Britain votes and the right man wins.

The result was astounding and better than we had hoped. Nigel Farage and his Ukip party have sent shock waves throughout the traditional and treacherous political parties who have given this great country away. The amount of immigrants from the EU who have come here taking jobs, working for a pittance, claiming benefits, using the resources and applying for council housing has wreaked havoc and caused the utmost anxiety and pain amongst British people.

The police are under strict orders to deal with people harshly if they dare to complain in public, so people rage and scream in pain on local talk radios and print media. We were warned about the Bulgarians and Romanians last December but the vast majority of immigrants from the EU are the Polish. I shudder to imagine what Poland must be like for so many millions to flee their home country and look for a better life in dull, grey , boring Britain. Communist background fearing the Sluzba, they have sought refuge here in the UK standing in alleyways drinking their Tyskie beer bought for a pound in the local ethnic shops. They contribute nothing to society except only to fill up the waiting rooms in doctors surgeries.

When Germany invaded Poland and you didn't have the resolve, strength or mindset to resist, we came to your aid and this is how you repay us.

It's time to go home.

Go ahead, millions of non-europeans are waiting to take our place.


Hahahahah


In such case its time for British business to gtfo from Poland and other EE states. Words ,,they take our jobs" will get completely new meaning. Germans, French, Italians and others will gladly take your place on this market.

I'm a Pole living in Poland btw.

He didn't win. The result wouldn't translate to any MPs. And now they've got a few councillors there's even more opportunity to see what clowns they are.

German' s, French and Italians do not constitute a threat to the overall cultural well- being of indigenous people. We welcome immigrants as they bring a sense of global tradition, experience and awareness of our own culture. They come from a similar economic background and pose no threat. I refuse to believe that we are the superior race simply because we have been a dominant force on Planet Earth. Other's may disagree but that is their problem.

Britain and it's politicians should abide by the political law that a country's first moral law is the protection of its citizens. We have no obligation to communist foreigners.

Do tell.

Do you mean Ed Miliband? I guess you could say he 'won' the local elections by gaining the most seats.


Oh that tool... :D
They came 'fourth'. :D


LOL
UKIP didn't win a majority in any council. They still don't have a single MP! :D Many independents can get to Westminster without all the millionaire businessmen backing them! :D


There was once a political party in 1930s Germany that you might have liked even more than UKIP. They used the media to spread their ignorance, intolerance and hatred of 'Communists' and 'foreigners'. Poorly educated small town people sometimes buy too readily into extreme nationalistic rhetoric and dogma sometimes with disastrous consequences. UKIP and the American Teabaggers use certain nasty populist ideologies to appeal to most ignorant of voters...


Absolutely. Half of them will probably be expelled for posting racist nonsense on FB if past performance is anything to go by. ;)

You're talking about Brits as well I imagine. Most of the drunk people I see out and about, being anti social and smashing stuff, tend to be the Brits.


That fact that people still think this is true [as you have proven] is remarkable. Yeah Britain helped Poland, so much so that 6 million were killed and Poland was occupied for over 40 years.


You do realize that Polish people going to Britain are not communists right? Why do you think they are going to Britain, ass-hat?


Hold on. Working for a pittance. You mean working for very little money, because many British people can't be bothered too?


Well I'll agree with you on Britain being dull and boring.

Yes, though I preferred his brother.


A bit like the old SDP and of course UKIP's forerunner the Referendum party. They get a protest vote then fizzle away.


Being one yourself, you would certainly know. Personally when I visit the UK I don't see mass drunkenness. In fact I see pubs that have closed and others empty. I suppose it depends where you spend your evenings.

Seems that a fair amount of you responded before the actual final results were known. All I ask is get your information right before replying and do not let your emotional hysteria overcome you.

Weilki Polak -

Granted, Britain has its fair share of yobs and drunks. An underclass has developed over the last couple of decades partly because traditional industries have been decimated and outsourced to China etc., but mainly because millions of Eastern European migrants have been allowed to come here and , been given council housing based on eligibility, not nationality leaving no hope for local people.

2. Poland occupied for 40 years? So...get rid of the occupiers....man up for Gods sakes. You sound like you want the Brits to wipe your ass for you all the time.

3. Polish people going to Britain are from a communist background and carry this culture with them which is why they find it difficult to integrate. They fear people may be the secret police having learned this mindset from their parents. Yes Britain is dull and boring but it gave the world great music ( bands) and a great football league as well as having been renowned for having arguably the best TV programmes in the world. Boasted the best media in the world at one stage but a lot has gone belly up since politicians decided to dilute the culture by opening the borders to communist countries. It's not that Brits can't be bothered to to certain jobs. People here understand the class system and resolve and dignity are more important than money.

Having said that, I suppose if I lived in a terrible place like Poland and foreign politicians welcomed me with open arms to go to their country for jackpot salaries of £7 per hour, I might very well have been tempted myself.

Jon357 -

A lot of pubs have closed down. As people fled the inner cities to get away from the mass immigration since 1997, the people who took over the inner city housing were Eastern Europeans, Muslims, Somalians, Eritreans, Nigerians, Latvians etc and they were definitely not the people who frequented pubs.

