Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

Are you ready to prove that majority of inhabitants of Kherson voted in RuSSia's referendum? And that the result of that vote was really 87%? If yes - do it. If no, you and Novichok - STFU.

And FYI - the fact that RuSSia says something isn't any proof of anything not just for me, but also for the rest of the world (besides North Korea lol).

Darling, were there any independent observers from international institutions present during such highly controvercial referenda??? No. Why? Coz RuSSists needed to rig the results. Simple.


RuSSists utter lies most of the time.

Burden of proof on your side. You have official results, there was obserevers from a number of countries (not from the list of US lapdogs and their fleas). Either you accept official results, either you prove opposite. You can refuse to recognize this results, but it is your own sexual problems, not causing any juridical consequences. ;)

I'll take that over eastern decadence, something r*SSia is full of.


How can their be 'official' results from an unofficial and illegal referendum?


Like literally the entire world?

No independent observers equals rigged referenda. Simple.


Don`t be stupid, North Korea and Belarus don`t count.


Nobody except Iran, Belarus or North Korea accepted the results. RuSSists have lost and if you don`t annul the referenda, the sanctions will be continued until the ultimate disintegration of the Evil RuSSian Empire. Ha! And what can you do about it??? hahahaha

@pawian, that's the thing - RuSSia has been lying so much and inventing such f*cked up lies that noone in the right mind would believe in those results without some solid proof - and I haven't seen any.


No, RuSSia has been lying all the time, so I don't believe any "official results" given by RuSSia. Those are just words and numbers printed on paper and you can say and print anything you want. So I want PROOF from YOU.


What observers? From what institutions? And from what countries? From the list of RuSSia's lapdogs and their fleas by any chance? :D

This is YOUR problem. Not problem of Russia.

About observers - In DNR referendum there was independent observers from Brazil, Egypt, Venezuela, Serbia, South Africa, Cameroon, CAR, Abkhazia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, USA, France, Italy, Netherlands, Slovakia, Latvia (citizens of that countries). One of my (distant) relatives worked in local referendum comission in suburbs of Donetsk. Not asked about other regions.

OK. The sanctions may last for decades... hahahaha


Darling, we are talking about INDEPENDENT observers.

info-res.org/post/explainer-the-foreign-observers-behind-ukraine-s-sham-referendums

There is a notable absence of foreign politicians, active diplomats or officials, or significant public figures. This appears to be very much the C-team of election observers, even compared to the calibre of observers at previous Russian elections.

We're making it RuSSia's problem :)))

Btw, by your attitude you're showing that you don't care whether those referendums were fair and honest or not.


But from what organisation or institution? You can hand-pick any foreign individuals who are pro-Putin, for example, or who can get paid and call them "independent observers". That's why I'm asking what reputable institution sent those observers.

And what about other regions?

You are wrong.
This is a massive problem for Russia because it is all about how they are perceived by the rest of the world.
And currently, they are seen as a terrorist state.
Just watch how China and India start to hold Russia at arms lenghth....like a stinking piece of ordure....soon they will only have North Korea,Iran and maybe Pakistan as friends.....good luck with that!

Of course! That's the only sane option! And... didn't you know Ukraine just had a top secret referendum and the residents of Kherson decided they want to stay in Ukraine after all!

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No there weren't.

Anyway, I've just held a referendum and the result was 100%. I'm going to annex your kitchen.

11.11. - what a beautiful date for both Poles and Ukrainians now :)))


With whooping 88.9% "YES for Ukraine"! :D Of course, there were independent observers from many countries, including Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, the Czech Republic, the US, the UK and even RuSSia (Yulia Navalnaya), Belarus (Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya), Turkey (Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu), etc. Only Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia recognised the results of this top secret referendum, but who cares what the world thinks - it's THEIR problem, not Ukraine's! :D


Aneks kuchenny :D ;D

LOL!!!!!

That is exactly how stupid, moronic and frankly, insane those Russian referendums were.

