California's PC dictatorship in action

What does this have to do with Poland? Only this -- if we're not careful and vigilant, the same PC brainwashing including Church-bashing, pro-liberitnism and anti-patrent propaganda will seep over to Poland sooner than you think.
Not convinced? Then read on:

What your child is guaranteed in California public schools

Because of bad laws, lack of pro-family laws, and politically-correct trends, here's what kids are guaranteed to receive in California public schools:

rescueyourchild.com/The_Problem.html

That's been lifted verbatim from dozens of nutty non-European websites. 5 seconds on google brought them all up.
And btw, point 4 is about evolution, something which the Catholic Church believes in.

Polonius3 if you were a student then you'd fail on account of plagiarism! Plus this is totally not related to Poland and not even related to Europe. I look forward to when the all educational systems are free from religious crap that your ilk keep trying to stuff down our throats!

And you, of course, support the marginalisaiton of parents in the education process -- a common theme of many of the above-listed California points. They should pay taxes, keep their mouth shut and do what the "entlightened" (?!) libertines tell them. Is that what the Cahtolic Church (which you love to cite whenever it serves your propaganda purposes believes?

If anything the opposite is happening at the moment.

So tell us, Pol3, do you object to the teaching of evolution in Poland or elsewhere as your post suggests.

Perhaps Americans who object to those points should go to California and do something about it?


I fear we'll be waiting quite some time for a reply to that question.

Au contraire, did you want me to expurgate the things I didn't agree with. That would be tampering or censorship. Actually the only thing there was evolution. JPII made it abdundantly clear that science and faith are not mutually exclusive but complement each other. Evolution is not banned by the Church, but Ameircan Evangelicals (Baptists) are strong on creationism.
The main thing I wished to call attention to was the attempted marginalisation of parents by the PC/LGBT lobbies.

In short, you had nothing to really say, but couldn't help yourself saying it.

You paint a bleaker picture of the world than the rest of us notice

But you do, esp. as part of the Jon & Harry tag team.Don't you ever have anything orginal to say? It's always a rehash of the Brit Bully Team.

So nobody is allowed to disagree with you, and that if more than one do, it must be a 'team'. That chimes very well with the post you started this thread with. Basically, some internet loon got upset that schools in California don't do exactly what he wants, don't promote his religion, don't teach the kids according to his narrow and bitter interpretation of life and dare to teach science rather than theology in science lessons.

Yet in real life, I don't see any mass withdrawal of kids from schools. Nor (and those California schools are under democratic control - most people are parents. by the way) do I see their policies being changed.

You (and the author of the 100+ word quote you posted and tried to pass off as your own) are getting all worked up about things that just aren't real. People are intelligent enough to make their own minds up.

Absolute bollocks! No plagiarism involved! I simply shared something I found on the web that corresponded to things happening all over the US. Sharing means throwing something up for discussion. even if one does't agree with every point, like the evolution/creaitonism issue.

Maybe you just 'forgot' to say it was something you'd got from a site and which is all over the web or give a source etc. That or knew the quote would break the 100 word rule. Be careful, Pol3. Among all the ranting you do occasionally have interesting things to say, and cheating, lying, plagiarism etc diminish the impact of every other single word you write.

In this case your 100+ word unattributed quote is just paranoia, lies, hysteria and hyperbole.

Didn't forget. It didn't cross my mind. Regardless of who made up the list, the important thing was that it accurately reflected widespread criticism of the libertine education system in many places. This is not a scholarly symposium requiring footnotes, cross-references, attribtution, etc. but a normal, casual discussion. The merits of the arguments were the subject, not back-biting, nitpicking and hole-punching to derail the discussion, something some PF-ers have mastered to perfection.
The question is: do tax-paying parents have a right to be concerned about what their kids are being taught? Especially when teachers represent the we-know-what's-best leftist-libertine option which runs counter to majority opinion.