Bluesfan -

I would advise you to understand the meaning of the term 'racist' before you use it. It is a Trotskyite expression meaning the love of one's nationality as opposed to the hatred of others. It's modern meaning has become irrelevant now as people have been using this word to describe people who order a white coffee. Anyone who now uses this expression show themselves up as ignorant fools.

Where to start...?
Well, Poles and others give a lot to the UK GDP... Pay taxes take relatively low benefits.. Which are minimal incomparesment to what give in to the economy as a whole.

You should sort out you underclass of chavs and pregnant teens and their local habitats of council houses and coops or icelands.
Everything in this country is equal.. Wages as well thus the argument that those bloody foreigners come here take our jobs because they get paid less is flawed, if that is the case the cases in which this is true should be directed to courts or unions.

I am not calling you racist .. I am just saying that Eastern Europeans are giving in much much more than they are taking out.

It has been proved beyond all shadow of a doubt 'Goofy the dog' that immigrants take more out of the infrastructure, public services, health care, education than what they actually contribute.

Right next door to me, the new owner has had a team of around a dozen Polish builders doing heavy construction work for the last three months. An Englishman sources the work and gets in touch with his Polish mate (living in London and claiming benefits) . He in turn uses his contacts in Poland to recruit builders, bus them over here, put them up and probably pay them around £7 / £8 per hour cash in hand which is about four times the amount they would earn in Poland.

Meanwhile, they don't spend money here, oh no, they save everything and perhaps buy some Tyskies at night to drink in street corners.

Alternatively, there are those who settle here and as their great advantage presently is working for less, they don't even meet the tax threshold and pay any tax. Meanwhile, they bring their wives, mothers, brothers sisters children, and are therefore eligible for council flats over and above locals. Sad really that politicians have betrayed the people like they have.

You can't blame Muslim or other newcomers for that. The specific pubs I'm thinking of are in areas with low immigration.


Social housing is allocated on the basis of need and eligibility rather than nationality.

But hey, if you don't like it, Oxon, you can always go back to impersonating public officials in order to harass people. Or was the last warning from the police enough to stop you?

UKIP are just the BNP in nicer suits. It makes me ashamed to be English.


Oh Jesus... you come onto a POLISH forum site to complain about immigration and Polish immigrants? I think you should look at the facts before you open your mouth. Immigrants have actually contributed to the British economy more than they have taken out.

Alos, there are jobs for anybody who needs them. Maybe people should stop being so lazy and look harder for a job. They don't just jump into your lap you know! People may need to go to college and try harder for work, but this is natural progression.

I shudder to think what England will be like soon if people begin to have your mentality...

Its kind of where it is right now based on yours.

Mine? Why mine? Please do explain.

Not yours actually, the crap that you have picked up along the way, you seem like a bit of drone.

Specifically this sentence "Alos, there are jobs for anybody who needs them. Maybe people should stop being so lazy and look harder for a job. They don't just jump into your lap you know! People may need to go to college and try harder for work, but this is natural progression."

You sound just like David Cameron. The world doesn't work like that anymore Cookie.

I respect your opinion, and this is mine. Nothing has happened in my life or those around me to alter this opinion.

I also certainly will never vote UKIP

Its not your opinion at all, its what has been subliminally brainwashed into you and you are now passing that off as opinion.


Its not natural progression, it is the inherent flaw built into the freemarket capitalist system.


This is also debatable, and the contexts of the term 'contributed' are vast. Hell, the context of the word 'immigrant' is vast.

I am a natural progression supporter in the sense that the planet needs to unite if we are to survive as a planet in the long term, however, i would say immigrants have basically benefited themselves and their families back home more than 1: the UK economy and 2: the average UK household. That said in terms of moving one step closer to global unity and the realisation that we are all one, its a thumbs up.

I deduce that you have a Polish boyfriend and are a tad biased.


I dont see many reasons how anybody could.

Does calling me British constantly make you feel better? Do you sleep easier. I know you'll just reply that you call me it because that's what I am, but you mention in in topics like this when it has nothing to do with the topic.


You have to be kidding. You do realize that Britain in no way helped Poland during the war, unless you consider dropping leaflets on Germany not to bomb Poland, help[ that really worked didn't it]. You also seem to forget that a lot of Polish pilots died fighting for Britain. I I break it down in to the basics for you, Poland helped out Britain and got no help in return for it. So basically Britain betrayed Poland.


You have no clue what you are talking about. First of all communist is not a culture that Polish people ever had and young Polish people did not live through those times. They didn't learn to fear anything from their parents. They live completely different lives to their parents.

Oxon's views, especially the racist bits directed toward Polish people, are not typical of most Brits.

Yes, our anti-Europe party, UKIP, topped the recent EU election. But still only with minority support.

What this shows is that a significant minority of British people would like us to leave the European Union. It doesn't mean we want zero immigration or to send all immigrants home, it just means that some of us would like the decision about how many come in, from where and on what terms to be decided democratically by our own government.

