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IF EU let refugees to Europe



kondzior
20 Jul 2016  #1561

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This is a confession of 16-years old frightened German fräulein, asking all German men for help:
shoebat.com/2016/01/22/please-men-of-germany-do-something-german-teenager-banned-from-facebook-for-this-video-gives-horrifying-account-of-situation-in-germany-rips-merkel-begs-for-german-men-to-fight-muslim-invader

Seems to me that she's not enjoying these acts representing the breeding ground for new perceptions of the world

nothanks
20 Jul 2016  #1562

I constantly have contrasting conversations on Facebook with German Natives and expats living in Germany etc, when it comes to private messaging and public posts.

Germans are openly scared of having their careers ruined or worse being arrested. Currently Germans have my sympathy but if Merkel is re-elected, or someone with similiar immigration policy then I will turn my back as I have with France.

Lyzko
20 Jul 2016  #1563

Don't forget though, nothanks, Merkel, like Cameron, Hollande and nearly every other European head of state, had been under extreme pressure from within her own party to adapt to the migrant policies of the EU as a whole, in addition to Sweden, Denmark, and Norway. Therefore, try to mitigate the blame and divide it more or less equally among the rest of the NATO countries; it's not only Germany's "fault" that the migrant issue has taken such a deadly turn! This however, has become grist for the radical right, among many other European governments, even those not members of the EU.

nothanks
20 Jul 2016  #1564

If EU "leadership" took a hard stance today - and set Union wide regulations: residence limits with probation periods [language progression/no arrests] resulting in losing rights/benefits. Ultimately the big issue is deportations. It does not seem to be occurring at the moment. There are more migrants returning home on their own free will than are being physically moved out. That is a major red flag.

Otherwise if the EU took a hard stance I would not be against "spreading out" those that are already currently in. But Germany is still swapping [rejected for old/sick] with Turkey and planning on taking more from the camps. THERE - IS - NO - END.

> Poles view child bearing too expensive

> African population explosion [By the end of this century, Africa will be home to 39% of the world's population]

> Poland is expected to offer humanitarian aid?

Lyzko
20 Jul 2016  #1565

Indeed, Merkel has taken more than her expected share of flack from opponents, as well as even from her own party! As to where there is an end in sight, I honestly cannot say, but I can't expect it to be terribly soon:-) She's too mired in problems right now, problems above all with party infighting!

nothanks
21 Jul 2016  #1566

The beauty of it all is that the behavior of these migrants is out of Merkel's hands. We see all she can control is the stream of knowledge and facts reaching the public.

For reference point, I encountered this article published today on a German site. To many this is shocking revelations.

Deutsche Welle: Many refugees in Germany lack training or education: report
The level of education among newly arrived migrants in Germany is lower than expected, according to the Federal Labor Office. A quarter have a high school diploma, while three quarters have no vocational training at all.

Lyzko
21 Jul 2016  #1567

Above all, most don't even speak German. Those who know but a little English, don't even know IT as well as their German contemporaries:-)

dolnoslask
24 Jul 2016  #1568

Another random nutter, strange how common they in the west are these days.

BREAKING NEWS: Machete-wielding Syrian refugee kills woman and injures two other people in new German outrage
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3705823/Machete-wielding-attacker-kills-woman-injures-two-new-German-outrage.html

Time for the apologist libtards to start posting, more denials, we love multi-culti all is great, its not the migrants fault no borders, dolno you are a racist.

It aint working, solutions from the liberal classes urgently required please.

mafketis
24 Jul 2016  #1569

we love multi-culti all is great, its not the migrants fault no borders

The problem is less multi-culti than the philosophy behind that which is human fungibility. The EU is run on the basis of the idea that there are no important differences between people at the individual or collective levels.

There is no real world evidence for this (all the evidence goes the other way) but it's a semi-religious belief and so it's impervious to real world experience.

That is the philosophy behind multi-culti which does not celebrate culture but rather trivializes it as unimportant and superficial and easily changeable.

