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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4



GefreiterKania
6 Jan 2023  #2101

Ukraine War Taking Us To Nuclear War

Nie strasz, nie strasz, bo się zesrasz* - as President Duda eloquently put it. :)

* don't try to frighten people or you will sh*t yourself

Putin didn't listen and look what happened to him...

Putin Slipped On Stairs At Home, Led To "Involuntary Defecation"

ndtv.com/world-news/putin-slipped-on-stairs-at-home-led-to-involuntary-defecation-report-3577055

... always listen to President Duda, Crno. It will help you avoid embarassment.

mafketis
6 Jan 2023  #2102

Taking Us To Nuclear War

russia is the only country threatening nukes...

russia seems less like a country now and more like a deranged death cult....

why do you support death (russia) over life (Ukraine)??

what happened to you?

PolAmKrakow
6 Jan 2023  #2103

@GefreiterKania
Little Vlad started a war that led to involuntary defecation on a daily basis. Sending tens of thousands of boys, fathers, brothers, sons to their deaths for no reason at all.

@mafketis
Little $hit stirrers like Crnog want to promote death here on PF. He isn't even Russian. At least Velund is Russian and supporting his country no matter how twisted it may be. I can at least respect Velund's loyalty no matter how misguided. Crnog is just a little Serb who got his a$$ kicked by NATO who wants nothing but death to anyone that opposes freedom and democratic rule. Yet he lives in a country that desperately wants into the EU and wont volunteer to go fight for Russia. He is the same as all the other little Vlad supporters in the US, just another Putinazi who should be outed and then deported out of his country and into Russia, then forced to train and go to the front lines where he can get his share of medicine delivered via HMARS. Happy gulag biatches!

Tacitus
6 Jan 2023  #2104

I guess the combined West can hold out longer than Putin

There is at least hope to be optimistic about the next 1-2 years until the next presidential election in the USA.

Things are certainly looking much better than one could expect one year ago. Ukraine has had great success on the battlefield, Western countries are rebuilding their military industry and the gas storages are full the gas price is falling.

PolAmKrakow
6 Jan 2023  #2105

One of you Putinazi's needs to inform the retarded Vladinator that it is impossible to declare a unilateral ceasefire without the other side actually agreeing to it. It is like saying I declare that Swaziland is now part of Poland. Oh wait he did that too in Ukraine. Fvck this Vlad is stupid.

amiga500
6 Jan 2023  #2106

"I am absolutely convinced that Ukraine will not shy away from the processes of expanding interaction with NATO, the decision is to be taken by NATO and Ukraine. It is a matter for those two partners." Vladmir Putin 2002, Lolzo wut?

GefreiterKania
6 Jan 2023  #2107

Great article in The Moscow Times by Leonid Gozman...

"The most important step will be ensuring Russia's demilitarization and the relinquishing of its nuclear arsenal, without which Putin would never have started this war. At the very least, international control over Russia's nuclear weapons must be established."

themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/04/once-unthinkable-capitulation-could-still-be-russias-saving-grace-a79873

pawian
6 Jan 2023  #2108

At the very least, international control over Russia's nuclear weapons must be established."

It is obvious that New Russia of 50 million people won`t be able to afford to maintain all this nuclear arsenal that current Russia possesses.

GefreiterKania
6 Jan 2023  #2109

New Russia of 50 million people

Hmm... you mean Muscovy? One of the countries that current Russia will be divided into?

I don't think it would be a good idea for it to have more people than Poland, so about 40 million seems like a better choice. Only then could we have proper partnership, on equal basis, without the desire to dominate on any side, and Polish-Russian friendship could properly flourish, which is very important for me as a Russophile.

GefreiterKania
6 Jan 2023  #2110

Meanwhile during the Russian "ceasefire" CNN witnessed incoming and outgoing artillery fire near the front line around Bakhmut, and The Guardian reports:

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theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jan/06/russia-ukraine-war-live-zelenskiy-dismisses-russian-ceasefire-saying-war-will-end-when-your-soldiers-leave

edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-1-6-23/h_5de20504e038c188031f8165acd8197b

Will we have a new idiom in use - a "Russian ceasefire"? As in: "It was a real Russian ceasefire -- constant artillery barrage, infantry storming our positions and heavy losses on both sides".

pawian
6 Jan 2023  #2111

you mean Muscovy? One of the countries that current Russia will be divided into?

