "culturally enriched" by third worlders are in total culture shock when they see how clean and orderly a Christian country can be...

tiktok.com/@agnewtravels/video/7537709684782894358

... it is even a Kulturschock für Deutsche...

tiktok.com/@kilian.kroh/video/7529610102916156694

Therefore, a belt of traditional European Catholic countries, resisting islamization, atheisation and kurvisation that we witness in certain Western European countries might not be such a bad idea.

But I would be really sad if we had to abandon Germany and watch them become an islamic emirate. How can we save them? That is the question!

Alien
25 Dec 2025  #695

kurvisation

Do you mean the construction of winding roads in Germany?

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2025  #696

Therefore, a belt of traditional European Catholic countries, resisting islamization,

.....why not go all the way back to our pagan roots, hmmm? :) Thats the most white, european culture/heritage there ever was...even Jesus was an middle easterner...

(Or maybe I watched to much "Vikings" right now, heh:)

Torq
25 Dec 2025  #697

Do you mean

You know exactly what I mean, Alien.

...why not go all the way back to our pagan roots, hmmm?

Paganism as a religion is...

a) false
b) boring
c) ineffective (all pagan empires fell)

Only traditional Catholicism works as the basis of long-lasting orderly civilisation - I know because I ran hundreds of simulations on AI. :)

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2025  #698

....I know because I ran hundreds of simulations on AI. :)

Well....when the AI says so....hmmm...🧐

*goes watching some more "Vikings"* episodes*

Alien
25 Dec 2025  #699

Well....when the AI says so

I've been working with AI for a year, it's as dumb as a brick.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2025  #700

Don't say that....she might hear you and go pouting!

Alien
25 Dec 2025  #701

might hear you

Maybe it will learn something... for example if you tell that in a car weighing 2 tons each of the four wheels is loaded with 0.5 tons and then ask how many wheels a car weighing 0.5 tons has, the answer will be 1 wheel.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2025  #702

...she...it.....will learn!!! Be patient... :)

Torq
25 Dec 2025  #703

the answer will be 1 wheel

If you ask stupid questions, you get stupid answers. AI of course realises that you're an idiot...

1

... but it does exactly what you ask it to do. :)

Mr Grunwald
25 Dec 2025  #704

But I would be really sad if we had to abandon Germany and watch them become an islamic emirate.

It is a sad conundrum, from one side of it turns into paganism (no matter how unlikely or short lived) will naturally turn to plundering, raids and antagonizing borders. One of the reasons to unify with Pagan Lithuania was to stop pillaging of Polish lands after all, I am sure of it.

Christian Germany also stirred trouble and is no guarantee from violent conflicts. Even conflicts with it's merchant class was violent (the conflict with Hansa merchants in Cracow). After all it was Protestant Prussia and Catholic Austria that partitioned Poland.

Islamic Germany might be best option sadly if beaten hardly in battle, seeing how Turkic relations developed with Poland after battle of Vienna. It is a sad reality that might come true that a Islamic Germany can be a better safety for Western Poland, that also will draw and potentially prosper from all the Germans fleeing to Poland that would not want to live under Islam. Creating a permanent allied population against Islamic Germany from expanding in to Poland. Seeking liberation of Germany long term that could lead to a situation like France helping out to free Spain. Creating a more stable future relations. No matter how badly one sees Islam in itself, I see more positives then negatives in Germany's case.

Then you got Atheist Germany that is doomed to fail and can only lead to permanent internal conflict which is ill advised unless Poland, France and great powers wish to keep Germany weak on a permanent basis

PolAmKrakow
25 Dec 2025  #705

So Zelensky says Ukraine would give up land if they have a referendum. They can hold a referendum on this but not elections? Ok. Makes complete sense.

Lyzko
25 Dec 2025  #706

Donbass and Donetsk lie technically aka historically in Ukrainian territory.
This is a situation analogous with Israel and Palestine; the Palestinians claim the Golan Heights for Arab lands, Israel claims same for historically Judaean lands.

Tacitus
25 Dec 2025  #707

Makes complete sense

It does. He has made it clear that referendum could only be held after Russia agrees to a ceasefire.

Meanwhile this year ends with a big and embarasing defeat for Russia

ISW: Russian milbloggers finally admit Ukraine's gains in Kupiansk sector and accuse military of misleading the top leadership

euromaidanpress.com/2025/12/25/isw-russian-milbloggers-finally-ukraines-gains-in-kupiansk-and-accuse-moscow-of-misleading-top-leadership-maps/

mafketis
25 Dec 2025  #708

They can hold a referendum on this but not elections?

Said they could have both, if there's a ceasefire.

The ceasefire being the operative phrase because if Ukraine tried to hold elections without one russia would attack polling stations and Cucker Tarlson and other shills would find a way to ignore or justify it...

So, nice try.

Novichok
25 Dec 2025  #709

Donbass and Donetsk lie technically aka historically in Ukrainian territory.

