IF EU let refugees to Europe

good joke. In a country with 7 mil people, we already have more then 1 mil. forcible displaced Serbs from other parts of former Yugoslavia, victims of NATO/Islamic league/EU invasion and Civil War.

But, being historically familiar with fate of a people in refuge, we Serbs have understanding for Syrian agony. So we provide food and drinks to refuges, shelter from weather so that they can rest.

Official data speaks about less then 100 Syrians that got Serbian assail and that there are new 500 requests for Serbian assail. Media even speculate that, due to EU schemes (mostly Hungary`s) we needs to prepare ourselves to accept at least 10.000 refuges.

i really think bad about western Europe and USA. They created crisis. Let them take care of refuges

Then what is the reason for the others to try and get into Europe? It can only be financial.

Which countries hand out benefits like that? Most countries look at household income, and countries such as Sweden expect people to get into work and won't hand out cash to people that aren't working.


I think we need to differentiate between Syrians and others, too. I have no issues with Syrians looking for asylum here, but I object entirely to economic migrants.

No I am not.

I am saying the vast majority of Muslim families have 4 or more children and in the vast majority of Muslim households the woman does not go to work.


The UK.

Here we also look at household income and if the income is below a certain threshold, or to be more precise, if the DECLARED income in below a certain threshold then that family will be entitled to certain benefits.

We currently have a system where the government pay a weekly amount for every child you have. For certain cultures this has become a very good reason to have plenty of kids and not work. Thankfully, Cameron is capping the benefit threshold at 2 children at some point in the future.

The UK also "expects people to get into work"

I won't agree or disagree with that statement because I am not an expert on the subject.

But keep in mind, ANY immigration program without a proper INTEGRATION program is set to fail. Can we agree on that?


This dude is smoking something ya'll.

Besides the absurdity of your above statement, are you saying that civilians (including children) are expected to confront the weapons used against them by Assad (including fighter jets, helicopters, tanks, rockets and artillery) with their bare hands?

Comments like this seriously mock the human tragedy that is happening!

Just over a week ago, Jean Claude Junker, one of the EU presidents, announced that places for 60,000 asylum seekers would be shared amongst the 28 member states. Yesterday, Donald Tusk, yet another EU president said that 100,000 places had to be found.

BBC news tonight has stated that in a speech to the EU parliament next Wednesday, Mr. Junker will ask that places are found for 160,000 refugees. So, it has gone from 60-160,000 in a week. I suppose this means that on a pro-rata basis, Poland's allocation will have gone from 2,000 to 6,000. It will be interesting to see what figures the EU can come up with by the end of this year.

It makes no odds to me, I am not a Polish taxpayer. I was wrong on my last post, latest news from a leaked document shows that Poland will get 10,493 to support. Of course, EU citizens will be asked if they want this.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3220885/EU-draws-emergency-plan-relocate-160-000-stranded-refugees-continent-Britain-ZERO.html

Tut tut. And there you were, offering us the benefit of your hindsight. And all the time you were being the hypocrite. The rest of us are Polish taxpayers, and demand that Poland starts pulling it's finger out and that politicians start saying the right thing, and to hell with their silly little racist "havens" that might de-select them.

And the premiers' statement that Poland would originally take 60 Christian families would surely be actionable if a non political public figure said it, in a normal country like the UK anyway, with its' racial equality laws.

Poland and it's politicians = filth. It makes one suddenly feel ashamed to live in such a "nation." I am seriously considering removing my tax liability in this country to an absolute minimum and sign off in the UK instead.

Hindsight? that is the past. I cannot change the past, I am only interested in the future. I pay my tax in the UK and as they seem to like wasting my money, I live here. Junker and Tusk earn in excess of 500,000 euros + expenses per year. They have private healthcare, the use of many properties/palaces. They will never live in the areas that these refugees will be located. They will never have to wait for a hospital place. They will never be exposed to TB infections and neither will their children/grandchildren. They will never have to travel on public transport.

They have security protection so will never experience being a victim of crime. All these delightful things will be shared amongst the Polish working classes who already suffer from cuts in services. Another 7,000 teachers will lose their jobs over the next year but the classrooms can handle another few thousand children that do not speak the language. Of course, the Polish teachers are all fluent in Arabic, Farsi, Urdu etc, so there should not be any problems. I feel sure the Polish budget will be able to adapt to this small expense.

Don't be silly. There is no austerity here. For example, there are buses to every little street in Gdynia here. EVERY street. In every glacial valley, of which there are many , as you would know if you have ever been to Gdynia. I am not joking. The buses mostly run empty for a good part of the journey.

Polish working class? Ex-miners at 50 get 4,500 zl a month, while retired doctors at 65 get 2,300.

You really couldn't make it up. Communism lives.

And in the meantime, Poland has proved itself again to be a racist country politically speaking with the comments from the establishment on the refugee crises. Consider yourself very proud tonight to be Polish, if you want to fool yourself that is.


No - EU grants would pay for a percentage of the costs of hiring and so on, and anyway quotas would be agreed based on GDP if logic prevailed.

LOL !


Hard to say now what it's all about but there's surely something else behind this whole madness than official "we need to help poor refugees".


Are they "running for their lives" from Syria straight to Germany ? There are quite a few countries in between. Most of them are in Turkey and that's where they belong. EU should cover part of the costs and that's more than enough as rich Arabs should do that.


LOL ! Dude, vast majority of Polish taxpayers is against taking any of them.


