Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

That could well be part of the deal that Russia clearly craves, because if this war goes on for much longer, Putin and his Jewish mates will not suvive.

Hey@Dirk diggler

Russia will lose in the end.

And where will that leave you
As a traitor that said that it is Ok for Russia to invade Poland to "Clear out the scum"
Neo Nazi prat with a complete misunderstanding of Polish history.

What do your sick fantasies about killing people have to do with anything?

That ain't no fantasy, maf. It's already a reality in so many homes in Western "democracies" where brave morons are celebrated more than normal people.

Since you are a great contributor here, I beg you ... don't be an imbecile and stay where you are.


Freedom to do what?

Why is it so hard for all of you brainiacs to spit it out? There are only so many "freedoms" an average person cares about.

So what are those "freedoms" an average guy under Z would lose under P?

Two comments from dailymail.com worth posting...

It's not heroic to lead your country into war against an enemy you have no chance of defeating. Zelensky is a vain man leading a heroic people.

And...

He wants every Ukrainian to fight to the last man, then when the Russians get close he wants to negotiate? He's all wind and hot air.

Did I say already that heroes are morons? Or was it imbeciles? I forgot...

He didn't lead his country into war - he was in situ, minding his own business, when the Russians invaded

Well it's clearly not getting their **** totally recked like the jewkraine is...

@Cojestdocholery
Learn how to speak English, do cholery...


A hell of a lot of land with all the resources it brings. So far Putin has completely added Crimea to Russia and Donetsk, Donbass, Luhansk are definetely next with the eastern half of Ukraine being a strong possibility.


BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!! Yeah, surrender to the jewkranian army... surrender to the pro white nationalists running around with their israeli tavors....

Like it or not, it's Russia that's invading and occupying jewkraine, not the other way around... Judensky is crying uncle to NATO begging them for help. He likely doesn't want all the money he took from fellow tiny hat tribe oligarchs to become public knowledge...

Well, they did say he was a comedian... he is still hilarious!!!


Actually it's much more than 20%... Russia controls all of Crimea, Donbass, Donetsk, Luhansk, Melitopol, etc. Odessa and Maruipol are all but done with Kiev and Kharkhiv soon to follow. By this time next year, I'd bet that Russia controls everything east from Kiev to Odessa.

That's far more than all of NATO with the "mighty" US army did in the first few weeks of Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

Stick to one account please

Ukraine lost majority of its best population in WWI, WWll and Holodomor and the rest of the best immigrated after 1991. Obviously it cannot become a developed country without a widescale eugenics program. But neither will be the West in the future.

Russia has apparantly lost their 4th general during the invasion (out of 20) near Mariupol. Damn, those Ukrainians are really fighting for every inch of their country.

Their courage deserves a praise, but the question what they exactly fighting for? They need to refuse to participate in imperialist war.

Their countries independence and future.

I already answered that question with Z-P=0. Which means fighting or nothing.
Nobody here said that Z>P and how. All I got is that mysterious, worn-out "freedom" but never freedom to do what and from what.


And now this crap - "independence" and "future" - without an explanation of what those words mean.
Unless the good citizens of Ukraine can do whatever they want and do not depend on their government in any way. No taxes, no rules, no penal code - just a jungle with the survival of the fittest as the only MO.

Dealing with kids is rewarding but it sure is exasperating, too.

It is all about NATO, after all...From dailymail.com:

Zelensky says progress of peace talks is 'realistic' and his team believe deal will be struck with Vladimir Putin 'within a week or two' because Russian forces will run out of troops and supplies as he concedes that Ukraine will NEVER join NATO

So it took all those dead, the refugees, the destruction, and my canceled plans to visit Poland again to get to this point.
Conclusion: Putin was right! Hahahahahahaha...

One more time...It's all about NATO!!! And not about USSR 2.0

It means not being part of Russia, maintaining their democracy and joining the EU. Those are goals which are realistic to achieve and would provide the Ukrainians with a better future.


You can repeat it a thousand times, doesnt make it any less false. Putin spelt out in his speech why he attacked. He believes that the Ukraine is only allowed to exist as part of Russia.

Instead of parroting Tucker Carlson, maybe you could invest 15 minutes and read a transcript of Putin's speech? It is all there.

I am asking over and over for specific "freedoms" under Z vs under P that matter to the average guy, not a lecture about "democracy".

There are many people in China who are more free than the lower 40% of Americans because they have money, can travel, and have a condo in Hawaii while many Americans can't even dream about it.

Back to Ukraine's freedoms and democracy...Which parts are worth dying for?

This is one of your fatal flaws Rich. Since you don't believe that thereis a fundamental difference between living in a democracy and a dictatorship, you do not think it is worth fighting to preserve the former.

