IF EU let refugees to Europe

You can still come from Arab lands and have like blue eyes. Same with Mexico - I never thought I'd see a blonde haired blue eyed Mexican yet they exist in Mexico City


That's what upsets me. The things that really matter and affect citizens like this have a total lack of reporting. You'll find tons of articles on Caitlyn Jenner or other garbage but little on the fact that police have been playing down rape statistics and crimes commited by migrants or that Germans are forced out of their schools, homes, and job to make accommodations for migrants.

One group that really deserve props is the Yemenis - whether their Sunnis supported by Saudi Arabia or the Shia Rebels supported by Iran. You see all these Muslims coming from countries like Lebanon, Turkey, Kosovo, Bangladesh where there is no way. Yet in Yemen there's constant bombings by both sides and yet the people stay put and fight for their country and don't come to Europe begging for housing and money. I haven't heard of a flood of Yemeni refugees during the entire migrant crisis, and if anyone deserve to get asylum it's them and the Syrians.

Poles, my sisters and brothers, if i may kindly ask you, absolutely take it easy if EU pressuring Poland to accept more asylum seeking refugees. This is what get people if government accept to listen to EU ruling establishment (ie western European magnates). As if it wasn`t enough that radical Muslims overrun us in Kosovo, Metohija, Bosnia and Herzegovina,... our government wanted (under pressure of EU) to behave as tolerant transit country for refugees. What i want to tell you, radical Muslims absolutely started to losing nerves >>>

HE WAS SWINGING WITH AN AXE IN THE PACKED BUS: He yelled "Allahu akbar" and threatened to kill all the Serbs!
04. March 2016
telegraf.rs/english/2029129-he-was-swinging-with-an-axe-in-the-packed-bus-he-yelled-allahu-akbar-and-threatened-to-kill-all-the-serbs

There really isn't much difference between 'radical Muslims' and 'moderate Muslims' - they both believe in the implementation of Sharia, separation of women, and all the bad things that we associate with Islam. Muslims that are liberal, democratic, mostly secular are oftentimes considered not to be 'real' Muslims by their community.

I recommend everyone watch this short video:

youtube.com/watch?v=f8kqiA1sw-U

here is one interesting info for you... Bosnian Muslims the few months before started Civil War in former Yugoslavia, were Europeans same as any other Europeans, despite being Muslims. If ever existed, i would say normal Islam (so not moderate but really normal), in the sense same as we can say normal Catholics, normal Orthodox, Protestants... that was normal Islam. Absolutely normal people by all means. Even normal as Slavs, not that proud Slavs but aware of being Slavic.

Then, their political leader Alija Izetbegovic declared his Islamic declaration about necessity for rule of Sharia law, that all but Muslims aren`t normal, etc things. On that, Serbian political representatives (of Bosnian Serbs) said- ``we don`t wish that kind of Bosnia``. Muslims then decided to separate from Yugoslavia and Serbs decided to stay. Croats made alliance with Muslims. USA and EU, in deal with Islamic league supported Muslims and Croats. Extreme Muslims then attacked one Serbian wedding and few days after federal army and rest is history.

In any case, one could see how what is to be comprehend as normal Muslim vanishing in a blink of an eye. So, i contemplated on that and came to conclusion that are Bosnian Muslims victims, same as Serbs, but in other sense. Moment when USA and EU supported Muslim extremists in Bosnia, concept of existence of normal Muslims was destroyed. Maybe, just maybe, Islam had a chance to be normal religion same as any religion that exist in the world. But, somebody powerful decided to support their extremists.

Right now the west supports extremist Sunni groups like Al-Nusra against other extremist Sunni groups like IS. Israel even treats injured Al-Nusra fighters in it's hospitals. Nothing new.

See the thing is, we call Muslims that support Sharia law as fundamentalist, radicals, etc. However, these sharia supporters don't see themselves as radical. Support for Sharia is actually rather small amongst Muslims in Europe and the former Soviet republics. It's extremely high in the Middle East and Africa - and those are the people that are coming to Europe.

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Adrian, then what is this all about? Yugoslavia as powerful South Slavic (generally Slavic) conglomerate had to be destroyed in order to finish as bad example, that weakened as segmented South Slavs more easily accept assimilation within EU, disappointed in everything Slavic? Radical Muslims were sponsored by the west of Europe and USA in order that is excuse created for future military interventions by USA and west of Europe, in order to remodel the borders on near east, to increase level of control to more easily exploit resources (oil)? Nazi Croat ustashe were supported by the west of Europe and USA, again to set example, that all who follow dictate gets reward? but why are Albanians supported? to prove the Nazi point that Slavs who last arrived to Europe don`t have rights here? Refugee crisis to solve some economic demands and increase mixing of populations?

