Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

It is the Job of the elected government to protect its Civilians that's why you have Army in the first place. A civilian is not trained professional, letting them face a professional army is pure evil genocide by the Ukrainian Government.


I doubt. Although I don't have evidence at this moment. Russia could annihilate Ukraine if they wanted once they controlled the skies. The footage from the blasts seems very well captured as if the camera was waiting for it to happen. Not saying Ukraine brought it down themselves to get NATO involved but you can never rule out anything in Politics.

@Velund


Answer the question you pathetic Russian ignoramus!

So if the US were invaded you'd sit at home and demand that the army protect you....


Had any kind of official procedure been initiated on either side to bring Ukraine into NATO?

What does it matter when they have proved that they can kill Russian soldiers?
Poor,.innocent kids sent to an early death by a lunatic Russian dictator.

Like so many before them. The Russian state seems to hate its people very intensely....

Here is a documentary footage for this whole forum and you all morons to see the teuth or why this is occuring:

youtu.be/If61baWF4GE

resources oil and territory or silent.

Yes! Government is taking money from me in the form of taxes which includes that.


It's not about bringing Ukraine into NATO but Ukraine can certainly hope NATO to intervene by displaying attack on civilians.

They don't care.
All they care about is their power and wealth and the sooner Russian people and the Russian apologists understand that, the better.

Do you think this is true ?
Some Russian troops have "deliberately punched holes in their vehicles' gas tanks" as morale among the Russians declines, a senior US official said.
The troops appear to be self-sabotaging in order to avoid combat, the unnamed senior Pentagon official said, per The New York Times.
The official added that many of the Russian troops are young and inexperienced in combat, and they are facing dwindling food and fuel resources

Do you know what this is?



One group of the Kadyrov's soldiers from a unit that was assigned with the task of killing Zelensky and the rest of the Ukrainian government after the taking of Kyiv was destroyed by Ukrainians:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/ich-zadaniem-bylo-zabicie-prezydenta-zelenskiego-zostali-zlikwidowani-6742666014452224a

There's one more group left.

so you can not be counted on in a crisis.... noted


neither does the public, Russians never seem to be bothered at their government killing them, even in large numbers.... baffling...

Yes.
Russian troops are poorly trained, were poorly prepared for this invasion, if at all, their logistics are very poor and they are hungry and demoralised.

Хай живе Україно!

The real question should be why the media has decided to report this. When you have thousands of troops this can happen with some... same goes with Ukrainians... not all Ukrainian wants to fight either...

Rather this seems to be aimed at motivating the Ukrainians to keep fighting by controlling the narrative that Russians are losing this war.


I counted my government and the Army exactly for this very situation called "crisis" and even worked my ass off to support my country. If my government betrayed me and failed to protect me at the end of everything then.... who is loyal?

noboey cares about polaks paulina or ur **** child soldiers u keep bringing up and ur garbage polak racism and narionalism. ur just a joke to americans.

Those civillian Ukrainians who are ready to take up arms against an invader are first and foremost loyal to their motherland. It's not about their government, it's about their country and their future. And it's their choice.

Besides, Ukrainian army and Russian army are like David and Goliath. How do you "prepare" for something like that?

I haven't seen anything that says Russians are losing this war. I've seen a lot saying that it's not going the way Putin expected. I'd have to agree with the media on this one.

The only ones who probably thought there'd be this amount of effective resistance is the Ukrainians.

@AntV, I agree. Ukrainians surprised me in a positive way. Brave people.

THIS is the germans in a nutshell. thankfully they are slowly growig balls youtube.com/watch?v=uzZRdjXd2qw

Nationalism is for suckers. Truth be told if you don't pay up the government you'll be thrown into prison while if you have loads of money any country will welcome you.

While all this happens, a lot of Ukrainian millionaires are partying in Dubai or holidaying in some tropical paradise... it's the poor and the middle class who are dying in the name of nationalism.

The entire earth is every humans motherland. If you divide humans by country, race or religion... there will be war at one point or another. Your vision is too narrow.

Total bush*it. It's only about their government. The ruling clique was quick to wrap themselves in flags, "patriotism", and "the country" to get the brainless "patriots" to shoot and get killed because it's all about power, not executions and gulags.

I know it's going to be hard to get off the patriotic horse. But, just for a moment...

If 2014 didn't happen would Russia invade Ukraine?

And the answer is NO FU*CKING WAY!!!!!!! And you know it.

Patriotism isn't the same as nationalism. Learn the definitions.


Wow, I didn't suspect you of being a internationalist lol It's your right, of course, but those Ukrainians have the right to be patriots too.


No, it isn't, I simply can understand those people. I guess you can't?


It's good that you've admitted it! LOL If Russia didn't annex Crimea, support and arm the rebels in Donbas and Luhansk and send it's "green men" to Ukrainian territory we wouldn't have war today! Putin is an EVIL BASTARD! He started it!

Putin should be charged with war crimes and hung by the neck until dead.

amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/russian-military-commits-indiscriminate-attacks-during-the-invasion-of-ukraine/00


I'm an American and I don't think Paulina is a joke.
The Americans put you in prison and deported you, so we know what Americans think of you.

