Polish convicted rapist attacks disabled stranger in London

Or perhaps appropriate that someone with a mental disability is properly looked after and enabled to lead a full a life as possible. Not beaten half to death in an unprovoked attack by a stranger, this person, a rapist and violent criminal then thrown under a bus.

Just sayin'...

You are not helping. I feel I need to take a ribbon from your hair nah nah nana.....

Indeed. Just to add:

The truth is that you couldn't care less about this dude. You only care about using this case to push your own xenophobic agenda.

It's important that people who commit terrible crimes like that are exposed and punished, regardless of nationality. There do seem to be a lot of Poles locked up in the UK and significant also that a chunk of the prison population in Poland were actually found in the UK by the British police after an IAW was issued from Poland, where the person had been roaming free prior to entering the UK.

Also interesting that if his victim is under the Court of Protection (which exists to ensure the financial wellbeing of the vulnerable) they will certainly have to claim damages - a lifetime debt for the perp...

Yes, your lovely Scotland for instance, plenty of Polish criminals over there.

Ironside, what's going on? I find myself agreeing with you here.

If there's any evidence of systematic discrimination against Poles in English courts, then Gregy, do something about it. It shouldn't be allowed to happen and I would be ashamed of the English courts if it is happening. Don't mouth off on PF - act!

it is..and quite shocking ..i told you i have friend who got locked for smashing glass..i know another who got stabbed in head.police didnt even investigate it.when he asked if they could check cctv on shop nearby where this happened,they responded that its too costly cus it would take them few days to go through cctv records.joke.

do you mean he was convicted and sentenced or that he got locked up in police cells?
Honestly gregy for someone who spent all those years in London, your posts are remarkably unclear.


you do hang around with some choice people don't you?

Equally I know a Polish guy who attacked a (black) man for no reason and got away with it at court....you must know that anecdotes are not data, surely?

Dude did it in front of people and cameras, it is "exposed and punished" to the limits already.


That's what your beloved EU is about. Don't like it now ?


Which debt ? This psycho will never have a job and will likely die in some fight when he comes across a guy with balls, either in prison or soon after leaving it.

he smashed cup while arguing with his GF in her place where he lived but officially was banned by court.he got locked in prison till court case,minor offence they wanted to bail him but cus he was living in place where he was not suppose to ,therefore no fixed adress they couldn't. bail him.so they kept him in prison till cout case hearing..bout 3 months


i worked as project worker for 2 years..for charity org..

oh OK my apologies...:D

yes NFA will often end up on remand, so will people who are considered a danger. I mean you might not know the whole story.

just a thought gregy but should you really be a charity project worker when you are talking about people with learning disabilities as 'idiots', who exaggerate their problems in order to get benefits and housing?

some are real some are crooks.social system massively abused.specially by those with "depression" anxiety and learning difficulties.here i can say whats reality out there..at work i would need to smile.

i dont work in social for years..sick of it

On this we agree.


If the Polish police were half as competent as, say, the Keystone cops, if Poland sorted out its 'justice' system. so many ifs and worth airing these current affairs like this creep's sentencing.


Plus risk of self-harm and if there's a serious risk of witness coercion. They don't like remanding people; it costs money.

i can imagine tbh, also drug addicts....you are a better person than I am for even attempting that job!
OMG Gregy, we might know each other ...:D

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Polish Men in Gang Attack in Hull

Absolutely horrible and disgraceful story.

A girl was brutally attacked in Hull by a gang of five or six men Polish men, who stamped on her head and back and inflicted injuries on her. They also attacked her boyfriend, while also viciously stabbing his father, who is still in hospital receiving treatment for his injuries. They attacked her because -


Cowardly, pathetic swines. I can only hope they get what is coming for them for such an attack.

not condoning this attack,
but delph,she doesnt even have a black eye..this father tho got some nasty injury"

polishexpress.co.uk/pilne-17-letnia-polka-brutalnie-pobita-za-to-ze-ma-chlopaka-anglika-jestes-dziw-a-ktora-zasluguje-na-smierc-uslyszala
and according to that info,she got hit in belly and guy "przydepna" her head,,that mean in polish that he merely put his feet on her head.

That makes it all hunky dory then...

Probably not the first time Poles libving in the UK have committed hate crimes against other Poles, but certainly rare to see arrests.

Yes, the 'omerta' is very strong in the Polish community, although the savagery of this attack is perhaps the reason why there were arrests.

Unlike here in Poland, where grassing people up (usually anonymously) is so commonplace that it is almost a national sport. I'm not sure it's an 'omerta' thing, more that it's mostly a young, male, poor and less-educated demographic who tend to avoid the cops as a matter of course.

no,but let them be convicted for what they done.you wouldn't like to be sentenced for grievous battery if you just bitchslapped someone,would you?

in polish language "nadepnac" means gentle stepping on something not some brutal jump or kick.
sure,stabbing this guy its another story

That happens very often - certainly including in Poland. Generally the CPS (or prokurator here) goes for the most serious they can get.

I expect it will depend on the evidence and credibility of the witnesses, the contents of a medical report, whether the accused are of proven good character or not and the skill of the lawyers on both sides.

Here are their full names and what they've been charged with:

Ernest Mariusz Bachowski: Affray.
Lukasz Chluba: Racially or religiously aggravated assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Thomasz Tchorzewski: Two counts of racially or religiously aggravated assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Wounding with intent. Affray.
Robert Tchorzewki: Two counts of racially or religiously aggravated assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Wounding with intent. Affray.

None charged with grievous bodily harm however wounding with intent is serious, as is affray, especially if they are not first offences. Any racial/religious factor makes it more serious in the eyes of the law too. The photos in the Mail show bruising to the female victim's face and apprently the older male victim was glassed.

Looks like two of them are from the same family.

(note to Mod, not a cut and paste)

some scuffle over a girl gonna get them 10 years each if convicted of racism aggravated offence. i remember those 2 polish guys who throw bacon at moscqe,they got 8 years prison for that.tho those were white guys attacked here ,so maybe not gonna be that bad

I doubt that will make any difference, however glassing someone in the street outside their house is quite serious. Whoever did that could have been looking at murder if they'd hit an artery. A lot will depend on whether the sentences (if found guilty) are concurrent or consecutive,

If the concept of Joint Enterprise were used, they could all be looking at the most serious charges. There will probably be a fortune in compensation due as well.

Serves them right, it's a crime to waste good bacon like that.

dunno,the bacon involved in this case was from Asda.better than any of them, from main supermarket ,but was it justified 8 years??!!

eight years? that is unduly harsh for some prank - they were drunk and harmed no one - that dumb,


who the hell knows what it was all about, some dumb pups in action... probably grew up in England.

ohh,,my mistake,they got 16 months each...
funny tho
8 months for religious hate and 8 months for "criminal damage" lol..wonder,what damage had prosecutor in mind..i bet he must have been bacon lover

buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/two-men-jailed-for-throwing-bacon-inside-a-london-mosque?utm_term=.hhJyyKL8X#.ekYAA3x5K

Fair enough.


The judge decides, and yes, it's certainly criminal damage.