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Serbia etc. thread 3
Alien
26 May 2024 #152
' incident
I don't know, but what I do know is that there was a great air show disaster in Ramstein in 1988, with 70 dead and about 1,000 injured.
Crow
25 Jun 2024 #153
Crow is wise bird.
Man, what could possible go wrong on Balkan?
Englishman living in Serbia - Why he left London for Belgrade Serbia
Abundance of worlds purest and richest lithium in Serbia
By having around 10% of world`s lithium total reserves and, with it in its purest, riches and unique local form known as `jadarit` - a compound of sodium lithium boron silicate hydroxide, Serbia literally sits on billions of dollars. Great public debate occurs on a ways to exploit this countries advantage.
"Serbia is (not) for Sale": On Lithium, Hunger and Other Betrayals
source > lefteast.org/serbia-is-not-for-sale-on-lithium-hunger-and-other-betrayals/
As worlds biggest multinational companies struggle to invest in Serbia`s lithium, stance of Serbian government insist on not selling lithium just as ore. Serbia seek to have complete circle of production, from ore to the most quality worlds lithium batteries and electric road and flying cars.
Hoće li Srbija iskoristiti svoju "naftu 21. veka"?
Crow
27 Jun 2024 #154
Rod Blagojevich will save the USA. He, with his most loyal wife on this Earth. Blessed woman.
America is literally in the hands of Serbians.
Bobko
27 Jun 2024 #155
Rod Blagojevich will save the USA
Rod Blagojevich could not save himself, how can he save America?
Serious respect to Rod for trying to sell Obama's Senate seat, however.
Illinois is an amazing state. Four of its governors have faced criminal charges. A father and son essentially turned Chicago into their private fief for the better part of the 20th century (The Daleys).
The fat trust fund kid that runs Illinois now (a descendant of the Hyatt founder), was caught in wiretaps set up for investigating Rod Blagojevich - discussing what non elected position he wanted to "play" with. This didn't stop him from getting elected as governor - which shows that if you have enough money - anything is possible in Illinois.
Illinois is the Ukraine/Poland of America.
Novichok
27 Jun 2024 #156
Illinois is the Ukraine/Poland of America.
Except that Ukrainians are allowed to have and fire their assault weapons as they see fit and we are not.
I like Ukraine better...
Bobko
27 Jun 2024 #157
Except that Ukrainians
The reason Illinois is so corrupt - is because the highest concentration of Poles and Ukrainians in the country is in Illinois :)
The most corrupt state in America, has the highest percentage of immigrants from the most corrupt countries in Europe - quelle surprise!
Usually... I think of MidWesterners as straight edge/square people - trustworthy and reliable. Illinois complicates that picture of course, haha! Michigan too. Too close to New York I guess.
The virus of corruption travelled down the Erie Canal.
Novichok
27 Jun 2024 #158
The reason Illinois is so corrupt - is because the highest concentration of Poles
Spot on, Bobko. A Polak who would vote Republican would be divorced, disowned, and chased away, if not shot.
That is why we moved as far away from these idiots as possible ...
Bobko
27 Jun 2024 #159
@Novichok
People bring their culture and their practices with them.
It's why New York is also such a hotbed of corruption and crime, in comparison to our very quiet neighbors in Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
Nothing against black, brown, yellow people - because there's still so few of them in government. But actually against the usual suspects from the Catholic world. Italians, Poles, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, etc.
Catholicism, just like Eastern Orthodoxy, seems to produce people with very flexible moral values.
Crow
29 Jun 2024 #161
After the crossbow attack on a policeman today in Belgrade, where a Muslim terrorist lost his life, the police continue to hunt the terrorist group.
Action on Video >
Vesko Vukovic
29 Jun 2024 #162
The wahhabi terrorist tried to attack the Israeli embassy in Belgrade.
The cop with the arrow still in his neck managed to take him down.
theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/serbia-crossbow-attacker-shot-dead-after-firing-bolt-at-israeli-embassy-guard
Przelotnyptak1
30 Jun 2024 #163
"Hey, Bob, are you inspired to write nonsense by following lying, Jon? Check the statistics, and you'll be surprised by the percentage of black people in our government. There are actually quite a few of them."