Hrrr tfuuuuuuu !!! Oh excuse me, I didn't mean that ;)))) I've just meant to ask "So you don't know where the door is ?".

Sorry but the truth does often hurt doesn't it?

But you wouldn't know, as you don't live in Poland, do you Grzegorz?
I haven't noticed Poles in the UK being ordered out because they have certain political views. Of course the UK is not as ****** up as Poland. That's why you are there, or in the US, right?


But we have no concept of how the Turkish population view the Syrian refugees. Probably (if we believe Syrian accounts) how the Russians would treat 5 million Poles in camps in Russia.

With contempt and hostility.

Ah so we should take them to make them feel better and more relaxed :))) ?

I have been following this thread for some time now, some of the comments are great, some, not so much. Some questions need to be asked.

Why are the vast majority of these ''illegal immigrants'' are young fit men, where are all the women and children.

Countries like Libya, Syria, etc.. I guess they allow these people to leave because they then become someone else's problem.

The money they pay to the smugglers, where do they get the 000's of euros from to pay them.

The population of Africa is 1.2 billion, what if they all decide to come to Europe on Monday, when do we say enough is enough.

Above all my main questions revolve about the security and health of Europe. How do you check so many people without ID for criminals, terrorists etc... and finally how are these people screened for health problems or infectious diseases.

Even if the EU were to say '' Poland will take 5000'' believe me they would be gone and heading west the next day.

Of course they are all going to be law abiding with jobs and paying their taxes.

No jobs, language skills, within 10 years Europe will become a 4th world wilderness. I don't see many wanting to move to countries outside the EU, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, hmmm I wonder why.

For once, I have to agree with Putin
rt.com/news/314318-putin-vladivostok-eu-migrants

The US and Canada should take in most of these refugees, but of course they are much farther away. They have the room and a melting pot society which would make assimilation much easier. Don't know if they have the money, however. The US sure doesn't (we spent it all on all our adventures in the middle east).

Speaking of having money, I wonder why the wealthy Gulf nations aren't taking in and helping their kinsmen.

Because they are the wrong type of Muslim.

Polish TV news reprorted Moscow claiming it had so far accepted nearly one million Ukrainian refugees. That, of course, cannot be indepdnently verified,

Pol3, the Russians probably did accept 1 million ukrainians, they annexed crimea if you had forgotten...
As for the solution to displaced persons problem, it's about time Europe looked towards the Australian solution. It may have the left wingers and the NGO's up in arms- but it will get the job done.

stop spreading lies about so called asylum seekers...those illegal economic immigrants are not running away from wars....its BS!!!! as they proven again and again...

there is no war in Hungary,yet they refuse to register there and demand to be taken to Austria and Germany...another evidence that they are looking for free council house and generous social welfare for life.why running away from Poland and Hungary? any genuine asylum seeking person running from horrors of war would be glad to be given life anywhere

yet, considering that are Nazis on the edge to establish their rule in Hungary

whats wrong with Hungary??? is goulash quality not worthy all the trouble for sophisticated syrian taste?

So very wrong. A solitary Hungarian woman was offloading bottles of water to the people there. They were literally gasping for a drink.

In any normal country the government aid workers would have been dispensing water, foodstuffs and sanitary products from trucks. But we know Hungary is fascist scum, and they deserve EU mandating for their dangerously inadequate response to the crisis.

Disgusting, and that country will never see any of my hard earned Euros and that's a fact.

It looks like the immigrants in Hungary are throwing away the food and water that they are given.

Very sad kids want to eat and drink but the adults won't let them.

Link .. paste the below into google

Immigrants throw away the food and the water

In this video the police are trying to get the people off the train into a holding camp. Totally illegal of course.

Wrong is a lenient description for it. And Orban's government had for there own sake better not get into another 1956-type crisis. They may find people are not so keen to help Hungarian refugees this time.

And meanwhile, people are still fleeing Syria, yet the attention is focused on clown politicians in Eastern Europe.

What's with the throwing away of water? I don't understand it :/

This whole situation is just getting ridiculous. If Germany wants them, then let the Germans put on buses for them to reach Germany and get it over and done with.

They throw the water away because the police are trying to get them off the train. The train doesn't leave the station. The story was in the papers yesterday..... this video is designed to give the idea that you suppose.......... and obviously taken by some Hungarian who either doesn't understand what is really going on - the coercion of refugees off trains and refusal of transit ( which was later resumed after Hungary backed off) - or, he is purposely trying to send racist propaganda virally.

The passengers had tickets, and Dublin agreement or not, it was not the Hungarians' business to stop them travelling.

I know, but surely by refusing water, they're making it much easier for the police to deal with them? A fed/watered person is going to be much harder to take than a hungry/thirsty person, surely?

I would have thought it would make sense to take the food and water, thus being able to stay on the train to protest longer.

No, I found out what the plan is. They're essentially staging a hunger strike in order to force the Hungarians to let the train go, and it seems that the same situation as in Calais is happening - a few leaders are forcing the rest to go along with their wishes, even if it hurts them all.

theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/hungary-train-diverts-refugees-back-to-camp

I honestly cannot see another way out of this apart from Germany sending buses directly to Greece. But to complicate things, Germany also seemingly told Hungary to register them as asylum claimants before letting them go.

I wouldn't be hugely shocked if we see a huge fight in the next couple of days between Jobbik supporters and the migrants.

Hungarian authorities announced (just now) that they will provide busses to transport them as far as the Austrian border. Source: bbc.com/news/world-europe-34159780