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delphiandomine
11 Jan 2021  #1021

Perhaps in the future his image will be removed from books

No no Maf. I hope Trump occupies a prominent place in future history books as a lesson to us all.

Serious question though - will he get any credit from historians in the future for his bull-in-a-china-shop approach to the Middle East/Gulf which seems to have worked pretty well? I notice that he seemed very reluctant to talk about it, but with the one exception of the Kurds, he seems to have done a pretty decent job.

Novichok
11 Jan 2021  #1022

Oh yes, I mourn for Trump. And I salute him to endure against despicable Rome.

OK, so now it's the Vatican, Rome, Garden, and a Sarmatian.

I mourn for Trump

We mourn the dead. Many wish he were, but he is still alive.

Here is my best advice for you. Write in Serbian and use google translator. You will be amazed at the results.

Joker
12 Jan 2021  #1023

will he get any credit from historians in the future for his bull-in-a-china-shop approach to the Middle East/Gulf

He should have received the Nobel Prize for that. If Obama could have achieved such success the fanfare would be fit for a King. The double standards and hatred for Trump blinds all his achievements. I know his big mouth was a problem, but he accomplished a lot.

Write in Serbian and use google translator. You will be amazed at the results.

Do they have a gibberish translator available? lol

johnny reb
12 Jan 2021  #1024

Twitter lost $5 billion in market value after Trump was permanently barred from the platform.
Trump should get severance pay from Twitter. lol

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1025

I hope Trump occupies a prominent place in future history books

Impeached twice and almost certainly heading for gaol unless some dodgy pardon happens; and even then, it's still very possible. He's already gone down in history as the worst one they've ever hard, and I suspect there's more trouble ahead.

his bull-in-a-china-shop approach to the Middle East/Gulf

A lot of that was down to MBS and the new guy in Qatar being ready for change; That and the growing strength of China (without whose permission nothing happens nowadays) and Iran both growing more powerful.

johnny reb
12 Jan 2021  #1026

the worst one they've ever hard,

You Marxist Commies keep promoting such propaganda yet a list of accomplishments side by side with Obongo Trump wins by another landslide.
In fact it isn't even close.
Trump's motto was 'Make America Great Again' which just infuriates you Commies that want to destroy America.
SO I say to you, jon, pis s off.

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1027

list of accomplishments

Hahaha.

Must be why the American people gave President Obama two terms and ditched Trumpet at the first opportunity...

johnny reb
12 Jan 2021  #1028

Shows you just how dirty and underhanded the media is to elect obozo twice.

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1029

the media

The voters...

I wonder what Trumpet's doing now.

johnny reb
12 Jan 2021  #1030

The voters...

No, the media was the main weapon against Trump

I wonder what Trumpet's doing now.

Why, he is of no concern to you.
I wonder what Boris is doing, same difference.

people gave President Obama two terms

And that is the irony of it jon, Trump accomplished twice as much in one term as obongo did in two terms.
Easy enough to google to verify.
You Marxist Commies are so jealous of thriving Americans and the strong dollar you will promote all your Marxist propaganda to try and destroy America.

I have to admit, the nose of the camel is now in the tent and America is well on it's way to a Socialist failure with Kamala and Pelosi at the helm.

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1031

No, the media was the main

The voters (who have a wide choice of news sources) decided.

I wonder what Boris is doing

Crying tears of remorse, hopefully.

Trump accomplished twice

Impeached twice.

Did Mexico ever pay for a wall?

mafketis
12 Jan 2021  #1032

The voters (who have a wide choice of news sources) decided.

The popular vote was rigged in a way that would embarrass PRI* but the electoral college vote was legitimate-ish, legitimate enough for Biden to be the next president (and I'm sure he'll do a crappy, crappy job). His appointment to head the civil rights division in the DOJ thinks that white people are spiritually inferior to non-whites for biological reasons....

*Partido Institucional Revolucionario, legendary ruling party of Mexico for many decades - known for its breathtakingly corrupt "elections"

Crow
12 Jan 2021  #1033

@Novichok

Eh you and your English. Like perfect English excludes one from debility.

pawian
12 Jan 2021  #1034

The voters (who have a wide choice of news sources) decided.

