Rooshv - "Pickup artist" in Poland

Roosh is an abhorrent human being. He's come to Poland to take advantage of the fact that while it is mostly first world, and part of the EU, many women here are, very sadly, intrinsically driven to seek foreign men, whatever the cost.

Polish women spend significantly more on beauty products than many other nations - and sadly do so at the expense of their own education. Not saying that this is universal, there are some lovely educated Polish women, but there are many more materialistic idiots. Sorry to say, but many Polish women tend to age like milk, not wine...and I think that somehow, they've evolved around this. If they're stupid (more often than not), they're best to blow all of their money on appearance, marry, and then maybe divorce the man for good sum. If they're smart, they may manage to find true love, not based on a man's income or his primal momentary instincts.

Many Polish women lead very sad lives, and Roosh, as a predator, sees this.

From having read quite a bit today about Roosh and his activities, I'm pretty much convinced that it's an act, at least on his part. But that act has gone too far. I remember when he was merely a ******** artist that was selling books - but it looks like he realised that there's a considerable amount of money to be made from naive (and bitter) men that think in the way that he acts. All the stuff about going after feminists and so on - it all appeals to the "alpha male" image that he tries to project and wants others to pay to be part of his "club".

You're right that the real danger is other people, not him. He's far too much in the public eye (and always has been) to actually do anything himself, but it's enough for him to say "who is this *****?" and his loyal followers will do the damage.

If I wasn't at risk of a lengthy ban, I could go rather more into the subject about him and his links to another rape-obsessed piece of ****, but I can't...

Yes, exactly! Last year, a lonely, virgin, misogynistic and racist 22 year old student by the name of Elliot Rodger killed 6 people and injured 14 others in his bid to slaughter all the pretty girls who wouldn't have sex with him and their boyfriends in Santa Barbara, CA. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings

Rodger was a frequent member and follower of these pick up artist and MRA forums.

And even if most of Roosh's tales are fantasies, he obviously DOES have sex with/rapes women at least part of the time, and the guys who buy his books and seminars and go on this websites follow his advice blindly!

And @Jon357, I'm sorry if you feel my trigger warning was silly and appropriate only for sheltered American college students, but PSTD is a real thing and many women (and men) who have been raped or sexually assaulted have real reactions to listening to or reading descriptions of sexual violence. I wanted to be considerate of others.

Also, he doesn't tell the women he plans on having sex with his real name, so they can't google him or accurately report him to the authorities. Also, if you're a young woman (and he tends to target the really young ones 18-25ish) and you're at a club, and you're drunk, and you're insecure and don't really feel in control of your interactions with men (again, he tends to target these kinds of women, and this is also part of the reason why his whole philosophy is to go to countries where the women aren't "westernized" and "confident" and "assertive"), you will have a hard to time to report if he rapes you because you will blame yourself.

I agree that not all "westernized" things are good. I do agree that American women tend to be more masculine and b**chy than women in Europe and especially the further east in Europe you go. And I'm not in Poland super often, but yes, obviously I know that Poland is getting more and more westernized - some good, some bad, as with anything.

HOWEVER, has it ever occurred to anyone that women getting more b*tchy and assertive and feminist is a reaction to being treated the way Roosh treats women? Wouldn't you say that being more assertive and less trusting is a good thing for women to be if they are faced with and surrounded by men like Roosh? Roosh even said that Poland is becoming more westernized, and he was sad - he was sad about it because it meant he would have a harder time manipulating/raping women in Poland!!!

It will be a few generations in Poland before women here see their lives as their own. In larger cities, they've starting to get it, but not really yet. Now, it's a lot of futile grasps at status and what they perceive as control. Tattoos are catching on (really after the fact, as is all Central European "fashion") because some of the expats who travel like them, and it's a conversation point.)

Start teaching Polish women to value themselves. Teach them to be fit. Being with an expat is not the be all and end all (actually sucks, a lot of the time,as they've probably spent their money on makeup rather than books, and have just about nothing to talk about). Tattoo if you need, but not because you need to hide the fact that you can't be fit and healthy, and that you need to show everyone that being trendy supercedes all.

Is this guy the new Ross Jeffries? LOL

He made millions of $$$$ teaching NLP, very smart guy.

Roova seems like a dirtbag, living out of a suitcase, probably has a disease as well!

Well, apparently things are a bit different in Poland. I read yesterday this book, rather straightforwardly titled "Bang Poland: How to Make Love with Polish Girls". Apparently it's his only "tourist guide" that substituted "Sleep" with "Make Love". He notably had almost no success with girls that weren't single, and didn't really experience "one-night stands" in Eastern Europe the way he did in the West.

He generally made a lot of correct observations, and it's an interesting read from even a purely sociological perspective.

