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Novichok
24 Dec 2023  #361

Just be proud that you are both:::)))

Pride - the seventh and the worst of the deadly sins - follows positive personal deeds, not an accident of birth.

Short of deciding which side we would like to join in the event of war between the country of origin and the country of residence, there are less violent ways to test where we stand. When a US team competes with a team from Poland, whose side are you on? "You" is editorial and I am not asking you to answer this question.

Another good test is the flag test...Which flag, Polish or British, makes Milo's heart rate go up higher?

Przelotnyptak1
24 Dec 2023  #362

"The only reliable test to determine one's ethnicity is through DNA analysis. Milo's place of birth was not under his control and therefore his DNA would remain the same whether he was born in Poland or any other country. Therefore, it can be concluded that Milo is 100% Polish, and this is further confirmed by his heartfelt connection to his Polish roots. The same applies to you and your children."

Novichok
24 Dec 2023  #363

The same applies to you and your children."

One's loyalties and actions are not determined in a DNA lab. How I feel about events and people today has exactly zero connection with my DNA and everything to do with my experience and my memories. Without proof, I can state that the only country I owe my undivided loyalty to is the US and to the exclusion of all else.

During my US citizenship ceremony, I swore that it would be so forever and I meant it. All my future actions as a citizen and a father were consistent with that oath.

Przelotnyptak1
24 Dec 2023  #364

During my US citizenship ceremony, I swore that it would be so forever and I meant it.

Where is a logical connection? No matter how hard you try, how far off the track you wander, the fact remains that you are 100% Polish.

Sh*t, you could be my twin:::)))

Miloslaw
24 Dec 2023  #365

Just as you were born to Polish parents in the UK, mine were born to Polish parents in the US. They don't speak one word of Polish, feel 100% American

This is where I differ from your daughters.I understand and speak Polish,can read a bit but can't write in Polish.

As far as Milo is concerned, he is one hundred percent Polish; no ifs or buts about it.

Thank you Przelotnyptak1!!

If Milo is 100% Polish he is 0% British. He will not be happy to read this from you.

You are wrong on this one Rich.Geneticaly I am 100% Polish but I was born and grew up in England and yet have never been able to call myself English.

My passport says I am British, so that must be what I am.I have absorbed both cultures and as many like me, regard myself as an Anglo Pole.

Rich, 100% Polish by his DNA, 100% British by the place of birth. Just be proud that you are both:::)))
@ Przelotnyptak1

Thank you Ptak and Merry Christmas to you all!

Joker
24 Dec 2023  #366

Understanding and using a few basic words like Dobranoc and Dziękuję isn`t speaking a language.

Have you ever spoken with him? Do you know what FB messenger is? Stop lying about ppl in 2024 ok?

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #367

...the fact remains that you are 100% Polish.

If I were 100% Polish I would be indistinguishable from the first guy walking the streets of Warsaw.
He and I could not be further apart other than that DNA you put so much weight on that plays zero role in my life. I even asked the feds if they could change or hide my place of birth on my passport. They refused.

I know that for some weird reason, you are trying to squeeze that gene back into the bottle. Ain't gonna work... for at least one reason...My primary, everyday language is English. I think in English, I live in English, I talk to myself in English, and I speak only English at home to my wife and kids. In my house, there is not a single object that would connect me with Poland.

I self-identify as an American and use my Polish past only as a debating tool. The last oppo came up when I argued that accusing Putin of war crimes for his handling of Ukrainian kids was beyond moronic. I won that debate in seconds and left the accusers speechless.

BTW, this is the last post from me on this subject.

Alien
25 Dec 2023  #368

I think in English

Nobody thinks in a language, the brain does not need a language to think, the brain thinks conceptually, this is not yet fully explored. Only then do you automatically translate the concepts into some language for internal and external communication.

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #369

BS. Before we say words we think first what words to say. I never think in Esperanto or Chinese.
What language do you use at home?

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #370

Hey, Alien, when watching soccer Germany vs Poland...Which side are you on?

pawian
25 Dec 2023  #371

Have you ever spoken with him?

No, but I remember his own words a few years ago admitting to his zero Polish which he tried to excuse by unfriendly environment for Polish speakers in GB after the war.

