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IF EU let refugees to Europe



Dougpol1
20 Sep 2015  #601

Our focus is the Ukraine.

Very bad situation there for many. But they have water, food and shelter. When you are walking along a motorway in the blazing sun trying desperately to get from A to B with screaming kids, you have none of these.

Ever tried it? I have...... bike failure in Naples (without the kids:). That was only eight km (the Italians love to fence everything off, so I couldn't just get off the motorway) but it was hell. Nothing like a refugee experience of course :) An Auchan hypermarket was open and waiting at the end of the hike.

johnny reb
20 Sep 2015  #602

There would be no problem in the EU if we were only talking about the 30% of the invaders who are actually refugees.
Sort them out, take in the 30% of the Syrians that are coming from a war torn nation that actually qualify as a "refugee" and

sent the others back from where they came from.
The Muslim non refugee invaders are making it very difficult for their brother Muslims to escape a hell on earth who are only looking for safety, food and shelter.

Seems the Muslims who practice Islam, the religion of love and peace, is anything but that as they sure the hell show NO COMPASSION or respect or love for their fellow Muslim brothers and sisters looking out only for their greedy a$$es.

Take one of the wealthiest Muslim countries on earth, Saudi Arabia, and how they are helping out.
Do they know something we don't know about these people ?

As Saudi Arabia continued to face criticism from world leaders for not taking enough refugees fleeing war in Syria, the news station TeleSUR discovered that the nation has more than 100,000 empty air conditioned tents that could be used to house refugees. The tents, used only a few days a year in the town of Mina for Hajj pilgrims, were not being used, as the nation's leaders continued to insist they are doing all they can for refugees.

I am sure if the Saudi's gave them a place to sleep that the West would be more then happy to donate their food.

The non refugees invaders may even learn some manners while staying there.

smurf
20 Sep 2015  #603

As Saudi Arabia

Well done on doing some really top rate investigations my friends.

Saudi Arabia has taken in 2.5 million Syrians since the conflict broke out in 2011 and has been providing them with health care, education and access to work

sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/09/19/saudi-arabia-has-taken-25m-syrians-claims-minister

Let me explain...please read this slowly, it might be difficult for you to understand.
Saudi Arabia and many Mid East countries never signed the UN Geneva document, therefore when what we westerners call 'refugees' enter those countries, they are not labelled as refugees they are just seen as visitors.

Keep up the swell research buddy.

johnny reb
20 Sep 2015  #604

Let me explain...please read this slowly, it might be difficult for you to understand.

Now your turn to read slowly to counter your top rated research that the Saudi deputy minister for multilateral relations told reporters which makes it written in stone (according to Smurf) that Saudi admits of not allowing any refugees in their country, just visitors.

Did you read the link with it that counters your claim ?
sbs.com.au/news/gallery/which-arab-country-has-room-three-million-refugees-and-has-so-far-taken-zero-according-un

Next time read the whole article.
Class dismissed for you today buddy.

Grzegorz_
20 Sep 2015  #605

Why bring religion into it?

Perhaps because guys blowing themselves (and others) up and cutting heads off usually belong to a certain one... Dude, even you are not that stupid...

nothanks
20 Sep 2015  #606

This situation is such a circus on so many fronts, you don't even have to bring religion into it. You can't allow people free entry into Europe and furthermore allow them to roam like cattle.

Wait til the Thousands of new terror cells start engaging.

syrian93
20 Sep 2015  #607

PowerShakher, which country are you from ?

