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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



mafketis
13 Apr 2022  #8221

Interesting thread (in Polish)

Tadeusz Giczan, a Belarussian dissident who has lived in Poland (currently in the UK) found that Belarussian special services has created its own little eco-system of pro-Russian channels on telegram. Some of the content seems machine translated from Russian other content seems to have been written or translated by Polish speakers.

The toal audience is maybe around 15 thousand, give or take a few thousand) but the content might be shared on other social media where up to 1 or so percent might believe it.

twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1514208609441353729

Paulina
13 Apr 2022  #8222

But they had enough time to write For Kids or something like that on the rocket.

What does it have to do with the hasty withdrawal of Russian troops from Bucha, Irpin etc? Anyone could write "In revenge for the kids". We don't know which kids - Russian or Ukrainian. It's not like this missile was signed: "Russian missile".

UAF SOLDIER (PSYCHOPATH) ADMITS MURDERING FEMALE CIVILIAN

I'm sure there are at least some psychopaths on the Ukrainian side, but:
1. I don't believe anything that comes from Russia Today or any other Russian state news sources.
2. Even if those men in videos are Ukrainian POWs captured by Russians, if I were in their place I would also say anything the Russians wanted me to say in order not to get raped, tortured and killed. The first guy has an injured lip, so probably he was at least beaten.

Russia-hating PF swamp has no bottom and shame.

No, it's the Putin-loving PF swamp that has no bottom and shame, as can be clearly seen here everyday.

Novichok
13 Apr 2022  #8223

Russian or Ukrainian. It's not like this missile was signed: "Russian missile".

Whoever wrote whatever, one thing is sure: it's the Russians who did it. In lieu of "it", fill in your lie of the day to keep Western wh*ores happy. Sorry, I meant reporters.

I don't believe anything that comes from Russia Today or any other Russian state news sources.

But believe Uks, Z, and every Western anti-Russian outlet - implied Paulina.

Crnogorac3
13 Apr 2022  #8224

1

What do Ukrainian women do while their boyfriends, husbands and brothers are in a surrounded area in Mariupol. It simply awakens in a person the desire to continue to fight.

Atch
13 Apr 2022  #8225

What do Ukrainian women do

Get trafficked maybe? Other Ukrainian women get left behind to be raped or murdered. But don't forget the Ukrainian women in the armed forces.

It simply awakens in a person the desire to continue to fight.

Yes, doesn't it? The desire to protect your women and children from being exploited by scum.

Paulina
13 Apr 2022  #8226

What do Ukrainian women do while their boyfriends, husbands and brothers are in a surrounded area in Mariupol.

You are truly a disgusting piece of sh1t:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10712027/amp/Majority-prostitution-arrests-Sweden-March-involved-Ukrainian-women.html

"'Operation Cod', conducted in March, made the shocking discovery that Ukrainian women, often fleeing their homeland alone or with children, were being exploited and trafficked to Sweden to work as prostitutes."

"Shirin Tinnesand, refugee and migration coordinator at the NGO said that Ukrainian refugees are at risk of being exposed to human trafficking, prostitution, organ donation.

'Only imagination sets the limits.'"

Yes, doesn't it? The desire to protect your women and children from being exploited by scum.

Indeed.

Atch
13 Apr 2022  #8227

a disgusting piece of sh1t:

And stupid. He trawls the net for headline pieces that will 'look good' for his sad posting efforts, but fails to read the details of the articles. The whole article is about trafficking! It does nothing to discredit Ukrainian women, only to draw attention to the criminals who prey on them.

Crnogorac3
13 Apr 2022  #8228

A French journalist who returned from Ukraine after arriving with volunteer fighters told broadcaster CNews that Americans are directly "in charge" of the war on the ground.

The assertion was made by Le Figaro senior international correspondent Georges Malbrunot.

"I had the surprise, and so did they, to discover that to be able to enter the Ukrainian army, well it's the Americans who are in charge," said Malbrunot.


zerohedge.com/geopolitical/americans-are-charge-war-says-french-journalist-who-returned-ukraine

Atch
13 Apr 2022  #8229

americans-are-charge-war

So, what??

french-journalist-who-returned-ukraine

What's his name? I'm not touching any links from weird sources.

