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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Novichok
25 Feb 2022  #1711

the difference is the majority of Ukrainians don't want it

The majority of people don't want many things in Western "democracies", too, and they are told to shut up and obey. Do you want some examples or can I stop now?

Trump's offensive tweets

I don't feel offended. Do you?
I am sure without proof that Eisenhower said about Rommel "this guy is brilliant".

mafketis
25 Feb 2022  #1712

Russians aren`t Nazis

Just the Russonazi government and it's supporters ...

It is better for all Slavs this way. That Russia f*k up

Putin is using muslim jihadists to kill Slavs... you lying hypocrite....

twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1497197628014141474

gumishu
25 Feb 2022  #1713

and they are told to shut up and obey.

people are lied to, pacified in various way so that they don't learn the causes of problems in their nations - this doesn't mean they are powerless

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2022  #1714

Putin is using muslim jihadists to kill Slavs

This only shows how much he hates Slavic people, if he is ready to bring muslim butchers to murder Slavs.

The entire Slavia should unite in defense of our Ukrainian Slavic brothers.

AntV
25 Feb 2022  #1715

The entire Slavia should unite in defense of our Ukrainian Slavic brothers.

How?

Novichok
25 Feb 2022  #1716

This only shows how much he hates Slavic people

OK, doctor, what else does he "hate"? When did you talk to him?

How?

Don't you know that it's impolite to ask for specifics when dealing with limited IQ people? Shame on you...

this doesn't mean they are powerless

Name one big item people can say no in a Western "democracy". Start with "refugees".

Vlad1234
25 Feb 2022  #1717

I think that technically this invasion looks like some nonsense. Where are Ukrainian soldiers equipped at least with anti-tank rifles?! Where are anti-aircraft guns?! And especially in Kiev and other large cities? Remember Russian envasion in Chechnya and devastation it caused. Is there no more loyal to govt. troops in Ukraine remained?

AntV
25 Feb 2022  #1718

when dealing with limited IQ people? Shame on you.

Yeah, but GK is smarter than you.

Novichok
25 Feb 2022  #1719

Is there no more loyal to govt. troops in Ukraine remained?

Those guys are loyal to the desire to live. They know Russians are not there to kill them. Only a total idiot would fight and die for the swamp.

Yeah, but GK is smarter than you.

No, he is not. A smart person does not say this kind of meaningless crap:

The entire Slavia should unite in defense of our Ukrainian Slavic brothers.

This is a sermon, not a sentence from an intelligent person.

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2022  #1720

How?

Send weapons, give money, accept refugees - they are our brothers, murdered by mongols.

limited IQ

My IQ is certainly not as limited as your sense of smell must be, Putin's anus-diver.

GK is smarter than you

Hardly an accomplishment. An average IKEA chest of drawers is smarter than Novichok.

AntV
25 Feb 2022  #1721

@Vlad1234

I wonder if Ukes are just waiting it out to fight a guerilla war. They know they can't compete with Russian air power, but on the ground they are in a better position. May not want to expose themselves right now. But, I'm no military expert--more of an expert on wishful-thinking.

Crnogorac3
25 Feb 2022  #1722

1

:)))

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2022  #1723

I wonder if Ukes are just waiting it out to fight a guerilla war

We need to support the resistance with weapons and money and everything....and shelter the refugees....we can do alot also without NATO troops on the ground!

And at the same time hit Putin where it counts....right now Scholz doesn't want to cut Russia off SWIFT, but he said he is leaving that for later, a bigger mallet to hammer Russia with should the need arise....so that is still on the table!

(But his opinion is contested....alot of german politicians think otherwise and would totally use the SWIFT sledge already now)

AntV
25 Feb 2022  #1724

Send weapons, give money, accept refugees

Hear! Hear! Roger that!

For a second I thought you wanted some slavic miltary intervention, ie Polish, Czech, etc tanks and boots in Uke.

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2022  #1725

@Crnogorac

This only shows that Western Europe's military forces will be much more ruthless and cruel than Russian. Also, they won't take prisoners and will be extremely difficult to negotiate with. :)

Novichok
25 Feb 2022  #1726

But, I'm no military expert--more of an expert on wishful-thinking.

At least that was honest. As a reward, here is my suggestion...The swamp loves to use = between them and the "country" or ojczyzna and convince the gullible morons aka "patriots" that dying for the swap equals dying for your country. Even the dumbest Ukrainian knows instinctively that it would be stupid and because he read or heard about Crimea. No mass executions there.

Would you want to die for the DC swamp? How about Bezos, Pelosi, Biden, or the Facebook Jew?

Hear! Hear! Roger that!

