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Atch
30 Jul 2019  #271

Knew he had some distant Turkish lineage, Atch. Well, maybe a link to Turkish Jews then.

The Turks are on his father's side, the Jews are on his mother's. The Turks were secular Muslims who never really practised and definitely not after coming to the UK. His maternal great-grandmother was a Russian Jew.

Dirk diggler
30 Jul 2019  #272

The Turks from his side were the radical Muslims fighting against the nationalist secular Young Turks. Explains his fetish for the Koran and turning the UK into the United Kaliphate. I mean for ***** sake his first act was giving amnesty to tons of illegals

Atch
30 Jul 2019  #273

Well, Ali Kemal., Johnson's great grandad didn't do any fighting. He was a journalist and an academic, murdered by a Nationalist lynch mob for condemning violence against Armenians amongst others. He was actually exiled for his liberal political views under the Caliphate of Abdul Hamid - so put that on your needles and knit it.

Dirk diggler
30 Jul 2019  #274

Ah more cultural enrichment from germanistan - this time an 8 year old and mother are pushed onto train tracks. Naturally it was not a European who did this but an ungrateful turd worlder.

Lyzko
30 Jul 2019  #275

In Manhattan, New York, with more immigrants from the Developing World than Berlin, Duesseldorf, Hamburg or Frankfurt combined, of all the
pushing incidents to date, NOT ONE was committed by a Haitian, Hindu, Arab speaker or, for that matter, any recent arrival from a Muslim nation.

Most were committed by distraught locals, often terminal drunks or drug addicts, many African-Americans, also disenfranchised native-born whites.

Plus the "subway shooter" Bernie Goetz was WHITE, so there goes your theory down the toilet once again:-)

mafketis
30 Jul 2019  #276

the "subway shooter" Bernie Goetz was WHITE,

over 30 years ago....

The problem with migrants in Europe is that countries are not allowed to properly assimilate those from culturally alien chaotic and violent cultures... and (as shown nicely in the first season of Okkupert) Western Europeans will silently endure almost limitless dispossession and humiliation rather than admit that there is a problem...

Rich Mazur
30 Jul 2019  #277

...that and they are never mad at - or even mildly critical of - their rulers who oh so happily bring the "culturally alien chaotic and violent cultures" out of guilt or greed.

If there is place where 1984 will ever become reality it will be the UK and the Western Europe.

cms neuf
30 Jul 2019  #278

Or it might be a reality in Russia where political opponents are poisoned and demonstrators have their heads cracked. Where Big Brother is an ice hockey champion, a fighter pilot, expert horseman and deep sea diver.

There is even a Ministry of Information where young graduates waste their lives in the basement pumping out worthless trash about gay bathrooms and abortion laws, rather than sitting in the sunshine with a beer watching pretty girls.

mafketis
30 Jul 2019  #279

demonstrators have their heads cracked

the violent response was wrong, but they weren't protesting aggression against Ukraine or the government's feckless non-reaction to the Siberian peat fires or lots of other worthwhile causes - they were protesting not being able to get in on municipal government corruption (as explained by a Russian speaker of my acquaintance).... it was more like inter-gang violence rather than citizen protest...

Rich Mazur
30 Jul 2019  #280

Or it might be a reality in Russia where political opponents are poisoned and demonstrators have their heads cracked.

At least the Russians are men enough to actually demonstrate with all the risks that come with the activity.
As marketis just wrote, Western Europeans will silently endure almost limitless dispossession and humiliation rather than admit that there is a problem...
I couldn't write it any better. Spineless, gutless, ball-less human props.

Miloslaw
30 Jul 2019  #281

Western Europeans will silently endure almost limitless dispossession and humiliation rather than admit that there is a problem..

That is changing..... people have had enough.

or even mildly critical of - their rulers who oh so happily bring the "culturally alien chaotic and violent cultures" out of guilt or greed.

As I said above, this is changing now right across Europe.
People have had enough of the old establishment.
Expect many more political shocks right across Europe over the next few years.