Remember, if a country needs skilled labor a bunch of Somalis is the same as a bunch of Chinese. And yes, they really do believe that (or act as if they did).

nothanks
24 Jul 2016  #1570

mafketis,

It is smog arrogance IMO. That anyone can be raised in their society and grow up to be an engineer etc. This ideology centers on the false premise that "we are all equal". That there are no/little differences between the races, religions, genders, cultures. Discarding tens of thousands of years of secluded evolution.

mafketis
24 Jul 2016  #1571

That anyone can be raised in their society and grow up to be an engineer etc

Well it's true that an engineer might come out of any society, but..... at the individual level... No, not everybody can be an engineer and No, not all societies can produced the same number of engineers (in terms of percentages of the total population)...

Lyzko
25 Jul 2016  #1572

Nothanks, what do you mean by "smog" arrogance? As near as I can tell, air pollution isn't germain to this discussion.

@Maf, what you say also makes sense, but for every engineer, prodigy type to come from a particular group, there's no preventing the bad seed of a future jihadi dadi from taking root as well:-)

Crow
29 Jul 2016  #1573

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Merkel turning Europe in Nazi-Islamic Caliphate

TheOther
29 Jul 2016  #1574

Use your brains, folks. The whole problem started because Greece, Italy and Spain did not protect their maritime borders and Turkey didn't care, either. Refugees and migrants could easily enter the EU and claim asylum, and their increasing numbers created a crisis especially in Greece and Italy. When Merkel opened her mouth, she was trying to help out, but - just like you - she didn't use her brain. Now everybody's blaming her and Germany. How convenient.

Crow
29 Jul 2016  #1575

Its easy to blame Germany. Easy, because its logical. Germany invented Nazism and merged it with Islamism. Then, platform for merging those two was to target Slavs (ie Sarmatians). That was platform in WWII. Now, they have wider appetites: 1. to provide cheap labor force, 2. to weak national being of own population thru mixing and prepare people for corporate era, 3. territorial expansion onto the Slavic world, by rising hatred against Slavs and weakening Slavs from within by same receipt as it is done on the west of Europe (one half of Slavs assimilate in the process and the other half of Slavs exterminate in the process).

TheOther
29 Jul 2016  #1576

Please, Crow ... stop your funny conspiracy theories. Why and for what would German corporations need millions of uneducated and illiterate migrants from the Middle East and north Africa? That doesn't make sense because there are simply no jobs for these people, and if I recall correctly, the German unemployment office has already issued a warning.

Crow
29 Jul 2016  #1577

Uneducated and illiterate migrants would increase pressure on wages in every industry where dominates physical work. Unemployed migrants would increase pressure on social network and payments. It would then increase pressure on rise of taxes. In the meanwhile, people would mix, social and ethnic tensions would grow. Turmoils. Perfect environment for corporations to generally decrease wages for majority of population.

Lyzko
30 Jul 2016  #1578

Same as here, that's why there's a Trump rising, I'm afraid!

Crow
30 Jul 2016  #1579

Please focus on Poland in this thread

Poland? It is EU who don`t see Poland. We all focus on Poland. That`s why we even speak here, for sure not for EU, no not for that evil granny

Same as here, that's why there's a Trump rising, I'm afraid!

Truly, one can hardly say what is bigger evil Trump or Hillary. Trump could be understand as lesser evil.

Lyzko
30 Jul 2016  #1580

Obviously Trump! That's a no brainer:-)

At least Hillary doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator. Trump is the American PEDIGIST extraordinaire, the US answer to Orban Viktor, Frauke Petry, Le Pen, and any number of other anti-immigrant conservative right wingers who have mushroomed up throughout Europe.

The issue on immigrants is not to ban them, but to integrate them so as not to jeopardize local, homegrown jobs. Instead of having a job posting for one manager position and letting the recent foreign arrival get first dibs, offer TWO, so that the frustration is distributed fairly and equitably:-)

Matteozilliani
30 Jul 2016  #1581

Crow, i ever tought you were inteligent. But compare Trump to a crook, a thug like Hillary, is absurd.