All this is ok for the west of Europe?

Croats, Slovenes, Macedonians and others wanted their independence from that Serb-ruled conglomerate known as Yugoslavia (even though Tito was a Croat). Czechoslovakis also split up. Cataltonia wants to break with Spain. Scotland and northern Italy are not happy with their situation. It wasn't NATO but Serbia that attacked every nation that wanted to go their own way.

Tito held everything together - it wasn't till his death that the Yugoslav wars started first with Slovenia breaking away. Also, the Slovenian TO were the first to shoot in this case (10 day war) - not the Serbs.

The TO actually shot down a YPA helicopter where the pilot was a Slovenian...

To be more precise, the Serb-dominated JNA and the Serbian communists. Some of it was borne out of genuine fear, especially in the Croatian Krajina - but other situations (such as Vukovar) was purely and simply about territorial expansion. I've been to the memorial for those murdered after the fall of Vukovar, and it's a haunting place.

Worth pointing out that Poland accepted Yugoslav refugees, actually.

Something else : Croatia recognises three Poles as having fallen in the defence of Croatia in 1991-1995.

Yes NATO helped finish off Yugoslavia and weakened Serbia - that's fact. Once Slovenia left, then Croatia, the rest of Serb-dominated Yugoslavia was just holding onto whatever it had left Thousands dead and $30 billion in losses thanks to NATO and the country was left landlocked. The only UN soldier to die during the Srebnica offensive was actually killed by a Muslim's grenade.

Don't forget about the Albanians that started attacking the Macedonians too.


No it's not okay. It is what is though...

Serbia and the Yugoslav Wars aren't really the topic here - it's more about EU accepting refugees - yes many of whom are Muslim but the former Yugoslav countries, including Serbia, are becoming source countries for these refugees. I don't know what the exact ethnicity or religion of the migrants come out of Serbia and into Germany/Sweden/etc. are so I don't want to guess. I do know though that the Serbs in Serbia have it better than the Albanian and Bosnian Muslim minorities.

KOD has dredged up that old chestnut of alleged "Polish anti-Semitism" on their website by showing Warsaw's Tel Aviv restaurant daubed with pro-Palestinian slogans such as "Wolna Palestyna!" and "Syjonizm to rasizm!" Kijowski chickened out at the outrage this caused and the item was soon pulled.

Well... Zionism is racist, even a lot of Orthodox Jews admit that.

The curious thing is that Israel supports many of the far-right groups such as the English Defense League - notice that many of these anti-migrant, right wing groups will never bad mouth Israel. The EDL even has it's own Jewish group... smh...

thejc.com/news/uk-news/19862/uk-fascists-wave-israeli-flag-rally
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/juliankossoff/100059179/the-english-defence-league-the-jewish-division-and-the-useful-idiots/

Well... at least the Muslims will make Europe less safe for average Jewry.. don't know if that's really worth the trade off though since the Zio policitians, producers and bankers will be safe no matter what ethnic group becomes the majority in Europe. Plus, they can just use this as an excuse to increase defense budgets, increase surveillance, decrease privacy, and so on. Even Moldova's banks were run by a 28 year old Israeli who ended up pocketing 10% of the country's GDP for himself and a few friends. Zionist tentacles reach far and wide - that's why I don't trust the Republican party either. There is a ridiculous amount of congressman, senators, ambassadors, pentagon officials, cabinet members, secretaries of this or that with dual US-Israeli citizenship? Yeah, I'm sure they really have US citizens interests in their mind..