[Moved from]: War against Russia now

Hello my friends, my name is Slepowron. I posted here once, long ago. I wish I had more time now to write, but I will have to leave things very broad. Russia has crossed the line again that shows they have neither redeemed themselves, nor apologized, nor learned from their past mistakes. It is time these mistakes stop being tolerated. I calling every true poll, who wants to fight the war against Russia, to attack Russia in their homeland. The people in St. Petersburg, Moscow, Kaliningrad, the people should be attacked and be put to death. I believe in complete and utter asymmetrical warfare against Russia. Use every form of warfare available. The skies yourself in their country. Learn their ways. Explosive. Gas. Viral. Go door-to-door and strangle them and all supporters of Russia if necessary. Let the Russian people flee their corrupt country now they know what is happening. Now is the time brothers

poland is the joke and its nationalists and ur a joke in ur own country for being a right wing redneck twitter and wokes make fun of who run the country now tard.

First poland needs tog et rid of the polak nationalists or retards like some members of the forum or these guys then they should do protests like serbians did against nato back in the day yelling loud for russia to attack nato but for other polish to attack russia:

onet.pl/informacje/onetrzeszow/inwazja-rosji-na-ukraine-napieta-sytuacja-w-przemyslu/1cp0m6d,79cfc278

CLean ur own polak backyard first then try it.

Does it really matter? You cannot be one without the other. Period.


If you support that narrative, Russians will say they are doing this in the interest of their own nation...


I understand both sides... if you were the President of Russia what you'd do? Sit and watch your Country being surrounded by NATO troops at a striking distance?


Why not George Bush then?

Short answer - zero would be perfect. Unfortunately, world is not perfect. See below.

1. An example of stupidity and lack of planning. In Mykolaiv, the AFU threw soldiers into positions by helicopter. No one had any contact with the territorial defense - as a result, the "patriots" killed their own soldiers. Information from Anatoly Shariy's channel - video on his stream for tonight.

2. An example of a mixture of dementia and courage. The territorial defense of Kherson with a "bandera smoothie" attempted to ambush a convoy of Russian troops. Nothing broadens the mind like a 14.5 caliber bullet. This is especially for the pawian - he wanted to be a hero.

youtube.com/watch?v=2HUl3A2E-A0


One of such groups was identified as a family with kids in a car. 3 dead, two kids wounded, by territorial defense (i.e. stupids who got Kalashnikovs but not got brains). Reported in media as destroyed diversion group. Information from the same Anatoly Shariy channel, stream that is currently online, see in recording if you wish. He said he have photos, sent by subscribers.

PS: The 2022 Darwin Award will have too many nominees. Sad, really.....

News keep arriving. Kyiv police shot three drunk territorial defence "patriots". If you'll hear about destroyed russian diversion group of 3 men - you know what to think.

Are you OK? This war has nothing to do with Crimea. Russia had Crimea since 2014. What damn reason would they have to send their tanks to Ukraine? Duh!

The Russian tanks are in Ukraine - go slow now and read every word - because Russia doesn't like a hostile G O V E R N M E N T of Ukraine.

Nothing to do with all that crap about "our freedom" the stupid need to go against Russian tanks.


Spot on. The "patriots" bought the bs how Russia is a mortal threat and are ready to die nothing. The shooting would stop instantly if the chief Jew called Putin and said I am leaving. It's all yours - like Crimea. No more shooting, no more heroes, no more deaths.

To the Russia hating a-holes here...What do you think Russians would do if the Jew and his "advisors" left? Start mass executions?

I'm an a-hole, just not a Russia-hating a-hole, but I'll answer your question, anyway. I think Putin would embark on a nation-building program--install a hand-picked pro-consul, ensure elections are rigged, etc. In other words, do what he'll probably do whether the elected President of Ukraine and his advisors leave willingly or in body bags.

What do you think Putin would do?

Exactly what you said. When that finally happens, all these dead heroes will just make Darwin smile again.


That's up to them. They can leave now or after a trial for treason.

Speaking of Darwin, I can almost hear some child saying, mommy, why did daddy die? To cope with the loss and to keep her sanity, she will say that daddy died for our freedom but she will not explain freedom to do what. She will add that daddy is now in heaven and the child will smile.

A replay of so many such conversations here.

The problem I have with what appears to be your point-of-view is that in your approach the tyrant not only always wins, but wins without opposition. In your POV, America would never have been there to receive you as you escaped the yoke of communism, because it would never have fought to be freed from British rule. The whole world would be yoked by tyranny.

I have a certain suspicion of romanticizing things, but if we in the West look at Ukraine right now it should remind us that freedom is not only tenuous but something to fight for. It reminds us that tyranny is only a step away and if it presents itself we need to fight it.

Funny thing, putting what I perceive as your self-loathing aside, you b**** about a litany of things--that in and of itself is a manifestation of you not even buying your own POV. You see things worth fighting for yourself--that's why you own a gun. Difference between you, me and the Ukrainians is that they are actually being existentially threatened and they have decided to put their necks on the line and take action to at least stand up to the tyranny that threatens their freedom to choose how their country is governed (and I'm completely aware it's corrupt, but so is Russia).

Preaching to surrender to the inevitable Russian victory is like telling someone being raped to just accept it and deal with it--hopefully it just won't be too bad.