Lyzko
30 Jul 2019  #282

Are you sure, Atch?
The reason I ask is that it's always been a sort of "bigot's chic" to (mis)credit a particularly unpopular individual with being either Jewish or of Jewish origin:-) As I said, Cameron was reviled by many throughout Britain, particularly by the Conservatives, especially Farage and Bojo. Who's to stop the other side from concocting some yarn about his great-grandmother, by harping a non-English-sounding family name and imagining it to be Jewish through spurious research?

Miloslaw
30 Jul 2019  #283

Are you sure, Atch?

Atch is right as she usually is when it comes to historical facts.

Rich Mazur
30 Jul 2019  #284

As I said above, this is changing now right across Europe.

Too late. The poison Muslim pills are already in and are not removable. As Dirk says, they will multiply a lot faster than the white career women can match. In fact. the whites, with their 1.7, are a dying breed, which would not be so bad since there is a bottom to that curve.

The problem in Europe and here is that the missing whites are replaced by the inferior races incapable of continuing what the whites have started and developed.

No, I don't want to hear about the predatory China, their spies and their thieves.

delphiandomine
30 Jul 2019  #285

Expect many more political shocks right across Europe over the next few years.

I'm not sure we will see them. The Greeks went back to what they knew with the conservative opposition, populists didn't do well in the EU elections, the socialists won in Spain, and all that seems to have really happened is that Europeans seem willing to vote for a broader spectrum of parties than in the past. The question now has to be Brexit - can Boris deliver it? We can agree that "semi-soft" Brexit is clearly out, so now it's the turn of Boris to have a go at pushing through a hard Brexit.

I don't think it's a bad thing to have a diverse amount of parties represented, too.

Rich Mazur
31 Jul 2019  #286

As long as their objectives are the preservation of their countries and culture. Anything else should require a legally binding referendum. Without it, it's soft fascism which is what the America-hating Democrat party here with their SA brown shirts - the Antifa - has become.

mafketis
31 Jul 2019  #287

The Greeks went back to what they knew with the conservative oppositio

The results of the previous elections were essentially nullified by Germany (which nixed any policy changes). Similarly the results of the anti-austerity referendum were not felt in policy terms... is Greece doing any better (at ground level away from tourist spots)?

When elections cease to have any real meaning in terms of policy.... that leads to stagnation and retreat into tradition.

Lyzko
31 Jul 2019  #288

@Milo,
She just sent me a link. Trust it'll prove to be instructive, and yes, Atch does a generally
solid job in researching her facts.

Once again however, remember the Cameron "fake news" and that allegedly Jewish great-grandma, surely in order to discredit him.
Merely words of caution:-)

Atch
31 Jul 2019  #289

Lyzko, people in the UK really don't care if somebody is Jewish (maybe a tiny bunch of nutters do but the general population doesn't). Nigel Lawson, Chancellor of the Exchequer under Maggie Thatcher was Jewish :))

Actually Lyzko, I think that the BBC link I sent you only deals with Johnson's paternal family. The Jewish link is on his mother's side. Her grandfather was this chap:

wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Avery_Lowe

Lowe was from a Russian Jewish family.

In an interview with the Jewish Chronicle years ago Boris said:

"I feel Jewish, when I feel the Jewish people are threatened or under attack, that's when it sort of comes out," he declares. "When I suddenly get a whiff of antisemitism, it's then that you feel angry and protective."

"I have some Jewish ancestry, but I'm not sure how Jewish I am!... I'm proud of it, very proud"

Lyzko
31 Jul 2019  #290

I'm in one-hundred percent agreement, Atch!

The examples you gave such as Lawson are only apt because they are such assimilated Jews with impeccably British-sounding names, that they don't stand out as ethnically "different", as would for example if his name were "Samuel Jacobovits" or something similar:-)

Benjamin Disraeli retained his surname, but DID convert to Christianity. Why? For acceptance among his gentile peers, of course.