I'll mention Dov Zakheim - since he recently spoke out against Trump and called him a terrible candidate and totally unelectable. Here's some history about Mr. Zakheim. Dov Zakheim, an ordained Rabbi and offspring of known Bolsheviks and Jewish terrorists (grandpa Julius Zakheim - Bolshevik, Jacob Zakheim - member of Betar who was a group that wished to conquer 'both sides of the Jordan' for the Jewish people), was the Pentagon Comptroller under Bush. Under his watch, first an initial $1 trillion was unaccounted for from Pentagon books - when an audit was ordered the government realized there was an ADDITIONAL $2 trillion missing - over $3 trillion of taxpayer money missing from the Pentagon. Rumsfeld announced this loss on September 10, 2001 - so it was essentially forgotten as the US focused on the attacks that happened the following day. His words were something to the tune of: 'Dr. Zakheim has been trying to hire CPAs ... because we can't account for $2 trillion in transactions that didn't exist' He was also the guy responsible for Israel receiving F-16 and F-15 fighters for pennies on the dollar since they were considered 'surplus' - while at the time 15% of US planes were grounded due to lack of parts - and also got the US government to fund the 'Lavi fighter' a plane that ended up being cancelled by ISRAEL due to problems - but the U.S. had to pay nearly $500 million still because of the contract even though the plans were cancelled. . Did the media discuss this - you bet it didn't. American people should be up in arms that trillions of their tax dollars simply disappeared - but of course you wouldn't know because ABC/FOX/CBS/MSNBC don't run these kind of stories - of it they do it is an extremely brief segment that's totally watered down.

These neocon Zionists make me sick - Paul Wolfowitz (World Bank Group fraudster, Iraq war liar, now supporting Jeb Bush) , Elliot Abrams (another liar, pleaded guilty to withholding information from congress, responsible for numerous foreign policy disasters), Richard Perle (one of the pro/anti-Iraq war flip floppers, still not convicted of bribery or fraud - defrauded shareholders to line his and his friends pockets), and especially Henry Kissinger - who presented a report to congress that 2 billion people need to be killed and will be in Hillary's cabinet.. This is a guy who's said that the US shouldn't let voters in Chile decide what government they want and that the US ought to do the illegal first, and unconstitutional later.

This is the same guy that keeps going public on how Trump is according to his words, 'unelectabe... not a serious candidate'

I really do believe that this whole migrant crisis was planned out. I just can't understand that over a million people could flood Europe within the span of a few short years and countries expected their citizens to let them in and the EU and media criticizes countries that wish to put up fences and protect their borders... lunacy

What???

Im ******! I actually read most of that rant and will never get that time back!

The 92 year old Henry Kissinger? At least nobody can accuse her of ageism...

Kissinger is no saint - he is arguably the most evil Secretary of State we've ever had - even worse than Clinton in my eyes. Kissinger presented a report on how to starve people and depopulate the earth because he stated that the population was simply growing too high and was a danger to US interests. This is an individual that is responsible for numerous atrocities, murders, and perhaps even genocide in Bangladesh, Cambodia, East Timor, Vietnam, and many other countries. Here is a great source on some of Kissinger's crimes in foreign countries - thirdworldtraveler.com/Kissinger/HKissinger.html

Here's some lovely quotes from him - alternet.org/world/top-10-most-inhuman-henry-kissinger-quotes

'The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer
"I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves."

Here is some info on the Kissinger plan that he presented to Congress aka National Security Study Memorandum 200

schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html
larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_kissinger_food.html

If you think that Kissinger is a good person, you really need to do some research on him.

"We are all born ignorant, but we must work hard to remain stupid."

Benjamin Franklin

"Governments don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking, That is against their interests. They want obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept it."

George Carlin

Has nothing to do with the humanitarian refugee issue here in Europe and your comment about President Hillary Clinton appointing the 92 year old Kissinger to high office is nonsense.

I never said that Hillary would or would not appoint Kissinger. The fact is, he would nonetheless remain in a position of power - most likely unofficially. Kissinger has essentially been Hillary's mentor on foreign policy. This guy is a total war criminal. He's killed thousands of civilians without even blinking an eye because he felt it was the right thing to do.

msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-cozies-henry-kissinger-her-own-peril

I mentioned Kissinger as belonging to the group of Zionist neocons in post 1570 and how the Muslim hordes would affect European Jewry.


Let's get this straight - the vast majority ARE NOT REFUGEES FLEEING WAR - the vast majority are ECONOMIC MIGRANTS. Even the ones that already escaped to places like Turkey aren't happy with that because they don't get free money from the government and actually will have to work for a living - so they want to go to Europe where they can sit around, fondle our women, and impose their culture and beliefs on us. Places like Albania, Lebanon, Bangladesh, Ghana, Nigeria, Kosovo, Turkey, and Iran do not have any sort of war going on - they're only coming for economic reasons. I can understand letting in people that are PROVEN to be from Iraq, Syria, and maybe even Afghanistan - but not people from Nigeria, Ghana, or Bangladesh - there is no war going on in these countries. Furthermore, a real refugee that escapes war is happy with any decent and safe country he or she is put in - yet they demand that they go to Germany instead of Austria because the benefits are better. Austria is perfectly safe and there's plenty of opportunity - but of course these people want to go wherever the welfare is best.