This was sad to see. Some US soldiers in a shopping mall here in Poland being followed round by someone (presumably an American orc supporter) verbally abusing them and very obviously trying to provoke them into a fight. One of the soldiers was African American and another Latino; the guy was racially abusing them both with deeply offensive terms to get a reaction. The soldiers behaved impeccably. I wouldn't have.

The person filming wasn't a Pole (unless he'd lived from childhood in America; his US accent was a thick one). I suspect a r*SSia supporter, perhaps paid to do this.

twitter.com/Havoc_Six/status/1595481860657889283

Absolutely disgusting!
That chickensh1t coward would be the first to call the Yanks to help him if Russia invaded.
He made me feel sick....

I wonder which mall is it,certainly not Zlota trasay,maybe Arkadia or Panorama.I wish I know who this guys is,I can promise him Poland Permanent resident card,he is certainly not of Polish descent and has a kind of NY accent.Soldiers had some tolerance,in my case I would have grabbed whatever I could...chair,knife and put him at his place.I can bet he is a Back packer English teacher doing visa runs.

Wow, what a piece of sh1t. He was clearly trying to provoke them. Those soldiers should call the Polish police. Polish police officers "love" such filming provocateurs :) And I think other Polish services should probably get interested in that guy too.

Great self-control by American soldiers though. Very professional. 👍


Me too. That guy was probably an American, but I still would buy those soldiers a beer or sth if that happened in Poland :/

Quite. On Twitter people are saying that he's either from Canada or a part of the US close to the border, due to vowel sounds (aboot not about). Wherever he's from, he needs braying.


Me too. And a big plate of pierogi.

@Mafketis, what would you say his accent was?

Me too!

I have made couple of US soldier friends meeting them in Zlota trasay mall and we are now good beer buddies on there furlough and the circle is growing

It's Reduta. You can see Blue City opposite when the soldiers leave.

It's strange to me, that when what I had wanted to happen since early on... finally started happening (debilitating strikes against Ukraine's critical infrastructure) - it brought me no satisfaction, no joy.

Time, and change over time - these are important things. Initial miscalculations, have led to unpredictable "forking" of popular opinion, which I feel on my own self. This war is going to be neither what I wanted, nor what a "generic" PolAmKrakow or Mafketis wanted.

If it already seems to one like a f*cking mess, I would advise that person to buckle up and get ready for a much bumpier ride.

Hey, Bobko, Zhole can end that war by noon tomorrow - if his puppet masters in DC let him.
Never, ever forget what happened in April.

In the meantime, in support of my famous here Z-P, this is what's happening as proof that Zhole is "winning"... Quoting:

Russia has targeted Ukraine's energy infrastructure in a large-scale missile attack on Wednesday, striking multiple targets in the capital Kiev and elsewhere across the country.

Emergency power outages have occurred in all regions as a result of the assault, Ukraine's national power grid operator Ukrenergo has reported.

Kiev Mayor Vitaly Klitschko said that there were explosions in various parts of the city and that water supplies had been cut off. He also mentioned power shortages.

As they say, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Poland, here is another opportunity to share your vast resources.

All of this to protect that world-class Ukrainian "democracy" and the right to sign up with NATO. Good job, guys...

If observer work for some organisation or institution, he/she depends of their employer. So, it will be not independent observer, it will be representative of their employer.

So, offer something else.


Me too, but it has to be done. It is shortest way to end this madness without turning EU countries into beggars lands, without industry and controlled directly from US embassies, like Ukraine after Maidan. ;)

Another cold night at the troll farm ?

Don't worry losers, only 5 hours to go and you can catch the rickety tram back to your crappy apartments

Why not order something from the 24 hour sushi bar ? Niigiri with sprats ?

How's the Bitcoin going BTW ?

No. Another cold night in Ukraine - the country that is "winning" the war that should never be.

Thank you for stating the obvious, European Parliament...

europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20221118IPR55707/european-parliament-declares-russia-to-be-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism

...hopefully this will open the way to full confiscation of all Russian money and property in Europe and allocating these funds to rebuilding Ukraine.

My comment about European Parliament would include words that are not fit to print.