What??? Did you notice how your high-IQ genius didn't mention how much and where it's all going to come from? These high-IQ geniuses are children who can multiply four-digit numbers and that's as far as it goes.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2022  #1727

Well...even attacked by a foreign invader it would still be MY SWAMP! In good times and in bad times....we can talk about said swamp again if the occupier got kicked out again!

I guess most Americans would agree....most Germans too....most Poles of course....why should Ukrainians be different?

AntV
25 Feb 2022  #1728

Scholz doesn't want to cut Russia off SWIFT, but he said he is leaving that for later...should the need arise

Same from Biden.

To me, this illustrates why I lack confidence in our current leaders. What are they waiting for before they use this more lethal sanction? It's not like Russia hasn't already invaded Uke. It should've been slapped on Russia the second one Russian toe entered Uke. It's not much of a carrot anymore.

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2022  #1729

NATO cannot officially use ground troops to destroy Russian forces, risk of nuclear war and all that, but we should learn from our enemies:

... when Russian army took Crimea, Putin claimed that the "little green men" weren't Russian soldiers and that you can "buy such equipment in a military store" etc. etc. So, maybe NATO should send, let's say, 300 thousand of our "little green men", without country markings on their uniforms to crush Russian army in Ukraine, but claim that they aren't NATO soldiers and you can buy all that in a military store. Just an idea.

I guess most Americans would agree....most Germans too....most Poles of course....why should Ukrainians be different?

Very good point, BB.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2022  #1730

What are they waiting for before

Germans ask right now the same....and that quite openly in former gov-loyal mainstream media...WTF is Scholz waiting for???

Novichok
25 Feb 2022  #1731

Well...attacked by a foreign invader it would still be MY SWAMP!

News flash! BB is playing stupid. Sure it's your swamp. Now, pay attention. This is what I said:

Would you want to die for the DC swamp?

Let me rephrase it to remove the word "want" and "DC".

Do you have the desire to risk your life to protect "YOUR SWAMP"? Since I asked the question, I will answer it: No fu*cking way! Let them all die!

Watch Independence as a confirmation that I am, as always, right.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2022  #1732

As I said!

Scholz is under pressure in his own ranks

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/olaf-scholz-geraet-in-den-eigenen-reihen-unter-druck-sanktionen-und-waffenlieferungen-a-f049c5bc-4ac6-4977-a2f1-a66f468e08a8

Is that it? The new sanctions cause trouble in the government. Does the Chancellor still have to think about excluding Russia from Swift payments - and possibly arms deliveries?

Jawoll....there is more possible than Scholz agreed to right now....just wait!

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2022  #1733

it's your swamp

If you let Putin take other "swamps", one by one, then eventually he WILL come for your "swamp" as well.

Remember Hitler? He took Austrian "swamp" and then the Czech "swamp" and eventually it all led to WW2, because geniuses like Novichok didn't have balls enough to stop the criminal from taking another "swamp".

It's embarassing that I even have to say such obvious things.

Velund
25 Feb 2022  #1734

Where are Ukrainian soldiers equipped at least with anti-tank rifles?!

Blocked on Donbass, surrounded by militia and russian troops. Shelling peaceful cities as a revenge. For example, today 7 rockets from BM21 "Grad" was launched to center of Donetsk, where is nobody except civilians.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2022  #1735

Remember Hitler? He took Austrian "swamp" and then the Czech "swamp" and eventually it all led to WW2

History really repeats itself....and the appeaser had been as shameful and useless as before...

Novichok
25 Feb 2022  #1736

If you let Putin take other "swamps", one by one, then eventually he WILL come for your "swamp" as well.

Hey, genius, Ukraine was the USSR. Crimea was the USSR. When you get an email from Putin that he intends to take Paris and London, let me know.

China already owns Hollywood, NBA, and the Biden family.

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2022  #1737

Ukraine was the USSR

So what?

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were under Soviet occupation as parts of USSR as well. Poland was once a part of Russia too (some of our lands anyway).

Vlad1234
25 Feb 2022  #1738

Those guys are loyal to the desire to live.

Is there too much risk for a soldier's lives when they use anti-tank Javelinas and anti-aircraft Stingers in large cities? They could just make a shot from the corner and run away. In 1990-the Russian troops experienced devastating losses while attempting to storm 300.000 Grozny with tanks against the rebels who were eqiupped just with primitive bazukas. And had to level most of city to the ground to capture it completely. Kiev is 10 times larger than Grozny!

gumishu
25 Feb 2022  #1739

Ukraine was the USSR

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and others all were in USSR - do you think they long to rejoin?

Bratwurst Boy
25 Feb 2022  #1740

Ukraine was the USSR

East Germany too....erm....


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