Crnogorac3
13 Apr 2022  #8230

French reporter returning from Ukraine "Americans are directly in charge of the war on the ground."

twitter.com/antiwar_soldier/status/1513596067442569227

Novichok
13 Apr 2022  #8231

Other Ukrainian women get left behind to be raped or murdered.

"Look here, not there" in action aka irrelevant deflection away from the center stage.
Boys and girls, it's about NATO, not bad manners or crimes. For reference, 34,000 women - all white - are raped by black thugs in the US every year and nobody is blaming Obama, aka Obongo, for it.

Today, we also learned what "selective fake outrage" means and how to use it for political gains and as a deflection. Google "babies out of incubators" to see how it works.

I'm not touching any links from weird sources.

If you don't read them, how do you know they are "weird"? Osmosis?

Atch
13 Apr 2022  #8232

Americans are directly "in charge" of the war on the ground.

He also said that the British SAS are there too. Surely, that doesn't surprise you? He actually says that the UK is Ukraine's top ally.

If you don't read them, how do you know they are "weird"?

My psychic powers.

Crnogorac3
13 Apr 2022  #8233

Desperate family of British soldier beg Putin not to carry out 'dire' threats about captured westerners after the Ukrainian Army unit he joined SURRENDERED in Mariupol because they ran out of food and ammunition

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10712653/Captured-British-soldiers-family-beg-Russian-forces-treat-humane-dignified-way.html

What the fvck for did he join?

Wolomin_A
13 Apr 2022  #8234

Ukrainian women

Well actually you will find that the most popular and numerous prostitutes in Dubai are from Russia and are Russian, as the Russians fleeing sanctions to Dubai will soon find out :D I guess the market price is about to drop much further :D There is even a saying that they have in Poland to describe a scantily dressed woman, 'Ubrała się jak Ruska Kur*a' she's dressed like a Russian *****. Not for nothing do they have this saying I suppose :D

Atch
13 Apr 2022  #8235

What the fvck for did he join?

Well, he's lived there for years. He didn't join because of the war. But he's a good person, do you know what that is?? He used to be a care worker, looking after the old, the disabled in the UK. He's what they call a 'a good lad' in the Midlands, where he's from.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Apr 2022  #8236

Does anybody also feel uncomfortable how russian attack and behaviour makes actually Nazis look good? Modern and the originals?

I now stumble on twitter about threads comparing german and russian behaviour during WWII....overwhelmingly favourizing/preferring Germans and their common relations to civilians....

Abit shocking being brought up on german war crimes and atrocities....in the end even the Azov Neo-Nazis will come out looking good compared now to the Red Army. I doubt Putin wanted THAT!

Paulina
13 Apr 2022  #8237

@Bratwurst Boy, in a way it's nothing new - in Poland some people also said that the Soviets were worse towards the Polish civillian population than the Nazis. I'm guessing that it was the case in the areas that were the most affected by the Soviet "liberation".

Crnogorac3
13 Apr 2022  #8238

In Mariupol, lieutenant colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Rostislav Lomtev surrendered. He had previously surrendered in Crimea in 2014.

t.me/intelslava/25098

Marines of the armed forces of Ukraine surrendering

t.me/intelslava/25097

Bratwurst Boy
13 Apr 2022  #8239

@Bratwurst Boy, in a way it's nothing new

Still.....feels somewhat strange reading so much....I dunno....sympathy (?) for the german soldiers....

Paulina
13 Apr 2022  #8240

@Bratwurst Boy, what Twitter threads do you mean exactly?

Novichok
13 Apr 2022  #8241

'Ubrała się jak Ruska Kur*a' she's dressed like a Russian *****.

One has to have a body to go with the job. From the TV reports, Uki women are the ugliest.

Did anybody also feel uncomfortable how russian attack and behaviour makes actually Nazis look good?

You got your logic all screwed up. Here, anything that makes Russia look bad is cherished. Uncomfortable? Here? Are you kidding?
Secondly, Germany was the aggressor and did not try to negotiate with the Jews. They were systematically exterminated as a matter of policy, not random chance. None of this applies to Russia today.

Z-hole can stop this war today as some Euro PMs asked him to. The fact that Russia is technically the aggressor does not change this fact. If a black thug put a gun to my wife's head - clearly a crime - and told me to hand him the car keys, I would hand over the keys. So no sermons that Russia is this or that. This is not a high school debate about who is legally right.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Apr 2022  #8242

@Bratwurst Boy, what Twitter threads do you mean exactly?