Why don`t Trumpists and rightists in general create their own media which would attract popular interest?

Ironside
12 Jan 2021  #1035

Hahaha.

MAGA!!!

The voters

Won't forget lies and BS of American commies, no way back to the way things were.

Why don`t

Why you and other commies here won't create your own PF - Lenin section?

Crow
12 Jan 2021  #1036

I have feeling Trump will continue to rule for many more years. Biden is his k***a.

Velund
12 Jan 2021  #1037

Amazon says it will SUSPEND donations to lawmakers who objected to Biden's victory certification, joining a growing list of firms

rt.com/usa/512209-amazon-halt-donations-republicans/

Witch hunt is already started...

BTW, looked Livejournal russian language ratings today. One of top "LJ Recommends" is a post from some russian speaking student in US that easily operate by terms like "trumpist bydlo" and similar. Comments turned off, you cannot rate this post - but it is in the top rated list.

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1038

Why don`t Trumpists and rightists in general create their own media

Fox, Newsmax and several others.

And some of them are still trying to pretend that the election wasn't the most carefully scrutinised in their history.

white people are spiritually inferior to non-whites for biological reasons....

Given some of the Jim Crow segregationists that have held office there over the years, it's not surprising that the opposite extreme has emerged. They've had plenty of examples set.

Amazon says it will SUSPEND donations

Since the storming of the Capitol, payment services have to be careful not to complicit in funding domestic terrorism. It's one of their existing laws.

Given the way their demographics are evolving, there could be a Democrat trifecta for the foreseeable future.

Tacitus
12 Jan 2021  #1039

Trump accomplished twice as much in one term as obongo did in two terms.

That is a good joke. Trump leaves behind nothing of substance, except a tax break that increased America's debts even when the economy was running well, and will have to be repealed to have any chance of solving the mess Trump left behind and let us not start with the utter failure that was Trumps "Foreign policy"... .

could be a Democrat trifecta for the foreseeable future

That would be commendable, considering that it will likely take a decade to fix the mess Trump and the Republicans leave behind.

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1040

Trump leaves behind nothing of substance

Yes, but thinking about it there are actually a few things of substance that Trumpet's left behind:

A strong China and Russia, a debt increase, a warning about the dangers of right-wing populism and of course the one good thing, a Democrat Trifecta.

Strzelec35
12 Jan 2021  #1041

who the hell are the oath keepers?

youtu.be/mlvo4ioB5P0

so how peaceful of a demonstration was it when they had a platform with a noose ready to hang mike pence. they should have tried hanging that woman of a da kamala harris for all the young men she hanged in her tenure.

mafketis
12 Jan 2021  #1042

it's not surprising that the opposite extreme has emerged

Not at all, but that's no reason to appoint someone with such views to a government position....

Velund
12 Jan 2021  #1043

payment services have to be careful not to complicit in funding domestic terrorism.

So they linked their services to vote that was made in Congress by particular politician. ;) Voted for Dems agenda - got the money. Voted for Reps - suck your own dick. Easy and so democratic... ;)

delphiandomine
12 Jan 2021  #1044

The popular vote

Maf, can you explain to us why the US doesn't have a simple ID card that can be used for voting with? It seems that it would solve so many problems if there was a single universal identity document that can be used to vote with.

When I vote here, I go there, hand over my ID card, sign my name on a list of voters, and that's it. No messing about, no need for additional documents, etc etc.

mafketis
12 Jan 2021  #1045

can you explain to us why the US doesn't have a simple ID card that can be used for voting with?

After you peel back the far right insanity (also found in the UK on the issue of ID) you'll find it dates back to the founding philosophy of the country. Originally the individual states were to take care of almost their own business and the federal government was restricted to a few basic areas (common defense, adjudicating conflicts between states, things like that). That's also the idea behind the electoral college (states elect the president not individual citizens) and the separation of the two houses - The House of Representatives are to represent the voters in their district while Senators are supposed to represent their states as a whole (and why each state has just two senators).

