Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Just reminding you again of your foolish lie which you posted 19 April and updating you on the truth:

"Russian forces stormed the Ilyich metallurgical plant on April 13 but failed to encircle its remaining defenders, who escaped to the adjacent Azovstal steel plant. Russia has tried sticks and carrots, pounding Azovstal with bunker-busting bombs, and offering safe passage to an estimated 2,500 men still fighting." (Source Al Jazeera, 21 April.

"The commander of Ukrainian forces, Major Serhiy Volyna, told the Washington Post his men will not surrender but will continue to conduct their operations as directed, because no one trusts the Russians not to open fire on surrendering troops. Meantime, the outnumbered and outgunned garrison continued to defy the Russians with limited counterattacks."

Thanks to the actions of your Russian 'liberators':

A 91-year-old Holocaust survivor, Vanda Semyonovna Obiedkova, has died in a basement in Mariupol. Jewish organisation Chabad.org reported that her daughter shared the news after arriving with the rest of her family at a safe location, saying she died April 4, pleading for water in a freezing basement.

She was ten years old when the Nazis occupied Mariupol and killed thousands of Jews in a single day, including her mother. She survived in a basement then, and died in a basement in the same city 81 years later.

To be fair, he was set up by the us gov for speaking against them with that child **** found on his computer, scott ritter was cool once, i had a long chat with him in 2011, he;s gone off the rails now, watched a short clip of him two weeks ago predicting a total russian victory LOLZO. He has no first hand knowledge if what is going on in mariupol and is just fed information by his russian/american 'handler'.

Twice? With an actual victim testifying in court?


Even the famous photo of that flag was posed a few days after the event. As you say, smoke and mirrors...


Now the butcher Kadyrov is saying it will fall by lunchtime. That's only a couple of hours away in Ukraine time and it has not fallen yet.

Tragic. She survived the first Nazi invasion in 1941, but the second Nazi invasion in 2022 killed her. :(

Bloody Nazis and their fuhrer Putin - may God's hand punish them all.

Russia did do a test fire of the Sarmat II which was planned and they notified the US long before the launch that it was a test. No one is afraid, and Russia can talk all it wants. The facts are that Russia is losing to Ukraine with a much smaller army. Russia is synonymous with cheaters, and losers. Enjoy the association. Happy gulag biatches.

It would be hilarious if Russia fails to even grind out a result like taking the rest of Donbass. Seems to me like heads would have to roll if Kramatorsk and Sloviansk are still Ukrainian by May 9th (completely arbitrary to put a date on it, but symbolism matters, no matter what people may say). I mean what can Putin do then? Stand there with his dick in his hand and say: "Donbass was never our objective either"?

@Atch
He was correct and it appears that you are still confused.

biden will deliver a Thursday morning address at the White House detailing his plans to build on the roughly $2.6 billion in military assistance the administration has already approved for Ukraine.

What BS are you telling? If he was taken by Ukrianian soldiers it means he was arrested. Use proper terms, in a time of war it can happen. So what a big deal?


Same scumback like some posters here. For me any American that sides with Russia is a scum and a waste of oxgen.


Nuke the hellhole!

Putin calls off the attack on Azovstal to save the lives of russian soldiers and officers fighting there...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-tak-zeby-mucha-nie-przeleciala-wladimir-putin-zdecydowal-w-s,nId,5974337

... hej, Vlad, I'll give you a hint: you will save even more lives of your soldiers if you withdraw from Ukraine. :)

More to save face on his part due to finding it harder than he thought.


Absolutely and it may yet happen.

I have heard that Putin has ordered his troops to seal it up so that nobody can get out.

What will actually happen is that the Russians will sell their food rations and petrol to the locals and then happily sit in their tanks for a few months knowing they still have all 4 limbs and if they are lucky they will see thus out and be able to be home in their crappy apartments for Christmas

Very true, however I doubt they'll be happy when the "Ivan cooker" missiles rain down on them.

Yes, he called off the frontal attack and probably gave up the idea of taking it by direct assault altogether. They will try to lay siege and starve the Ukrainians now. And russians were supposed to take Azovstal any day, any hour even. Apparently their armed forces can't keep up with their propaganda. :)

Meanwhile in Tver (NE of moscow?) the Aerospace defence research institute of the Russian Ministry of Defence burnt down... "Iskander" and "S-400" missile systems were designed there"

File under: Thngs that make you go hmmmmmmm?

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1517128844746055681

A nice hmmmm.

I think there's an aeronautics place in Krasnodar too, even more bombable.

God must be a Russophobe.




Earlier on this thread Strzelec35 called me a moron or sth, because I wrote that for all this time when Poland was in NATO there were no NATO missiles in Poland. But I didn't mean just any missiles. I meant missiles like Iskander. The Iskander missiles that are in Kaliningrad can reach and wipe out Warsaw from the face of the Earth and can carry nuclear warheads. Poland has no such thing.