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #372

About thinking in English...When I walk into a room with a flat object on four legs, I think "table", not "stół".
I get closer and see a stain... I think "oh, fvck, a stain", not " kurwa mac, plama".
That's what thinking in English means to me.

Przelotnyptak1
25 Dec 2023  #373

'BTW, this is the last post from me on this subject.'

Now, let's discuss why you can never be anything other than 100% Polish. Despite any protests or attempts to evade this fact, it will always remain true. You will forever be my blood brother and it is unbecoming of you to contort yourself like a pretzel."

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #374

Memo to "You Are Polish" morons:

A Polish couple in Warsaw has twins. Twin 1 stays and lives in Poland till he is 80. Twin 2 gets adopted by a an American couple and moves to the US the day after birth.

To a "you are Polish" moron, Twin 1 = Twin 2 because both were born in Poland to Polish parents. To that moron, nothing else matters.

Przelotnyptak1
25 Dec 2023  #375

"I acknowledge that you have requested me to remember the following text:

'Twin 2 because both were born in Poland to Polish parents. To that moron, nothing else matters.

There is more twisting in the pretzel. In any case, the example has nothing to do with you; you still are 100% Polish, and so are the twins.'

Please let me know if you require any further assistance."

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #376

the example has nothing to do with you; you still are 100% Polish, and so are the twins.'

...Twin 2 who does not speak Polish, has no loyalty to Poland, will fight on the US side in a conflict with Poland, has no Polish friends, doesn't read Polish books and newspapers,...is, according to the "DNA is the only thing that matters" morons, Polish.

Ptak, you are one of those morons.

US vs Poland in soccer...Which team do you root for?

Alien
25 Dec 2023  #377

US vs Poland in soccer...Which team do you root for?

🤔 both.

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #378

You are a liar and an evasive Euro bootlicker. You are also a lousy German.
German root for Germans.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2023  #379

🤔 both.

Yeaaah.....how should that go when both teams play each other???

Alien
25 Dec 2023  #380

when both teams play each other???

Then you should watch it without showing any emotions so as not to offend anyone.

pawian
25 Dec 2023  #381

you should watch it without showing any emotions

The best is to fall asleep. :):):)

Alien
25 Dec 2023  #382

fall asleep

It's already happened to me.

Przelotnyptak1
25 Dec 2023  #383

About thinking in English...When I walk into a room with a flat object on four legs, I think "table", not "stół."

Your DNA did not change one iota. Your thinking is just thinking.

Przelotnyptak1
25 Dec 2023  #384

Ptak, you are one of those morons.

Wait, let me guess, you are the enlightened one? ::::)))

US vs Poland in soccer...Which team do you root for?
@ Novichok

Underdog of course:::)))

Alien
25 Dec 2023  #385

Before we say words we think first what words to say. I never think in Esperanto or Chinese.

This is not for this forum, but our mind works with concepts and you just translate these concepts into your own language as you want to say them. For example, a Chinese person would be able to tell you telepathically that he or she is thinking about a table without saying the word table because he or she does not know it.

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #386

Then you should watch it without showing any emotions so as not to offend anyone.

...you should come here and say this moronic crap to the guys who watch Cubs or Bears. Or go to Green Bay in Wisconsin and tell the locals to turn into Euro eunuchs and not show any emotions when their team wins big.

without saying

I said:

When I walk into a room with a flat object on four legs, I think "table", not "stół".

Did you notice "think"?

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2023  #387

Then you should watch it without showing any emotions so as not to offend anyone.

...you showing no emotion during a football match will surely offend lotsa people (on both sides) !

:)

Novichok
25 Dec 2023  #388

Hey, BB, why did you let that idiot in? If Germany and Poland were at war, he would show no emotion so as not to offend anyone.

I didn't know Euros could be that stupid...

Bratwurst Boy
25 Dec 2023  #389

.....but.....but....he is an ALIEN!!!! How could we not?

Alien
26 Dec 2023  #390

you notice "think

Yes, your eyes see a table and you call it that, but your brain sees a tabletop with 4 legs just like the brain of every other person in every country in the world. Imagine that as an engineer you see a table with a completely different design, e.g. a triangular table on wheels, which you have never seen before, but your brain has already "learned" it the moment you see it. And your task as the owner of the brain will be to find what such a triangular table on wheels is called. Sorry, but I can't explain it to you better.


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