Absolutely and that is understandable. People do not seem to be able to distinguish the difference between racism and wanting to have some sort of hold on how many foreigners enter a country and leaving the EU in order for the country to be able to decide its own views.

There is nothing wrong with UKIPs ideologies, but they do unfortunately attract some racists.

When are you people going to finally realise that the term 'racist' that you constantly read and listen to in your mainstream media has lost all manner of meaning. It was introduced to stifle debate and close down argument when one made politically incorrect but factual statements. When I articulate to a person with limited vocabulary and win my argument, all he/she can do is call me a racist in return. This is what we have to put up with nowadays as security firms, shops, supermarkets and councils employ these people who accept the jackpot salaries of £6 per hour.

I believe that Britain is a far superior place to live. Why? I don't see millions of Brits bussing over to Romania or Poland to set up shop and/or claim welfare in those countries. Neither do I see millions of Brits fleeing to Nigeria, Somalia or Sudan in escaping a tinpot dictator. Parts of the UK now look like 3rd world s***holes, most violent crime is perpetrated by people with strange sounding foreign names as verified by the disproportionate amount of prisoners in UK prisons.

And answer this Einsteins. If immigration is so dam beneficial, how come Australia doesn't import millions of Poles, Packis and Somalians to 'boost' their economy? After all, they have the space.

For Poles Britain is not boring - it is a fascinating country worth living in and working for - isn't it a time to switch places. So welcome to Poland and make it your country - free it from Communist background, the Służba and bring in also a better beer than Polish Tyskie thus contribute to the Polish society. By the way, do you happen to be a doctor.

Since you are both new or relatively new to the PF, you don't know that Oxon comes here from time to time with this usual stuff of his. Arguing with him is pointless as he never changes his views. It is perhaps much wiser to treat him like a sort of comedian who has just come to revive this sleepy at the moment Polish Forum. But in a sense he is just more honest than others in expressing openly and bluntly his views which are shared by many of his compatriots. I wouldn't call the British people "racist", but the feel of superiority towards people from outside the Western European and North American cultural circle can be felt distinctly even on these fora. It is usually quite subtle and I think it may not even be felt as "being superior" by the people who exercise it which means it has been strongly "built" into them by their surroundings. This has been rather aptly expressed by Oxon:


Notice the use of words like: threat, cultural well-being of indigenous people, bringing a sense of our own culture or similar background. I am sure you both are people who do not experience this sense of British or "Western" superiority towards Poles or other East Europeans or other people in general, but that doesn't mean the phenomenon is absent in people's feeling.

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As for the word "indigenous" used by Oxon; he once said that he was determined to defend Britain against all possible invaders. I asked him then if he can produce any evidence that he himself was not a descendant of the invading Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Danes or Normans. He was not able to comment on that, he was evidently so shaken by putting the problem in this light that all he managed to retort with was: "What bloody international corporation do you work for?" after which some not-too-witty moderator of the PF has moved all this to the bin, so I am not able now to quote this interesting exchange for you.

Nevertheless, I wish you a lot of joy in following Oxon's contribution to the PF.

Only when you run down your own people. The public drunkenness you mention is something you can see as much of in central Warsaw as in central London.


Crapola


Something suggests you haven't spent much time in the developing world.


Spot on, except I'd say it was more a protest vote by the elderly (who make up a disproportionate number of the voters) in an election with a low turnout during a period of austerity. If anything Labour were the winners.


I don't mind a healthy dose of egalitarian politics, however Poles who've settled in the UK do tell me they enjoy the freedom.

And yes, migration is good for the economy.

If you do ever make it to Poland, you might want to pay a visit to the British war cemetery in Krakow: there you can find the graves of some of the British men who died fighting in the Warsaw uprising and who you now lie about. The reality is that more British airmen took part in the Warsaw Uprising than Polish airmen took part in the Battle of Britain. The fact that British people do not feel the need to remind Polish people of that fact despite so many reminders about the Poles who took part in the Battle of Britain tells you something about British people and also shows you that UKIP will never be a serious political force.

Yeah, they just things like this


Oh and by the way, being somebody who lives there, I see and hear first hand just how much Brits harp on about not only helping Poland, but winning the war and basically thinking they saved Europe. They did no such thing.

I've had a long break from PF, mainly because I was sick of reading nonsense from people who don't live in Poland but consider themselves experts because their grandmothers were born here. oxon is another creature entirely. He was spouting his bile before I had a sabbatical and he's still at it, despite the fact that he has nothing whatsoever to do with Poland. He is also completely unrepresentative of Britain, and to quote him as such shows deep ignorance. The Nigel Farage party has one year in which to embarass itself before the GE. I'm looking forward to hearing the great saviour excuse bad apple after bad apple.

Hardly anyone from Poland or elsewhere in the EU come to Britain to claim benefits. They work, sometimes in jobs that British people don't want and sometimes in areas where we have skills shortages.

Focus your energies on campaigning to changes to the tax and benefits system that mean British people are always better off working rather than watching Jeremy Kyle. When you've done that, by all means try to restrict the numbers coming into the country. But just fixing the second 'problem' will create far more difficulties than it solves.

You'd be surprised:

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