Sad, really. Perhaps you think that your cynicism makes you smart, but it just reveals a complete lack of empathy for people who do not enjoy rights you take for granted.

Just a hint: You can rant on this forum and at home as much as you want about Biden. Do that in China about the president and you will be in jail in no time.

US Senate Unanimously Condemns Vladimir Putin As War Criminal

"The U.S. Senate on Tuesday unanimously passed a resolution condemning Russian President Vladimir Putin as a war criminal, a rare show of unity in the deeply divided Congress."

ndtv.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis-us-senate-unanimously-condemns-vladimir-putin-as-war-criminal-2825354

Good old America - people always calling a spade a spade. Well done, Senators! :)

@GefreiterKania
Public opinion also condemns all Putin supporters as war criminals.

Just to confirm, Pierre Zakrzewski, the camera man killed in Ukraine was the son of a Polish father and French mother. He grew up in Ireland and his mother and brother still live there. Back in 2004 he wrote in the yearbook of his former secondary school, St Conleth's in Dublin, something worth remembering at this time:

"When you think you have seen the worst excesses of man's inhumanity to man you realise the strength of the human spirit."

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis.

Don`t be such a trecherous fascist pig. . The latest poll says the support for heroic Ukraine and her President is the highest in Poland of all European countries - over 90%.


No, you are a fascist renegade who only holds Polish papers. You are not truly Polish in heart. If you were, you would support our brothers in Ukraine, instead of those RuSS Assian savages. Bugger off.

@Atch
RiP great man Pierre Zakrzewski.

@ Pawian
How right you are Pawian. Adrian isn't even a true American in heart let alone Polish. Despite all the nonsense that we talk on this forum sometimes and the insults exchanged, Americans are good people with kind and generous hearts. The American people have an amazing track record of helping others, giving and caring. In the last few weeks the Polish people have shown that side of their own character. Adrian really isn't Polish at all. The one thing that unites Poles is a hatred and distrust of the Russian regime - if you don't hate and distrust Russia, you're not Polish.

@ Alien
A great Polish man! :))

And shooting up pregnant women is a good one?

Russia is calling in more forces to go to Ukraine. Since the Ukraine meat grinder is doing so well, Putin needs more bodies. He wouldnt be doing this unless there are a lot more dead than is being reported.

@Atch
"if you don't hate and distrust Russia, you're not Polish." I have not spoken to a Pole yet who would side with Russia. I have not spoken to a real American that would side with Russia either. The trolls here who are in the USA should be charged as traitors, it is that simple.

Absolutely, because that's what they are. The things they're saying are treasonous. This is a de facto wartime situation and they are on the enemy side. Actually rather than charging them I'd send them to Russia and let them see how much they enjoy living under Daddy Vlad's regime.

It's been suggested that Russia is using this to thin the ranks of generals... (purges among top military are a fairly regular thing in Soviet/Russia practice. They want to keep the top small and unable to challenge for power so they kill a bunch of them.

Russia should be kicked out of G20 and replaced by the next country on the list...

thefirstnews.com/article/poland-deserves-russias-spot-in-g20-says-minister-28754

which happens to be...


:)

If the format is extended to G117 in the future, then Russia after sanctions and Burkina Faso will be able to join too :)

The civilian got out of his car and raised his hands above his head...

youtu.be/IxmVl_f2jCY

... but RuSSian "soldiers" still shot him. Criminals the lot of them - SS.

The freedom to say "I want to give my opinion" without being arrested?

Would you be willing to stop writing here after a visit from friendly government representatives telling you it's bad for the country?

If not, then you're on the side of Ukraine whether you want to admit it or not...

Novichok is not such a great nickname.... you need a new name that reflects your bold pacifist stance toward invading forces...

Moscow Mir? (bilingual but... could work) Sir Peace-alot? Piter's ghost?

Anyone else have any good ideas?

@mafketis
He is stubborn like Noviczołg

Speaking of czołgi....

here a brave Russian tank shoots a lone civilian....

twitter.com/DenisMarenchak/status/1503986025076600834

I suppose if everyone just surrendered and collaborated from day one like Novi would have... it might not have happened?

@mafketis
How about detachedfromreality? That seems suitable. Not only is it accurate, but it really isn't offensive. Something new for him.

Lets all play the game of LIFE, Russian version. What happens when you land on the Bankruptcy square and can not pay on your bonds?

berkshireeagle.com/opinion/columnists/james-brooke-russia-sanctions-grow-faster-larger-than-south-africa-sanctions-in-1980s/article_b64056b4-a173-11ec-8490-dfc5d95f525b.html