Crow
1 Jul 2024 #164
A big storm has been announced and is about to begin just now in my city of Novi Sad, northern Serbia
Miloslaw
1 Jul 2024 #166
HaHaHaHa!, yeah, I am more interested in the weather in the USA.
You had a huge heatwave last week, how is it going now?
Bobko
2 Jul 2024 #167
Hey, Crow - got anything to say about why Serbia has supplied $800M worth of munitions to Ukraine?
Not a very Sarmatian, or brother-like action - don't you think?
Statement from Vucic:
"This is a part of our economic revival and important for us. Yes, we do export our ammunition," he said in an interview. "We cannot export to Ukraine or to Russia . . . but we have had many contracts with Americans, Spaniards, Czechs, others. What they do with that in the end is their job."
Source: armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/army-news-2024/business-more-useful-than-ideology-for-serbian-president-with-800-millions-euros-of-ammo-exported-in-ukraine
It seems that when money becomes involved, ideas of Sarmatian brotherhood become secondary.

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Alien
2 Jul 2024 #168
Hey, Crow - got anything to say about why Serbia has supplied $800M worth of munitions to Ukraine?
And how can these Serbs be trusted? 😠
Bobko
2 Jul 2024 #169
Alexander III once said, "Russia has only two allies - its army and its fleet."
Relying on others, has rarely ever worked for us.
It's just funny with the Serbs... all these proclamations of eternal love, while selling huge amounts of artillery shells to Ukraine.
Even North Koreans and Persians have been more loyal than these Orthodox and Slavic "Brothers" .
Alien
2 Jul 2024 #170
fleet
Well, I think you overdid it here. Most of them "float" on the seabed near Crimea.
Even North Koreans and Persians have been more loyal than these Orthodox and Slavic "Brothers" .
You're wrong here too. Not only will they betray you at the first opportunity, but they also consider themselves to be something better.
Bobko
2 Jul 2024 #171
Not only will they betray you at the first opportunity
I can see something like that, maybe...
The Americans coming to Pyongyang and Tehran, and saying "We will lift the sanctions against you, if you just stop helping Russia."
The Koreans and Persians would of course be extremely naive to believe anything the United States might promise.
Obama negotiated, together with the EU, the JCPOA (popularly known as the Iran Nuclear Deal). Iran was happy, that after more than 30 years of being isolated by America, it could finally reintegrate itself into world trade.
In less than two years, Trump comes into power and flushes the whole agreement (that took 13 years to negotiate) down the toilet.
The Europeans, in a pathetic attempt to display "strategic autonomy" - tried to calm Iran down with assurances that they would stick to their end of the deal regardless of America's unhinged behavior. In the event, Iran eventually had to explain to the Europeans, politely, that they can stick their "promises" in their ass.
North Korea has been bullied and extorted by the United States pretty much since the moment of its creation. I don't know how they could believe anything coming out of Washington.
America has spent the last 25 years aggressively flushing down the drain the reputation that it had built for itself during the previous 80 years.
Mr Grunwald
2 Jul 2024 #173
@Bobko
Honestly, if Slovenia did it. I would raise my eyebrows as a Russian. But, it's Serbia. It cannot afford to sat no to a good economical deal with almost anybody.
Yugoslavia pre world war II hoped to have alliance and co-operate with the western allies. Had to grudgingly sign treaties with Germany and it blew up in 1940 delaying any planned actions against Soviet Union.
Then Tito after ww2 despite being communist tried to keep a neutral stance and did not join Warsaw pact.
How many Yugoslavs have attacked Russia? Has any ex-Yugoslav reason to attack or be anti-Russian?
Bobko
2 Jul 2024 #174
How many Yugoslavs have attacked Russia? Has any ex-Yugoslav reason to attack or be anti-Russian
They never attacked us.
We never attacked them.
Instead, we liberated them in earlier wars, and more recently stepped in to prevent a total erasure of Serbia during the Yugoslav Wars. We have been the most steadfast advocate of Serbia's interests when it comes to the question of Kosovo. We share a common faith, blood, and even alphabet)
So yes, it is a little confusing why Serbia decided to take such a huge steaming dump on our doorstep. Or rather it's not confusing at all...
Serbia worships Mammon, like all others, and not Svetovid.