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He's 92 and in poor health. I wouldn't buy the guy a long-playing record never mind bet that he'll be in a state where he can be in a "position of power" after December.

About the humanitarian crisis in Europe, the one that seems to be easing, it really doesn't stress me. People move from one place in the world to another. I've done it myself, as probably you have too. Population movement in the future is only going to increase so best to make it as positive as we can.

The difference is, in each place I've ever lived in or traveled to, which has included several states (mostly moved to) and several dozen countries (mostly travel but about 4 I settled down and lived in) I worked or attended a university, learned the customs and traditions, assimilated into the new environment, and added to the local economy. I even made an attempt to learn the language and thanks to it my Spanish is pretty darn good now. I did not demand that the government in that area house me and my family, give me money for food, and impose my culture and religion on the locals. I did not walk down the street with '10 Commandments 4 Maastricht' while studying abroad. I did not make statements that Mexican women deserve a real man, as migrants have been quoted as saying in Sweden. That is what the Muslims and Africans are doing in Europe - too few are assimilating into the local culture.


Good. The sooner he's in hell the sooner the better. I still feel that the people he met throughout his career and influenced will be in Clinton's administration if she wins.


If everyone got their way and was able to move to countries like the US, Canada, Germany, Sweden, etc. do you realize what the implications of what would be? For one, total erosion of the local culture (more so in Europe) and complete change of demographics. No one would want to live anymore in places like Nigeria and Ghana - what about those countries? Especially if all the doctors, engineers, and intelligentsia move out, who's going to manage the hospitals, build bridges, manage the electric grid if all the Nigerian doctors and engineers are now in the US and Europe?

Nor do 99% of the recent newcomers to Europe. It's very dangerous to rely on newspaper reports; they only print the sensational stuff, at least half of which is untrue.


It's not going to happen. the pressure on London by people already able to move there from Russia (if they're rich enough), Poland, France etc is already problematic.

One day there will be absolutely free movement around the world - it will happen - however not in your lifetime or mine. Meanwhile we have to accept that it will happen and make sure it works out for the best.


The "local culture" is not the same as it was 100 years ago or even 50 years ago and certainly won't be the same 50 years in the future. Everything changes.

True - but I'd hate to see Belgium and other European countries become majority Muslim. I fear that will happen as these people simply have a much higher birthrate than white Christian Europeans. I hate to see crosses taken off of several hundred year old churches across Europe because those signs are 'offensive' to Muslims. They need to adapt to our culture - they came here - it shouldn't be the other way around. Unfortunately, these liberals are way to easy to please foreigners that aren't even citizens of that country.


They do - if they didn't demand housing, welfare, money then they'd stay put in Turkey or Lebanon and not demand to go to Germany. The vast majority are economic migrants - not war refugees. Furthermore, the vast majority DO NOT assimilate - if 99% of new comers did, there wouldn't be all these Muslim ghettos that are full of extremist, Sharia patrols, and even the cops are scared to go into.

There have been numerous surveys that stating that a significant portion of Muslims believe in Sharia being the system of law within their country - 91% for Iraqis and 99% for Afghanis - both ethnicities are widely represented in the migrant crisis, 48% in the US state that their imams have not done a good job speaking out against violent extremism, 47% of Muslims say that it is not up to the woman whether she wants to wear a veil, and 39% of Afghanis say that suicide bombings are often/sometimes justified. Many imams like that Chaudry guy in England openly call for ISIS support and have been jailed many times due to supporting terrorism. He has a ton of followers and there are 'Sharia 4 Belgium, Sharia 4 UK, Sharia 4 Sweden' groups in nearly every Western European country. These groups are dangerous - here's a Sharia 4 Belgium group calling for overthrow and destruction of Belgium's monuments - youtube.com/watch?v=cZpYUMTr9KU

So no, 1% of Muslims are not the 'extreme' kind - that number is far, far larger. There are no concrete estimates, but the research conducted in the local countries gives you some example of the percentages. Even in the Balkans, 62% of Muslims said that drinking is morally wrong and 11% of Kosovar Muslims said that suicide bombing is 'often/sometimes' justified.