Arabs have an extremely dirty mind, they think that every non Muslim has to die, and they are superior to all races

you are mixing between religion and ethnicity .

nothanks
20 Sep 2015  #608

Social Engineering 101: How To Make A Refugee Crisis

journal-neo.org/2015/09/13/social-engineering-101-how-to-make-a-refugee-crisis/

PowerShakher
21 Sep 2015  #609

I'm not mixing religion and race, I was more than clear that Islam+Arabs=death to everyone "unbelievers". There are a few non-Arab Muslim countries which do not adopt this philosophy, such as Malaysia, Indonesia..., which clearly states that there is nothing wrong with Islam but the nasty Arab race

I'm from Morocco, and I hate it do the bone, land and people all together. I'm racist and I know it and I'm perfectly happy with that, probably the first ever racist person against his own race. I have had enough from these evil creatures.

syrian93
21 Sep 2015  #610

Islam+Arabs=death to everyone "unbelievers"

aka "al mawt li al kouffar" ;) , i have lots of syrian friends who are 1- arabs and 2-muslims , i am an atheist thus an unbeliever, i openly make fun of religious beliefs and the prophets in front of them , no one tried to kill me and they laugh along , and i know for sure that non of them believe that unbelievers should be killed :) , on the contrary most of them (if not all) agree on how the west is more civilized (in comparison) to syria, maybe the situation is different in Morocco , because as you know, "Arabs" is a broad word , and arabs do differ from one country to another..

Those who are aiding the rebels should welcome the refugees and stop demanding others do so for them

I agree

and perhaps Turkey

syria had good relations with turkey before the start of the "revolution" , but after the beginning of the protests, it went really bad, turkey is the number one accused country in this situation because it's through its boarders that foreign terrorists pass to join ISIS

gumishu
22 Sep 2015  #611

To the majority of them, other religions are bullshtt and there's is divine revelation and the fact that western europeans are so willing to accomodate them is just proof of how right their religion is

you are a voice of reason here mafketis

gregy741
22 Sep 2015  #612

LOL.stupid Merkel lost the plot totally:
youtube.com/watch?v=AKPXNaVwwfA

Europe is responsible for terrorism in middle east,cus Europe Muslims go there to fight,therefore europe must accept islamisation. woman "logic"

Dougpol1
22 Sep 2015  #613

arabs do differ from one country to another.

As do "christians" such as Hungary's present mob, sanctioned by America, and we British, whose grandfathers would be amazed at the ingrates after the events of 1956.

I urge Brits everywhere to boycott Hungary and not buy their ex communist products. Their wine is **** anyway and their river is polluted.

Its the countries that are aggressively trying to topple Assad that should take the refugees

We can only guess who you really are - but your moniker is well-chosen.
I care.
Assad is a tyrant like his father before him and needs the Saddam treatment asap. His "British" wife also.
We (that means Poland too - as it is part of the Royal "we") are faced with an ongoing humanitarian crises with winter fast approaching.

The Assads are responsible for what we are faced with, and British educated too. The UK establishment must be held to book.

nothanks
22 Sep 2015  #614

so EVERYONES fault except the people of Syria. Got it

Dougpol1
22 Sep 2015  #615

Got it

Glad to fix it for you.

Wulkan
22 Sep 2015  #616

I urge Brits everywhere to boycott Hungary

Good, that should bring the opposite effect.

Europe is responsible for terrorism in middle east,cus Europe Muslims go there to fight,therefore europe must accept islamisation. woman "logic"

Yep, Merkel seems to be losing her plot, It's quite embarrassing that she had a Polish grandfather.

nothanks
22 Sep 2015  #617

"However, Mr Gabriel joined Mr de Maizière in attacking EU countries opposed to accepting more refugees, warning of "devastating" economic consequences of a failure to reach a deal."

70 years later, still threatening Polska

Germany is absolutely SCREWED

"British Prime Minister David Cameron said the UK will take up to 20,000 Syrian refugees from the camps on the country's border over a five-year period.

"It is absolutely right that Britain should fulfill its moral responsibility to help those refugees just as we have done so proudly throughout our history," he said. "But in doing so we must use our head and our heart by pursuing a comprehensive approach that tackles the causes of the problem as well as the consequences."

Britain's strategy to help would most certainly not include taking in migrants who are already in Europe, however. Doing so, he said, would only encourage more migrants to come.