Therefore, people indeed don't care whether somebody's Jewish or not...as long as they aren't publically or annoyingly identifiable as such.
Read in a major British newspaper a while back that in fact a certain posh Devon resort was being "taken over" (their words, not mine) by the Ultra-Orthodox, often dressed in full regalia, schreimels and all:-)

Let's just say, the latter were not named Nigel Lawson or even John BerkowLOL

Rich Mazur
31 Jul 2019  #291

The problem with Jews is that they care who is Jewish even if non-Jews don't. Their intolerance of non-Jews is off the charts, which is not say that it's a bad policy. But, let's just be more honest when discussing such matters.

The other problem is dual citizenship and suspect loyalties. Why would any government, including the US, hire anyone who is a citizen of another country, is beyond comprehension. Why run a risk if the natives are available?

Lyzko
31 Jul 2019  #292

If you'd suffered their history, Rich, you might show at least a smidge of empathy, if not full-blown acceptance.

johnny reb
31 Jul 2019  #293

We have ALL suffered one way or another rabbi.
What makes you so damn special ?
Look how the Polish suffered or the American soldiers and their families suffered/sacrificed to save as many jews as they could.
The jews owe us big time reparation for all we did to save their race.
Shall I stand by my mailbox and wait for my check ? lol
No, instead they try to punish us by riddling us non stop with their guilt trips.
Well I ain't going on your trip so you will have to go on it all by yourself.
Now stop, just stop with your daily whining PLEASE !

Rich Mazur
31 Jul 2019  #294

If you'd suffered their history, Rich, you might show at least a smidge of empathy,

I will bid higher than a "smidgen of empathy".
Not only do I support them - Jews, in general, and the Israelis, specifically. I wish, we, white Americans, were just like them with zero tolerance when threatened and full-on discrimination against people we consider lesser, un-melting, and a drag on our limited resources.

And, then, there is this beautiful wall the Israelis built. If I ever go to Israel, it will be to touch and kiss THAT wall if the IDF lets me.

Miloslaw
31 Jul 2019  #295

Not only do I support them - Jews, in general,

TBH some of your more recent posts have been too extreme for me.
But I agree with your support of Jews and Israel.
We could all take a leaf out of their book!

Rich Mazur
31 Jul 2019  #296

Leaf? I would hire them to run the US. Or Putin. Anything other than our domestic traitors.
Like, their border guys shot. They go for the ankles or the knees. It works like magic. Or spray them with skunk spit. Ours change diapers for the illegal bastards who were either rented or bought to perpetrate the asylum fraud even more efficiently.

BTW, me extreme? Maybe you are getting softer.

Dirk diggler
31 Jul 2019  #297

Land mines are even more effective and cheaper

Anyway you look at it Trump's immigration policy which was a cornerstone of his campaign was an utter failure

If you'd suffered their history, Rich, you might show at least a smidge of empathy,

They brought it upon themselves. They have only themselves to blame.

Kicked out of over 100 different places over rhe course of over 2000 years, yet it's never Jews fault. No everyone is anti-Semitic because they don't like usury or religious texts which encourage Jews to harm goyim, call non Jews cattle, non Jewish women ******, and say Jesus is in hell boiling in excrement.

Crow
31 Jul 2019  #298

Being western European toy, Poland is extremely lucky country because western Europe scatter and losing power. Therefore weaker grip on Poland and Poles. So I contemplated on this and concluded that God very much likes Poles and Poland.

Lyzko
31 Jul 2019  #299

Not entirely, Dirk ol' boy!

If you knew nothing but rocks being thrown through your windows in an enforced ghetto by others who sought to harm you,
experienced solely persecution and abuse for simply practicing a different creed, for being forced to conform to odd notions
merely to survive day to day, you would have to agree that we don't all suffer equally:-)

Crow
31 Jul 2019  #300

I`m going to sleep now. One prayer for Poland before sleeping. Just in case, to keep Poland in God`s mind.

But I agree with your support of Jews and Israel.

Finally one wise from you. Peace to Jews.


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