Look at what's been happening in Europe lately with these Muslim majority countries - the sexual assault in Cologne, the shooting in Paris, the shooting in Belgium, the assaults in Sweden, the ridiculous amount of money being spent to house and feed them at the cost of the taxpayer, all the jihadis from Europe that went to fight in Syria that are now coming back (4,000 from Western Europe) - icsr.info/2015/01/foreign-fighter-total-syriairaq-now-exceeds-20000-surpasses-afghanistan-conflict-1980s/

breitbart.com/national-security/2014/09/04/myth-tiny-radical-minority/

France - 16% of French people have a positive view towards ISIS
England - 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
Pakistan - 51% grieved for Osama Bin Laden
Morrocco - 68% approved of terrorist attacks on US forces in Iraq
This is not a good thing... even if these numbers are overestimated by DOUBLE - that's still a very very scary statistic...

pewforum.org/2013/04/30/infographic-the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-and-society/
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims -religion-politics-society-overview/

That just doesn't stress me out.


I suspect a damn sight more British non-Muslims living in Dubai would like to see them adopt a western legal system.

But with a towelhead majority it will be a change for the worse. All benefits should be cut for those who refuse to learn the local language and find a job. They should be scattered with no more than 5% in any neighbourhood and even then intersprsed amongst the locals. And for any infraction obligatory deprortation

would be in order. If that were enforced, the flow of potential welfare swindlers and parasites would be down to a trickle. Just wait and see the 4th Reich introduce similar measures after this summer of Muslim rapes, chaos and frolic.

Maybe once they start raping the women in you care about, your family members and friends start losing their job because their place of employment was converted into a refugee shelter (as my aunt in Dortmund lost her job of over a decade at a 4 star hotel essentially overnight), and someone you know gets killed in a terrorist attack or beat up by a migrant because they were coming out of church maybe then you'll start stressing out.

The difference is that the Brits in Dubai contribute to the society - they don't leech off the welfare system, they don't abuse the local Emirate women, they don't demand that the mosques take down their crescent symbols because it's offensive to their faith, and they don't walk around with 'Protestantism 4 U.A.E.' signs.

That can happen anyway, easily enough.


Beyond unlikely


This can happen anyway when a workplace changes - it's capitalism


Immigrants to the UK contribute massively to the economy


Plenty would given the chance

Your strident defence of Muslim migrants may stem from the erroneous conviction that greater diversity will take the heat off sexual deviates and other eccentrics who will easily get lost in the confusion. If such people think they had it bad in Chrisitian societies, they've got another thing coming. Not only Christians and Jews but also homosexuals are targeted, stigmatised and attacked verbally and physically in areas overrun by Muslims. This is not a prediciton -- it's already happening and will soon increase in intensity.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3442529/Surging-number-attacks-Germany-s-migrant-centres-sees-Christians-women-homosexuals-forced-flee-Muslim-men.htmln.html

It's fine, maybe once Sharia is established in European countries he'll change his opinion. This already exists in certain rural villages in Albania. Its only a matter before it happens to Western European countries. The fact is, eventually these Muslims will have realistic political aspirations. We've already seen a handful of Muslims as PMs. As the Muslim population grows, so will the amount of extremists and Muslims who want Sharia established - they will undoubtedly vote for politicians that support their views. We will see drastic changes in many European countries in terms of economics, politics, and even perhaps law. We've already seen it with demographics and custom as churches that have been around for centuries take down crosses so as not to offend Muslims.

Also jon, my aunt lost her job of over a decade because the government took over a 4 star hotel and repurposed it as a migrant shelter. Now these individuals get to enjoy 4 star accommodations for free while the entire staff is out of work all of a sudden. This isn't the first time this has happened with a hotel in Germany either. Even rent paying residents have been asked to move out of apartments so economic migrants can live there for free. Atleast the people in Poland still have common sense and their government has acted in the interests of the people, unlike Germany. Atleast some people are torching migrant shelters although simply too many have been let in and even more are coming in.

I'm reading how/why Sweden changed immigration policy. *Surprise surprise* Jewish holocaust survivors gained political influence.

The Africans are coming

"Hundreds of thousands of Africans are preparing to test their luck on the voyage across the Mediterranean to Europe. As the weather begins improving, the number of arrivals will rise -- as will the number of deaths."

.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-1089536.html

The Jews are the ones that are pushing this immigration into Europe and multiculturalism - just as they have in the US through their senators like Leavitts and organization like JPAC, WJC, AIPAC, ADL, etc.

From Barbara Spectre:
"Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural and I think that we're going to part of that transformation - which MUST take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role but without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive" I beg to differ - Europe has been fine for centuries!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=9UsNjgZxMQc

Really? Which Jews would that be, then?