Szczecin was technically German. No more. Not even a referendum, just a very big fist...

if there's a ceasefire.

The US ceased fire after Japs were served two beautiful mushrooms for breakfast and surrendered. Ceasefire is what losers want.

Memo to Putin: Cease nothing until Western warmongers and their proxies are out of Russia - dead or alive...preferably dead, so they won't come back.

My daily reminder...

Kosovo referendum - very good

Crimea referendum - very bad

Lyzko
25 Dec 2025  #710

Szczecin was German-speaking Stettin.for centuries until annexed to the German Reich by Hitler, later taken "back" by Poland and re-named Szczecin.
Most Eastern European city names are bilingual in German and the native nomenclature.

Novichok
25 Dec 2025  #711

later taken "back" by Poland and re-named Szczecin.

Russia has taken Crimea and Donbass. Cool...

Torq
25 Dec 2025  #712

Szczecin was German-speaking Stettin.for centuries until annexed to the German Reich by Hitler, later taken "back" by Poland and re-named Szczecin

It never hurts to educate yourself. Therefore...

Szczecin was founded by the Slavic tribe of Wkrzanie at the turn of the 7th and 8th centuries on what is now Castle Hill. Initially, it was a typical settlement of farmers and livestock breeders; however, with the development of trade and crafts, it was transformed into a fortified stronghold. Later, Szczecin and surrounding Slavic areas were formally incorporated into Poland in 1121, and its inhabitants were converted to Christianity. Szczecin was a part of Księstwo Pomorskie and received city rights in 1243. German population started dominate in the city only in late Middle Ages. So it was Slavic/Polish since its foundation for about 700 years, then for about 450 years mostly German and since 1945 Polish again (80 years now). So we get about 800 years of Slavic/Polish history and 450 years Germanic.

And that's Szczecin - the westernmost part of Poland today. Everything further east is even more Slavic/Polish in heritage. Not to mention that Polabian Slavs (Wends) and other Slavic tribes had their ancesteral lands extending all the way to Elbe river...

Slavia

... Crow would of course tell you some kind of nonsense about them being Serbs, but they were basically proto-Poles.

So, if one day Poland went full-retard and started a Special Military Operation to regain all ancient Polish lands and restore Polski Mir, then practically all of former DDR would have to come back to their Polish fatherland. Lubin, Szczecin, Koszalin, Gubin, Radzin, Barcin and - yes - Berlin. All Polish cities and towns.

Of course, Polish SMO will never happen because we are a civilised modern European nation. However, Lyzko, don't be a retard and never deny the Polishness of all the lands all the way to Elbe River.

Lyzko
25 Dec 2025  #713

There's some disagreement there.
The same applies to whether Kopernikus was a Pole or a German

Torq
25 Dec 2025  #714

There's some disagreement there.

Only if you're historically ignorant.

The same applies to whether Kopernikus was a Pole or a German

It's Christmas, Lyzko, so I will ignore this blatant and disgraceful provocation.

Novichok
25 Dec 2025  #715

Polish or German...What matters is that it was taken by brute force. No referendum.

In that sense, Russians are Buckigham Palace grade gentlemen.

Tacitus
25 Dec 2025  #716

There's some disagreement there

The disagreements start where you pick a start date to support your argument.

The Romans have founded a lot of cities in Europe. Is Cologne an Italian city because it was founded by the Romans? Claiming a city as your own because it may or may or not have at a certain have belonged to a country or what qualifies as its' predecessor many centuries ago is stupid. What matters is what people live now there and how they identify.

Constantinople used to be a Roman city, now it is a Turkish city. Stettin used to be a German city and is now a Polish city. That is all there is to it.

Torq
25 Dec 2025  #717

In that sense, Russians are Buckigham Palace grade gentlemen.

For some reason unknown to me Soviets always cared for the appearances of legality of their actions. Russians inherited this trait from them. Still, the Donbas referendum was as legal and binding as a referendum organised by Mexicans in Texas voting for the state to come back to its Mexican fatherland would be.

What matters is what people live now there and how they identify.

Of course.

Stettin used to be a German city and is now a Polish city.

But it had been a Polish city before it was a German city, and now it is Polish again.

Lyzko
25 Dec 2025  #718

Quite correct, Tacitus. History is (usually) written by the victors.
@Rich,
Donbass is a Ukrainian-speaking region which was taken over by the former Soviet Union, obviously well before Putin!

mafketis
25 Dec 2025  #719

Soviets always cared for the appearances of legality of their actions. Russians inherited this trait from them

They're all about appearances without substance. Once you notice/realize that, it explains.... so, so, so, sooooooo much.

from vlad vexer (born in the ussr): "ussia's political system contains the destructive personality of a tyrant overtaken by boredom with governance, fear and persecutory anxiety, mystical obsession with history, and repulsive self-admiration"

x.com/VladVexler/status/2002439099852988878

Tacitus
25 Dec 2025  #720

Polish city before it was a German city, and now it is Polish again.

And before that the area was settled by Germanic tribes. Your point?


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