"Claiming asylum must not be viewed as an easy means of settlement by those who are not actually refugees," a spokesperson at the UK's Home Office told The Daily Mail.

"That is why the UK is focused on resettling genuine Syrian refugees directly from the region. This will ensure we are taking in the most vulnerable people and deter people from attempting the perilously journeys which have already led to so many tragic deaths."

Gaddafi: there are millions who could come...

And here is a selection from Gadaffi's final, prophetic speech, made the day of his brutal murder.
"Now listen you, people of NATO.

You're bombing a wall which stood in the way of African migration to Europe, and in the way of Al Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You're breaking it. You're idiots, and you will burn in Hell for thousands of migrants from Africa and for supporting Al Qaeda. It will be so. I never lie. And I do not lie now."

af.reuters.com/article/cameroonNews/idAFLDE7260W420110307?sp=true

Polonius3
22 Sep 2015  #618

resettling genuine Syrian refugees

This is the view of one 63-year-old Michiganian (MA in anthropology) which I have never heard before. Whaddya think?

"Why is a war between 2 factions of Moslems the problem of the Christian West? I could sort of understand temporary housing in refugee camps until the men among them could be trained militarily, and with our weaponry, go back and regain their territory. The rest remaining in the camps could then return home. We then send Saudi Arabia the bill. Problem solved!"

nothanks
22 Sep 2015  #619

This is spot on, I do not see any issues.

Unfortunately Germany has backed itself into a corner with the holier than thou approach. As soon as they attempt to force out Non-Refugees, the same media that gave them fellatio will return to labeling them Nazis.

Polsyr
22 Sep 2015  #620

a war between 2 factions of Moslems

Downright stupid analogy. You shouldn't listen to this idiot.

jeden
22 Sep 2015  #621

I urge Brits everywhere to boycott Hungary and not buy their ex communist products. Their wine is **** anyway and their river is polluted.

Said by englishman. Is rather funny that person from country where food tastes like ****, speaks about wine and cuisine.

Avalon
22 Sep 2015  #622

Downright stupid analogy. You shouldn't listen to this idiot.

Perhaps you could give us the benefit of your wisdom and explain your version of the events that led to the war in Syria.

jeden
22 Sep 2015  #623

Assad is a tyrant like his father before him and needs the Saddam treatment asap. His "British" wife also.

Assad was the only man who keeps this mess in order. Ofc there were no western democracy in Syria, but there were not christian genocide too.

johnny reb
22 Sep 2015  #624

"Why is a war between 2 factions of Moslems the problem of the Christian West?

Downright stupid analogy.

I think it is a very good analogy since these people have been at war with each other constantly for the last 1600 years.
Let them kill each other and hopefully such a low intellect of an uncivilized gene pool will be eradicated without involving civilized western countries.
And before you jump on me about uncivilized......just look how they treat their women, cut peoples heads off, use their bare hand to wipe themselves after taking a crap, sexing little boys and girls, blowing themselves up thinking they will be rewarded with 72 virgins....no need to go on.

NO COUNTRY in the whole world wants them for some funny reason !

Polsyr
22 Sep 2015  #625

your wisdom

Not wisdom, but experience from living there.

After 40+ years of dictatorship combined with steadily worsening conditions (economy, human rights, education, corruption, health care etc) the Syrian people decided they had enough. They went out on the streets to demonstrate peacefully, and were met with utter brutality by the regime. Live ammunition was fired against the very first peaceful demonstrations. I personally know people that were killed, injured or detained. Days later, bodies of detainees that were killed under torture started coming back...

Some people decided to fight fire with fire, while several foreign parties (eg. Qatar, Saudi, Turkey, Iran, Russia) saw an opportunity to manipulate things to achieve their our geopolitical goals - so they sent weapons and sometimes fighters to various sides of the conflict. Qatar, Saudi, and Turkey directly and indirectly supported Islamic radicals (even recruited them from abroad and sent them to Syria), while Iran and Russia supported the regime of Assad. The rest of the world turned the other way as the average non-combatant Syrian got crushed between the fighting parties.