Yes. Fortunately in Poland parents have the option of withdrawing their child from religious indoctrination classes. In countries such as the UK, attendance at religious education classes is mandatory and parents can be fined (or even imprisoned) if their children refuse to attend those classes. Also in the UK it is compulsory for all state-funded schools to have a daily act of collective worship. Thank the FSM that here in Poland our children are not forced to undergo such brainwashing.

In the West do tax-payong parents have the right to withdraw their young children of kindergaten and early-primary school age from libertine sex indc'ocrtination classes. You know "cosy corners" where mutual fondling of 4-6 years olds is encouraged?

They don't actually have that right; they can't have that right, because they can't have the right to withdraw from something that simply does not exist. I personally have spent a good chunk of my life working in education, my Mrs still does: neither of us have ever heard of anything even remotely similar to the ""cosy corners" where mutual fondling of 4-6 years olds is encouraged" which you refer to so often. Frankly, I'm slightly concerned that you talk so often about the fondling of 4-6 years olds. Not even the utterly bat-shiit crazy list of points you now say you simply pasted in the first post goes anything like as far off the wall as that.


I have heard of students being told to simply write "I'm a Catholic" as a reply to any biology exam question related to sex education (so they don't have to bother memorising all of that for exams). Got to say that I rather like that, even though it is somewhat irresponsible.

forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=163065.0

It's every parents nightmare - your 4 year old daughter's preschool teacher calls and says "Hi, we just needed to let you know an older child took your daughter to the Cozy Corner today, and when we found them he'd stripped himself and removed your daughter's panties and was fondling her."

You're claiming that if somebody posts on a forum somewhere (and a real whacko one at that) saying something could happen and that means it has happened in reality? How utterly bizarre. Perhaps somebody somewhere will one day link to your posts here about the EU intending to forcibly microchip all new-born babies in Poland and claim that that proves their claims about the gubbermint microchipping all new-born babies.

See how obsessive you are? . The microchip thing whizzed by me as one of the thousands of things that do years ago. I dont' even recall if it was on a public-affairs website, blog or some discussion forum or what, but only you have latched onto it. That is called obsessive-compulsive disorder and can be treated.

It's also fiction. Please don't uncritically believe stuff you read on nutty websites. The internet is sadly smeared with stuff like that.

You display a total disreagrd for your fellow man's feelings. This mother was voicing her heartfelt concern for her child. That does make her a nutter? Have you ever sampled parenthood? If you had, I'm sure you'd have been more empathetic.

Nutters can have 'heartfelt concern' for their kids too. Some even deny necessary surgical operations, homeschool, refuse vaccination etc.


A bit more than 'sampled'!!

correction

I'm surprised you wrote in another thread something to the effect that "one must show compassion for others and oneself". You should have added "for others but only if they share my agenda and priorities." If they happen to be religious, they are (according to you) misguided, believe fairy tales and wallow in medieval superstition.... If they oppose homo-marriage they are bigots, hypocrites, sodophobes or some such. Compassion?

Many sadly are.

I don't see much in that statement for sure!

The fact that you even half believed it for a split second, let alone that you posted here claiming that it was going to happen, speaks volumes about you as a person. As do the number of times every day that you post about gay men, and, more recently, the number of times you post about pre-pubescent children masturbating.

On a deliberately moderate note, because dear God, this thread with all it's scatological hysteria needs it, I noticed this which is either a misunderstanding (deliberate or otherwise) or just a lie:


Worth mentioning that instead of so-called 'marginalisation', parents are more involved with the school system now than at any time in the history of the industrialised world.

Which, a pretty much everybody who has ever set foot in a classroom in a professional role will tell you, is most definitely not always a good thing.

Especially when parents find out about the lewd practices to which some "progressive" teachers and LGBT agitators expose kids to at a tender young, innocent age.

You just can't get your head round the fact that they very simply do not do that, can you.
Although I suppose we all have things we just can't get our heads round, for example I'm simply astounded by how often you write about homosexuals, and by how frequently you now write about pre-pubescent children and things like masturbation.