Warsaw is vulnerable, however Article 5 means that if Putler nuked it, Moscow would be turned to glass.

That the public is aware of...........

@johnny reb, I'm afraid we're not Israel... ;) If we had something like Iskanders, we would brag about it :P But somewhere in the near future Poland will be at least partly like Israel :) *fingers crossed*

@johnny reb
Just like the public is probably not aware there are about 20K American soldiers here now in Poland according to some I spoke to this afternoon. Trainers, special ops trainers, and regular military all in Poland now. According to them, they were itching to go in and take care of business.


That article is two years old, and that was a deployment for exercises only. The US has only recently admitted to having 10K in Poland about a week after I reported a conversation with US military who said there were 10K in country. Today they say 20K are already here and more on the way. No additional troop movements have been announced in the US. This is definitely not being talked about, like the planes were transferred on the down low. Having been around a lot of US military over the years, you do not put 20K in readiness unless you are thinking there may be a reason for it. 20K US military are worth 200K Russians any day. Add in all the other allies and you have a pretty big force prepared in Europe now.

@PolAmKrakow, yes, that's why I edited my post - I realised it was about exercises in 2020.


As for the planes:

france24.com/en/live-news/20220420-ukraine-given-parts-not-whole-aircraft-by-allies-pentagon

And of course the best trained army in the world is managing the presence in Estonia and also has a presence in Poland.

Poland's army comes a close second, which is pretty good too.

naijaquest.com/best-trained-armies-in-the-world/

It looks like someone in the West finally noticed what's going on on Russian state TV (at least in a tweet):

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1517007534128775168?s=20&t=bzE7eGTTrxq-ZgQe1nymlQ

"Meanwhile on Russian state TV: hosts and panelists giggling uncontrollably, while discussing nuclear strikes against the continental territory of the United States. Can you imagine any of our prominent media anchors laughing at the idea of destroying cities?"

That is what is being said officially, most countries are hiding/obsuring on what arms they are sending to ukraine. They have to remove the NATO avionics from the Migs first to prevent them falling into russian hands.

Looks like someone is getting payback on th oil executives and tycoons who were/are involved in selling gas and oil to europe. a real post communist mafia state indeed.

Bodies of former vice-president of Gazprombank Vladislav Avayev, his wife and daughter was found in his residence in Moscow in suspected murder-suicide Gazprombank is a key bank in Kremlin's gas-for-rubles scheme

skynews.com.au/australia-news/exkremlin-official-vladislav-avayev-51-found-dead-alongside-wife-daughter-inside-their-multimillion-dollar-apartment/news-story/35ff11d31a82a7f54ce16984fddebb83

The body of Sergey Protosenya, the former deputy chairman of Russian gas giant Novatek, was found hanged at his house on Spain's Costa Brava on Tuesday. His wife and daughter were found in a bed nearby, dead from stab wounds russia.liveuamap.com/en/2022/21-april-the-body-of-sergey-protosenya-the-former-deputy

And from a six weeks ago in england. Russian tycoon Mikhail Watford 'was found hanged' in garage of his luxury home on one of Britain's most exclusive estates . A Russian tycoon who made his fortune in oil and gas was found hanged in the garage of his Surrey mansion, according to reports. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10573905/Russian-tycoon-Mikhail-Watford-hanged-garage-luxury-home.html

Kinda morbidly amusing how the ruski elite are killing each other .

It was reported in the media the day that aired. The U.K. media are quite good at monitoring russian TV.

Julia Davis from the Daily Beast tweeted it later; she's actually quite good.

Those are special forces units enumerated in that article, though, not whole armies. That's a weird list, btw - Indian MARCOS better trained than US Navy Seals or British SAS? Really...?


I see :)


Well, I hope so...

Yes, specifically about those, however they do tend to reflect overall training quality, and HM armed forces are superb in that respect. In my last pre-covid job I sometimes had contact with people training foreign militaries and was very impressed.

About India? Yes, they may or may not belong on the list, however it's from an Indian news source so they're being over positive about their own. Modesty is not generally considered a virtue in the Punjab.


What I'd like to see one day is those foreigners who work for the russian media (not on typical russian TV like Perviy Kanal etc but on their services aimed at abroad) be prosecuted. The legal framework for that would need establishing, however the odious conspiracist Graham Phillips has certainly committed war crimes by interviewing prisoners of war under duress.

You heard about the Russian factory fire, didn't you? No, not the one in Tver the chemical plant in Kineshma (Northeast of Moscow)

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1517187794527043585

Two in what day.... what are the odds? What a weird coincidence....