Here is a very good video that explain the conflict. This is the most honest and factual effort I have seen about this subject so far. youtu.be/RvOnXh3NN9w

It is worth knowing and highlighting here three important facts:

1. The conflict is not caused by anything related to religion (in fact, there are Syrians of every sect fighting against Assad but they are largely forgotten by the media because their existence does not serve the agenda of any foreign parties). The sectarian violence is entirely exported to Syria by foreign parties.

2. The average Syrian (regardless of faith/religion) does not give a poop about religion. Syrians are some of the least religious people in their neighborhood. The average Syrian Muslim drinks alcohol and only goes to the mosque during special occasions (like Eid, twice a year). Syrians have been some of the most tolerant people on Earth, and they have absorbed and assimilated severals waves of migrants and refugees over the centuries, including Armenians (Orthodox), Circassian (Muslim & Orthodox), Turkmen (Muslim & Orthodox), Lebanese (Muslims & Christians of all sects), Palestinians (Muslims & Christians of all sects), Iraqis (Muslims & Christians of all sects), Kuwaitis (Muslims of all sects), Cypriots (Orthodox), Kurds (Muslims & Christian of all sects), Yugoslavians (Muslims & Orthodox) and this is just in the 20th century and only counting migration/refugee waves that included over 100,000 people. Before the conflict started, there was more than 1.5 million Syrians of Armenian ancestry (meaning 7.5% of the total population) and over 1 million Syrians of Kurdish ancestry. Syria was a multicultural country long before the west even talked about multiculturalism.

3. The majority of the fatalities of the conflict in Syria are Muslims, and the number one killer is the regime of Assad (which is responsible for about 93-94% of all fatalities). The regime of Assad targets people of all faiths, but more victims are Muslims because more Syrians are Muslims (about 58% of all Syrians identify themselves as "Sunni Muslim").

gregy741
22 Sep 2015  #626

The conflict is not caused by anything related to religion

pure garbage ..people not buying this c.rap anymore...yea"pacefull religion" my ass..almost in every country around the world,where muslim are present there is conflict or violence.almost every terrorist org.in world are muslim.save ira and eta

no...its not foreign imported...its in your backward 7-th century mentality...not assad,not USA...muslims kill each others and everyone since around 1000 years before USA even existed.go sell this sh.it somewhere else.

Syrians have been some of the most tolerant people on Earth

hahahahaha...christians in syria killed everyday.fu..what a garbage

Syria was a multicultural country long before the west even talked about multiculturalism

and now we see, multiculti at work.we dont want this s.hit in Poland...go hell

Roger5
22 Sep 2015  #627

Pearls before swine.

Polsyr
22 Sep 2015  #628

pure garbage

And how long did you live in Syria?

White Europe
22 Sep 2015  #629

We (that means Poland too - as it is part of the Royal "we") are faced with an ongoing humanitarian crises with winter fast approaching.

This is exactly the same kind of rhetoric that was said in 2003 about Saddam Hussein. How did that regime change work out? Polsyr said most Syrians are not very religious Muslims so the secular Assad is a much better fit for them than ISIS. It sounds like your idea of "solving" the humanitarian crisis is relocating 90% of Syria's population to Europe and letting the rest fall to religious fanatics.

gregy741
22 Sep 2015  #630

And how long did you live in Syria?

man,,even if this conflict is foreign orchestrated ,still doesn't change ethnic and religion related violence...only show what failure is multiculti idea.as soon as trouble came from outside ,people kill each other over minor cultural differences , instead unite.

same was in Poland with Muslims...who were given nobility status,lived for hundreds years but attack Poland as soon as ottoman armies come.and jews who started massive collaboration with Bolsheviks when they attacked Poland.


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