Initially that one I stumbled over:

twitter.com/4everHelloween/status/1512915588561223686

"When I asked her what she remembered about the World Wars, she said: "Germans are very correct. The Italians always look for a piano and want to make a party. But when the Russians come, everyone runs away because they rape all the women, young and old."

My grandmother told me these WW2 stories, Germans came to lunch,they eat what was cooked. Russians came for dinner, they eat what was cooked and took with them all what was remaining in storage.

My grandmother told how German soldiers were nice and acted with respect. They wanted to trade something with her father but they respected his choice when he declined. Russians just took what they wanted.

etc...

But then just search for anything with Germans, Russians and WWII innit....

jon357
13 Apr 2022  #8243

Tadeusz Giczan, a Belarussian dissident who has lived in Poland

One of the more reliable voices on all this. I started following him when the border crisis was at his height.

What's his name? I'm not touching any links from weird sources

Worth being very careful about opening links from Crnogorac etc (or any pro-russiascum sources) even if they look respectable. There have been a lot of issues with malware etc from russiascum sources.

1. I don't believe anything that comes from Russia Today

Very wise Paulina. They exist to lie.

Paulina
13 Apr 2022  #8244

From the TV reports, Uki women are the ugliest.

You are outdoing yourself in your retardedness lol So now you not only adore Putin, but also hate Ukrainian women? Why? And what TV reports claim that Ukrainian women are the "ugliest"? lol

Z-hole can stop this war today as some Euro PMs asked him to.

Putin can stop this war like many Euro presidents, prime ministers and many ordinary people in Europe asked him to.

and told me to hand him the car keys, I would hand over the keys.

Would you hand over to him and his buddies your wife, daughters and your granddaughters so they could rape, torture and murder them though?

jon357
13 Apr 2022  #8245

Putin can stop this war

He started it, he can stop it.

Would you hand over to him and his buddies your wife, daughters and your granddaughters

He probably has already.

Novichok
13 Apr 2022  #8246

They exist to lie.

Quote the worst three today.

But when the Russians come, everyone runs away because they rape all the women, young and old."

You mean like the Somalis in Sweden and black thugs in "America"?
BTW, do you have any numbers on how many were raped in Berlin and how many did it with them for food and survival?

but also hate Ukrainian women?

Are you illiterate or just Polish stupid? Where did I say that I hate them?

And what TV reports claim that Ukrainian women are the "ugliest"?

No, genius, TV reports don't "claim". TV reports show pictures and vids. With love and sadness in my heart, I claim that they are the ugliest I have seen. You can infer from this all you want.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Apr 2022  #8247

At last:

EU finances further arms deliveries

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-eu-finanziert-weitere-waffenlieferungen-a-3d49d730-ab8b-46ea-9b9f-e9d4bf020ebb

The EU countries have agreed to finance a third 500 million euro package for weapons and equipment. This increases the total amount of aid for Kyiv to 1.5 billion euros.

At least here we do something worthwhile:

...The money for the military aid comes from the so-called European Peace Facility. It is a new EU financing instrument that can also be used to strengthen the capabilities of armed forces in partner countries. For the period from 2021 to 2027, the peace facility is endowed with around five billion euros. According to Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht (SPD), Germany finances around a quarter of the EU support. ...

Novichok
13 Apr 2022  #8248

Germany finances around a quarter of the EU support. ...

...to make the war shorter and less bloody, of course. That was sarcasm.

jon357
13 Apr 2022  #8249

The EU countries have agreed to finance a third 500 million euro package for weapons and equipment

Finally.

Now time to stop paying the ***** a billion a day for gas.

Bratwurst Boy
13 Apr 2022  #8250

BTW, do you have any numbers on how many were raped in Berlin and how many did it with them for food and survival?

There have been lotsa books written about it.....I get by what my own grandmother told me about her time as a mother with three little girls in a destroyed Berlin, after her flight from the East, with her husband lost in some russian POW camp....

They have been good and bad (I told them before here).....anything between a Russian looking into her baby buggy, seeing the baby and putting a loaf of highly coveted bread beside the kid (my mom, as she was the youngest)....to russian soldiers frisking the civilians coming back from the surrounding fields and taking away/stealing the gathered potatoes....but she wasn't raped....I think....


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