That's also why to this day there's no such thing as a US driver's license or US birth certificate (or marriage license or general professional accreditation) those are all the states' business and states mostly don't want to give them up.

On the other hand for adults driver's licenses are de facto ID (and generally honored in other states for most things). For those who can't/don't drive the driver's license office (in many/most states) issues ID cards on the same model... (but identified as identification cards).

You can see the different codes here for Florida:

flhsmv.gov/wp-content/uploads/new_dl_designated_colors_august2020.png

I remember losing my driver's license (misplaced, not as punishment) for a few weeks and tried to use my passport instead.... not an easy sell.

I do think there's no excuse for allowing people to vote without some form of valid ID but that's mostly a democratic issue. Now, republicans are more likely to want voters to show ID and democrats are against it.

My own position is that if you are so feckless/stupid/arrogant that you won't show ID to vote then I don't want you voting but democrats have been pushing for criminals* or undocumented migrants to be able to vote (for obvious reasons).

*traditionally being convicted of a felony was simultaneous with losing voting rights - democrats think it's awful that convicted criminals can't vote...

Joker
12 Jan 2021  #1046

Trump accomplished twice as much in one term as obongo did in two terms.

Of course he did and by this time next year the whole country will have buyers remorse after China Joe turns everything to $hit

That is a good joke

You still must be blinded with TDS. Should we post his list of accomplishments again? I can do it if you libtards will read it or just ignore the facts like you always do?

*Partido Institucional Revolucionario, legendary ruling party of Mexico for many decades - known for its breathtakingly corrupt "elections"

Im glad to see someone on this forum still has some sensibility. This election was rigged, a total farce.

delphiandomine
12 Jan 2021  #1047

Thanks for the detailed explanation! It explains a lot - I suppose a federal ID card would be seen as massive encroachment onto the individual rights of states.

I do think there's no excuse for allowing people to vote without some form of valid ID

It seems to me that it's a no brainer in every sense of the word. Of course, there shouldn't be any barriers to the ID being issued (hence why it should probably be federally-issued rather than state-issued), but you'd think with all the accusations and counter-accusations going around, mandatory ID when voting makes a lot of sense. There's no reason why it couldn't be done electronically as well if a system like Estonia's was developed, and certainly, an electronic vote linked to an ID card is much harder to falsify than a ballot paper.

jon357
12 Jan 2021  #1048

Voted for Reps - suck your own dick

Very few right-wing voters are that slim and supple or that well-endowed. What Generation Zers call "small dick energy".

also found in the UK on the issue of ID

The same. People just don't want one.

Just heard Pope is arrested over pedophilia and child pornography.

No you didn't.

mafketis
12 Jan 2021  #1049

it should probably be federally-issued rather than state-issued

A federal ID is a non-starter though theoretically it could be linked so Social Security Number (which is federal) but those are issued to people who aren't citizens (as are driver's licenses) so technically you'd have to include some kind of notification on a person's citizenship status...

Theoretically a voter ID card (issued locally and tied into a statewide system) would work. It used to be that you had to go to the supervisor of elections in order to register to vote (at which point you declare your party membership which is important in some primary elections). I think that could/should still work.

Does the UK have picture IDs? I remember (I want to say in the 1990s) how opposed many were to the idea. I even remember Joanna Lumley of all people going on and on about how opposed she was and how she wouldn't use it etc etc etc....

Novichok
12 Jan 2021  #1050

I suppose a federal ID card would be seen as massive encroachment onto the individual rights of states.

The experiment called the USA has run its course and it turned into a joke if you are looking at it from the outside or a disaster if you live in it. When the mobs control the streets just as the inmates control prisons, laws are not enforced or enforced selectively, and ammunition is next to impossible to buy, we know that the rot has reached the terminal stage.

With carjackings up 134% - all by black thugs - the violent mobs turned American cities into a jungle - just like the no-go zones of Europe.

Trump is out because, while impotent, he kept shooting his mouth off about the mobs and destruction he could do nothing about. The voters saw it, felt abandoned, and told him to get lost.

Next step: dissolve this non-country the USSR way or copy the iron-fisted Chinese model. Nothing else will work.


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