The fact is that women like sex too and they also go out to find it by going to clubs known for hook ups. They aren't "prey" and chances are they aren't particularly impressed by some self claimed pick up artist and to think this guy probably thinks he's hardcore because he isn't going to call her again, guess what bro, it was probably a fake number.

Careful. There's a huge difference between having sex with someone and raping them. I dislike the guy, but it doesn't mean that he rapes for real.

I can tell you one thing - if he really was living in one city like Poznań for 4 years, there's no way that he would stay anonymous. Most of these clubs are pretty small places, and any sleazy American acting like that would soon be found out.


This is rather the problem. It's not the talk of rape, it's the fact that he's put together a community of people who actually think that way.


Come on, the guy looks different. If he was genuinely as bad as he claims to be, he would be found within minutes in Poznań - there's only really around 4/5 clubs that people go to, and the city itself is tiny.

To me, the problem is rather that he's now headed down the path of appealing to a section of society that already feels bitter and rejected. He won't go around raping and forcing girls, but there are plenty of morons out there that will read his stuff and think "ah..so THAT'S how it works!".

Exactly.
Women get just as horny as men.
As much as this guy should be de-nutted after having his drink tabbed by some vindictive victim or set up with a woman with an

incurable strain of syphilis.............(paybacks are a b*tch sometimes).
I think this book is an excellent eye opener for women that go to these clubs just to get laid.
Just maybe this book will educate some of the younger females that there are some real sick dicks out there (pun intended) and HIV is very unforgiving even if you do say no.

And that is spot on. It's about his followers more than him (and after all, he almost certainly makes a lot of the stories up) and the damage that they can (and seem to want to) do.

"Yes, exactly! Last year, a lonely, virgin, misogynistic and racist 22 year old student by the name of Elliot Rodger killed 6 people"
Maybe because he was mad don't you think? Why do you bring feminist rhetoric into this?

Exactly. A guy like this could never get away with doing anything other than very very careful consensual sex - he's just so much of a target now that he could easily end up falling for someone trying to set him up. I'm pretty sure that he's actually in different locations to where he claims to be most of the time. I've looked at a lot of what he claims, and it's pretty obvious that he's not really in Poznań most of the time from his vagueness.

rooshvforum.com/thread-49969.html - this is an example. Nothing to do with Roosh directly, but rather a community of bitter men convincing each other that their women have to be obedient and feminine while using phrases such as "pump and dump".

???? "bring feminist rhetoric into this" What on God's green earth are you talking? We're talking about a serial rapist and PUA named Roosh V here, someone who is one of the leaders of a community of which Rodger was a part of.

And YEAH, he obviously was mad. That doesn't mean his actions are the least bit rational or excused. Hitler was mad. Ivan the Terrible was mad. An abusive parent is mad. Naomi Campbell was mad. People get mad for many reasons, justified and not.


When a woman says "No" for FOUR HOURS and you still manage to finagle your penis into her vagina - that's rape.

Having sex with a woman when you are completely sober and she is passed out drunk - that's rape.

In case you didn't read my original post, these are HIS quotes from HIS books:

EDIT: no need to duplicate the quotes

Seriously, Delphiandomino, I'm starting to wonder about you. Why do you keep apologizing for Roosh and downplaying his actions every chance you get?

Hi

What is the translation into polish of:

"American trainer, resident in Poznan since 2011, takes revenge on female journalists and their families"

Thank you so much

Don't translate it, people. It's part of an online war going on, and don't get involved.

Sounds like something the evil roosh has been doing.

it's not any online war, Michael. 1840 newspapers wrote last week about Roosh who takes revenge on female journalists and their families and spread their private pictures online.

Roosh is a polish resident in Poznan since 2011, and Michael is one of his right hands.

Everyone knows Michael that you are RooshV's employee, but do not worry: Roosh has destroyed the lives of so many people, that he will not forever get away with all his crimes. And you associating your name with antisemite Roosh and working for a guy who asked for rape to be legalized in 43 countries... is ... probably the end of your career Michael

Now that breaks the forum rules. Why is it still here?

Yes true, delphiandomine breaks the laws and the rules constantly. He is a danger because he works for a man RooshV that hates women and harasses them, does death threats on them, and rapes them

153.19.60.197 wrote :

Michael works for RooshV: the leader of an international community of internet weirdos who describe themselves as "neo-masculinists" - are planning to come out of hiding at their first real-life pro-rape meetings.

Anyone who is female, gay or transgender is strictly banned from attending the gatherings in 43 countries - including Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada and the US - this Saturday.

So-called "tribal meetings" are planned in eight British cities - including London, Manchester, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Cardiff and Glasgow.

The group has been branded as homophobic right wing women-haters.

Members of the creepy group of which Michael is a member - who have called for women to be banned from voting and rape to be legalised on private property - must recite a codeword before they are allowed into the meetings.

is that true Joanne? can u prove it?