Trump is the representant of a anti-globalist, anti-multiculturalist America.

On the other side, Hillary is the america version of Merkel, pro Sharia-Law and pro-Political Correctness.

So for Poland, for Slavs, and for the World, Trump is better.

For George Soros, Hillary is better.

Crow
31 Jul 2016  #1582

yes, i apologize. i wasn`t in the mood and it all from within me fall on Pan Trump. Trump is ok. With his Slavic wife he is practically Slavicized. He opposed USA bombing of Serbia back then in 1999, which makes him extremely wise and makes him decent.

As for Hilary, she is sick woman from sick family.

dolnoslask
8 Aug 2016  #1583

Germany is so desperate to take in more refugees they are lifting foreign tourists off the streets an putting them in camps.

Chinese tourist ends up living in a German refugee home for 12 days after trying to report his lost wallet to police and being mistaken for an asylum seeker

Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729995/Chinese-tourist-ends-living-German-refugee-home-12-days-trying-report-lost-wallet-police-mistaken-asylum-seeker.html#ixzz4Gm0ZmjJJ

Lyzko
8 Aug 2016  #1584

All of which, of course, is desparately hurting Merkel to point of no return:-)

The Germans are sick and tired, tired and sick to death of more ill-fitting, non-German speaking aliens in their midst, who in many cases recalcitrantly refuse to "Germanize"!

peterweg
9 Aug 2016  #1585

All of which, of course, is desparately hurting Merkel to point of no return

Thats the story in the non-German press. But apparently she is still extremely popular in German

Lyzko
9 Aug 2016  #1586

Not according to DER SPIEGEL!

TheOther
10 Aug 2016  #1587

Peterweg is right, Lyzko - Merkel is still very popular. I will never understand why, but in July she had an approval rating of 59% and after two terror attacks in Bavaria it's currently at 47%. The Germans must be suicidal.

Lyzko
10 Aug 2016  #1588

May well be, but the big question remains, among whom? The down-and-outers from the Old East Zone aren't about to give a flyin' Furz for Merkel, whereas I suppose a successful professional from Hamburg, Frankfurt/Bankfurt or elsewhere in the "West" will likely support Merkel's leadership.

On the other hand, Frauke Petry's HARDLY some weird old misfit from out of nowhere, but a successful professional herself (a lawyer, I think), yet is Merkel's opponent and an anti-immigrationist, so go figure:-)

kondzior
4 Sep 2016  #1589

After the Turkroaches the Honor Killers (Kurds) held a demonstration in Cologne too:

lol

Unfortunately it was just as boring as the Turkroach one. Still, immigrants who stage nationalist demonstrations for another nation always deserve a mention, to illustrate the complete non-integration of Muhammedans of all stripes.

Most popular slogan at the demonstration was calling for the release of PKK terrorist leader Öcalan, who is like a patron saint for the Kurdish community in Germany.

I wonder what the media would say if we staged a "Freedom for Breivik" demonstration, with flags and t-shirts all showing his charming visage..

I guess something like "These inhuman monsters have no place in a civilized society!"
But if you are a ******** Mohammedan pro-terrorist / mafia demonstrations are just another Saturday.

German source:
express.de/koeln/gross-demo-in-deutzer-werft-30-000-kurden-demonstrierten-fuer-pkk-fuehrer-oecalan-24687436

Polonius3
4 Sep 2016  #1590

Kurds

Ther Middle East ain't my speciality but I have often wondered whether such a large nation like the Kurds (25-30 mln) shouldn't have their own state. The dispersal and frustration of being persecuted by different countries must cause resentment, frustration and desperation. Big countreis such as Turkey, Iraq, USSR, etc, having sizable Kurdish populations could voluntarily offer snippets of land which could add up to form a contiguous Kurdish state. And it it should have access to the sea. I know that sounds too idealistic becuase states are like people: greedy, possessive and none too generous.


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