Novichok
2 Jul 2024 #175
US-imposed sanctions:
Active Sanctions Programs Program Last Updated
Afghanistan-Related Sanctions Feb 25, 2022
Balkans-Related Sanctions Jun 18, 2024
Belarus Sanctions Apr 19, 2024
Burma-Related Sanctions Jan 31, 2024
Central African Republic Sanctions Dec 08, 2023
Chinese Military Companies Sanctions Jun 01, 2022
Counter Narcotics Trafficking Sanctions Jul 01, 2024
Counter Terrorism Sanctions Jun 25, 2024
Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act-Related Sanctions Sep 14, 2023
Cuba Sanctions May 28, 2024
Cyber-Related Sanctions May 28, 2024
Democratic Republic of the Congo-Related Sanctions Dec 08, 2023
Ethiopia-Related Sanctions Feb 08, 2022
Foreign Interference in a United States Election Sanctions Feb 02, 2024
Global Magnitsky Sanctions Jun 11, 2024
Hong Kong-Related Sanctions Dec 20, 2021
Hostages and Wrongfully Detained U.S. Nationals Sanctions Apr 23, 2024
Iran Sanctions Jun 27, 2024
Iraq-Related Sanctions Aug 23, 2023
Lebanon-Related Sanctions Aug 10, 2023
Libya Sanctions Oct 17, 2022
Magnitsky Sanctions Aug 17, 2023
Mali-Related Sanctions Aug 04, 2023
Nicaragua-related Sanctions May 15, 2024
Non-Proliferation Sanctions May 31, 2024
North Korea Sanctions May 16, 2024
Rough Diamond Trade Controls Jun 18, 2018
Russian Harmful Foreign Activities Sanctions Jun 21, 2024
Somalia Sanctions May 24, 2023
South Sudan-Related Sanctions Dec 08, 2023
Sudan and Darfur Sanctions Jun 06, 2024
Syria Sanctions Jun 05, 2024
Syria-Related Sanctions (Executive Order 13894 of 2019) Aug 17, 2023
Transnational Criminal Organizations Mar 14, 2024
Ukraine-/Russia-related Sanctions May 06, 2024
Venezuela-Related Sanctions May 10, 2024
West Bank-Related Sanctions Jun 14, 2024
Yemen-related Sanctions Nov 18, 2021
This is insanity.
Hey, Bobko, I read your posts looking for something I could disagree with and didn't find anything...Damn...
Bobko
2 Jul 2024 #176
Damn...
I love America. It's a great country. Maybe the greatest country ever... but you gotta be clear eyed about what it's doing around the world and how other people interpret these moves.
Some of these moves, really are very hard to explain.
Torq
2 Jul 2024 #177
We will lift the sanctions against you, if you just stop helping Russia.
The very fact that Russia needs help from heavily sanctioned Iran, not to mention North Korea, is so depressingly sad I can't even tell you. To see your eternal enemy, your feared nemesis, the great Russian bear, fall so low... it's painful. Even if I weren't an incorrigible Russophile, it would still bother me to se such fall. It's like a slap in our faces and a laugh - "look, this is what you - fearless Poles ha ha - were so unnerved about xD". :( You should have done much better in this war, Bobi. You're making us look like idiots. :(
Serbia worships Mammon, like all others, and not Svetovid.
I doubt it. $800 million is peanuts money even for a small European country. It wasn't about money. Serbian elites are choosing the orientation of their foreign policies. Why do they do it quietly? Probably not to shock their population with a sudden 180 degrees turn. The turn will be slow and gradual but inevitable.
Bobko
2 Jul 2024 #178
look, this is what you - fearless Poles ha ha - were so unnerved about xD
Patience, my dear.
There will be a time, and no one will say such a thing to you.
Enough to say that DPRK has more artillery stocks than the entire EU, and Iran has better drone technology than nearly anybody else in Europe.
Russia gains strength daily.
Torq
2 Jul 2024 #179
There will be a time, and no one will say such a thing to you.
I'll take your word for it. Don't disappoint me.
Miloslaw
2 Jul 2024 #180
Enough to say that DPRK has more artillery stocks than the entire EU
I very much doubt that.
and Iran has better drone technology than nearly anybody else in Europe.
That is also bollox, the Ukrainian drones are having more success than the Iranian ones in the Ukraine war.
Is it about the source or the operators?
@Torq
Why do you support Russia?
