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USA News and Poland - Part 4



Novichok
8 Jan 2021  #841

OK, let's look at the results. The civil rights movement made a huge leap forward. Black thugs saw what happened and will never play stupid resist games with the cops. The race-baiters had a field day. And one thug with a cramp in his neck and a long rap sheet is dead. I call this win-win.

pawian
8 Jan 2021  #842

I call this win-win.

Are you sure??? Have you read any pro analysis how that case and its effects influence Trump`s failure and Biden`s victory?

johnny reb
8 Jan 2021  #843

a goat`s ass is a trumpet.

You are blowing the wrong end fool, it's the goats horns that you blow.

Except that he was unarmed.

Previously Floyd served a five-year prison sentence as part of a plea deal on the 2007 charge of aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon.
You think the cops were going to take any chances in restraining him high on drugs.
After being arrested and found guilty at least nine times you would think Floyd would know what submit means.
You really need to get better sources before you post in this thread.
You sound like an idiot.

Tacitus
8 Jan 2021  #844

.... You are not seriously defending the murder of Floyd, are you?

He was on the ground, he was subdued, he was barely moving and he was still being choked. Maybe you can argue putting him in a chokehold was justified given the situation. But choking him like that for that many minutes is utterly indefensible.

johnny reb
8 Jan 2021  #845

.... You are not seriously defending the murder of Floyd, are you?

Guess you haven't heard yet, he wasn't murdered, he died of a drug over dose.

Novichok
8 Jan 2021  #846

You are not seriously defending the murder of Floyd, are you?

That question was not directed to me but I will answer it.

Floyd was not murdered. Murder is a legal term that requires a conviction in the court of law, not in your head.
That cop had every right to restrain that bum and be home with his wife and kids at the end of his shift, not in a hospital or the city morgue.

Sorry, JR. Couldn't resist.

he died of a drug overdose.

Did you notice how they always call it "accidental drug overdose"? Accidental would be if he reached for sugar and got arsenic because it looks just like sugar. That would be "accidental". Drug addicts should die ASAP.

johnny reb
8 Jan 2021  #847

When you have a rap sheet like Floyd did with NINE convictions the cops generally lose their patience with you.
Then you hear, "Wha da whye cop shoo my son fo, all he do is rob dat bank, dey gots los a bred."
He need liddle jingle fo chillin's sopote and a dime bag is all."

Novichok
8 Jan 2021  #848

Can you translate that crap into English?
I didn't know you are bilingual.

johnny reb
8 Jan 2021  #849

That is called Ebonics, Rich.

Novichok
8 Jan 2021  #850

I remember the times when they tried to make it a separate language in schools. I think that sick idea hatched in Cali just like all the other sick ideas.

Why when I say "aks" I am a racist? I should get a star for reaching out. I wouldn't get offended if they learn how to say, yes, officer.

Joker
8 Jan 2021  #851

That is called Ebonics

Actually it's all done by design. This is how the Dems keep the black population dumbed down and dependent on the government. Would you hire one of these geniuses to work and represent your company or let them answer you phone and talk to customers? I think not. A Burger King employee is what they are qualified for, but they dont want that job or any job for that matter, so food stamps for life it is. Im sure Biden will be more than happy to give them a raise like Obozo did and open the border so Pedro can come and take that Burger flipping job...

johnny reb
8 Jan 2021  #852

Aks me ma birfday.
Exactly, Rich.........why do uneducated Black people refuse to follow White authorities orders.
When a White cop says get out of the car the cop starts getting a raft of sht right from the get go.
If they would just get out of their fcking car and say yes sir, no sir showing some respect, like I do, they would be on their way.

But hell no, they are Black and the cop is White and Blacks refuse to take orders from White authority.
Even in restaurants and stores they refuse to show respect or have any manners if there is more then one of them.
That is the problem in a nut shell, they are the racists and don't even realize it.

mafketis
8 Jan 2021  #853

aybe you can argue putting him in a chokehold

If you watch the whole tape (and the not version edited to cause riots).... he was stoned out of his mind on a drug that often makes breathing difficult (and complaining he couldn't breathe before the police touched him).

He was also completely ignoring clear instructions given to him by the police. Training in that circumstance calls for subduing the person as quickly as possible (people in that state can and will do insane crazy things that endanger themselves and those around him with no warning).

The police called for medics and subdued him, assuming his complaints about not being able to breathe were more stoned ranting... the medics took too long to arrive and he ended up dead. A regrettable situation but not one that calls for massive civil unrest - unless you're a libertarian calling for legalized drugs and don't think police should be able to arrest anyone who doesn't agree to be arrested (the main claim of BLM is essentially that police should not arrest black people ever).

Velund
8 Jan 2021  #854

Pravda lied because they had to.

We have a joke here ... "Everything that Soviet propaganda lied to us for many years suddenly turned out to be true."

Bratwurst Boy
8 Jan 2021  #855

(the main claim of BLM is essentially that police should not arrest black people ever).

That's what I don't get....the police recruits from the population, not to mention that more and more people in uniform have a mixed heritage...that whole white-police-bad mantra by BLM is so ridiculous!

Someone should tell them that it's exactly these idiocies which will get them nowhere, they will never get the broad support they need with that Blödsinn....

mafketis
8 Jan 2021  #856

It's gotten them the US presidency.... so they're clearly doing something right....

Lenka
8 Jan 2021  #857

A regrettable situation but not one that calls for massive civil unrest -

I can't agree with that. Police has to use brains. Subduing is one thing but I don't believe keeping someone in chokehold is the only way.

Btw, I asked the question In Randon yesterday

Bratwurst Boy
8 Jan 2021  #858

It's gotten them the US presidency

I don't see them in the higher ups...they are even unhappy with Kamala Harris, not "black" enough!

They are as much on the fringe as the Maga's are...a presidency doesn't/didn't change that much. "Devil" Trump followed "Saint" Obama, there is a lesson in there somewhere...

pawian
8 Jan 2021  #859

they are the racists

Even in restaurants and stores they refuse to show respect

hahaha Poor whites, so rudely treated by blacks in restaurants, those nasty looks, those hurting words, oh my God, blacks are such racists, it is unacceptable. really.

Darling, you got what you wanted - who forced you to order, bring and buy black slaves in the past? Now you have to deal with their descendants. When you said A, you must say B, too. Isn`t it simple? Get mature at last and realise you must suffer the consequences of your actions.

Bratwurst Boy
8 Jan 2021  #860

....honestly, I think he is regretting that decision quite seriously. They all are. A US without the descendants of said slavery is a dream. They ARE regretting slavery!

What more can you ask for? :)

Interesting though that the US with all it's racism seems to be still better than going "home". Do you know about Liberia?

pawian
8 Jan 2021  #861

hey ARE regretting slavery! :)

Yes, but it is too late. The sins of their fathers will haunt the white race in America for ever. It is a generational curse.

Do you know about Liberia?

Yes, of course, but that was a failed project from the very beginning coz they moved blacks born in the USA back to Africa to live in the jungles again. That was crazy.

mafketis
8 Jan 2021  #862

I don't believe keeping someone in chokehold is the only way.

I'm sure police around the world could benefit from your advice.... there is a racial problem in that black people are far more prone than other groups from expiring from oxygen deprivation (there was a case in New York in the 1980s about that as well).. I think if they had him handcuffed (and maybe footcuffed) that would have immobilized him enough but would also have caused outrage.

I answered the question - short version. yes.

I don't see them in the higher ups...

the BLM riots were about putting Trump in a no-win situation... if he calls in troops he's a nazi and if he does nothing he doesn't care...

BLM (and Biden) were both merely tools used by the democratic establishment (along with the digitocrati) to put Harris in the office. She was clearly their choice very early on.

After her terrible debate performances caused her to stop campaigning before the first primary they chose Biden as the tool to get her in the oval office.

I cannot imagine the democratic establishment bending over backwards and moving heaven and earth to give the nomination to Joe Biden for any other reason. He announced his VP would be a woman of color because he knew she had already been chosen... (and he's even referred to her as 'president' more than once in public).

I report. You decide.

pawian
8 Jan 2021  #863

tools to put Harris in the office.

Why did they strive so much to do that, in your opinion?

Bratwurst Boy
8 Jan 2021  #864

(and he's even referred to her as 'president' more than once in public).

Maybe he will move over after two years and make her president....did that ever happen before?

mafketis
8 Jan 2021  #865

Why did they strive so much to do that, in your opinion?

My guess is they know they can buy her off and make criticism of her all but illegal since she's a "woman of color"

It's also political realignment (another post that would take waaaaaay too long) but the US is transforming from neoliberalism to digitocracy (where unaccountable digital oligarchs like Zuckerberg and Bezos actually wield power through "elected" officials).

The big scandal of the 2020 election wasn't even the open cheating during the popular vote. It was the way that digital platforms censored information (up to and including POTUS). they have no interest in the government providing services that aren't mediated through their delivery systems so the move to keep schools closed (even though remote learning is objectively ineffective and worse than nothing for most people) and defund the police.

This was all predicted (in general if not specific forms) by the great Polish philosopher Zygmunt Bauman (books like 'wasted lives' or 'liquid modernity')

This is also apparent on online platforms like twitter which censors covid 'disinformation' which would disrupt the narrative about the killer disease that requires lockdowns....

Also lots of politicians have been dropping hints that the vaccine won't end lockdowns...

Bratwurst Boy
8 Jan 2021  #866

My guess is they know they can buy her off and make criticism of her all but illegal since she's a "woman of color"

They could be in for a nasty surprise.....as is my impression for the BLM radicals she isn't radical enough by far. If they want a mouth piece they better look elsewhere...

A nightmare it could be, a female POC with quite rational beliefs appealing to a broad electorate...white, black, hispanic, men, women and all inbetween.

Just having a certain skin pigmentation should actually mean sh'it (politically wise)....

mafketis
8 Jan 2021  #867

for the BLM radicals she isn't radical enough

they don't care about BLM any more than they care for Joe Biden... they care about wielding power and that's what she's all about....

a female POC with quite rational beliefs appealing to a broad electorate..

She doesn't (and doesn't need to) appeal to a broad electorate or her own campaign would have gotten somehwere.... she appeals to the digital oligarchs...

pawian
8 Jan 2021  #868

they care about wielding power

LIke PiS. :):)
All in all, this is a corrupt system that Americans have. We need a new one. That is why, let`s sing altogether now: Anarchy in the USA!

mafketis
8 Jan 2021  #869

LIke PiS. :):)

If she were Polish she'd definitely be in PiS....

Joker
8 Jan 2021  #870

let`s sing altogether now: Anarchy in the USA!

And you really wonder why we all hate you, Paw? I hope the EU crumbles and you come crawling to the USA for help someday and we tell you to phuck off.


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