Yes, exactly.

so about 40 million seems like a better choice.

I took that 50 million from Lech Wałesa`s concept which caused a huge uproar a few months ago when Russians accused him of promoting genocide. While he only meant a smaller Russia.

which is very important for me as a Russophile.

I am not sure if you realise certain psychological intricacies but to Russians you are a suspicious or even a trecherous person. All Russians - both decent and Putinazis. Coz you don`t support Russia unconditionally in its Make Russia Great Again effort. Only unconditional support counts to them.

GefreiterKania
6 Jan 2023  #2112

to Russians you are a suspicious or even a trecherous person.

Because they are used to outdated, old-type Russophiles, like Crow or Crnogorac, who only loved one Russia, but I am a modern Russophile and I have a place in my heart for five or even six Russias!

Besides, outdated Russophiles loved Russian oppressive and corrupt state machine whilst I don't give a toss about it - I love Russian people and for them the collapse of the monstrosity that putinist Russia turned into is the only chance for decent, dignified living. The Moscow Times article that I linked mentions that too.

Long live free Russia(s)!

pawian
6 Jan 2023  #2113

but I am a modern Russophile and I have a place in my heart for five or even six Russias!

You weren`t such before...... :):):) Have you changed your attitude??? You know that none of Russians would like to see their country disintegrate. That is why I said they will always view you with suspicion.

I love Russian people

So it will remain unrequited for ever. :):):)

GefreiterKania
6 Jan 2023  #2114

Of course I have always been a modern Russophile. You weren't reading my posts attentively enough (again!). :)

You know that none of Russians would like to see their country disintegrate.

'Disintegrate'... it's such a nasty word. How about 'reorganise'? Or even 'multiply'. Besides, after so many centuries of mental abuse they might not realise what's best for them - and here is the role of modern Russophiles: to explain it and help them to accept it. It's a difficult role, sometimes not appreciated as it should be - Poles say we are Russists, Russians say we are false friends - but our love to Russia drives us.

You never loved Russia, Pawian, so I don't expect you to understand.

pawian
6 Jan 2023  #2115

You never loved Russia,

True. Coz I read too many books about it. hahaha

I liked Russian culture, though. But I suddenly grew out of it in February 2022. Now, listening to Russian songs, for example on youtube, makes me sick.

Velund
7 Jan 2023  #2116

Long live free Russia(s)!

Start practicing your pronunciation - "Warsaw Oblast, Polish Autonomous Republic, Western Federal District, Russian Federation..." ;)

cms neuf
7 Jan 2023  #2117

Just like Kherson oblast where Russian troops are raping and firing missiles at the people you claim are Russians

GefreiterKania
7 Jan 2023  #2118

Warsaw Oblast, Polish Autonomous Republic, Western Federal District, Russian Federation

I know what you are trying to do - you are trying to make me love Russia less. Impossible; I am a true Pole and that's what I do - I love. That's why Poland, unlike Russia or Germany, never conducted a mass-scale genocide or ethnic cleansing* - that's not how we win, we win with love.

Do you think we hated the Teutonic Knights. No way - we loved their organisational skills and their devotion to Virgin Mary and we admired their battle prowess, but their looting of our lands was a bit disappointing, so it had to be put to an end - with love (symbolised by the two swords - the gift that we cherish until this day).

Do you think we hated the Swedes of the Turks? Perish the thought! We loved the Swedish discipline and the Turkish devotion to their God, but when they were acting against their best interests... well... then the wing hussars arrived - with love.

Do you think we've ever hated the Russians in the countless wars between us? How could we? You are our blood brothers. We loved your language and culture and we admired your dedication to your motherland even when it treated you badly. However, when as so many times in history you acted against your own interest (like in 1920 when you tried to spread the communist revolution to the entire Europe) we had to stop it - with love. You have to be stopped today as well, Veli, for your own good.

* OK, some nitpickers will no doubt start talking nonsense about the ethnic cleansing of UPA-supporting population from south-eastern Poland in mid-twentieth century, but we only dispersed the UPA sympathisers in our western lands - not murdered them (like their banderopithec idols would certainly do) and it was done to prevent future unnecessary bloodshed.

PolAmKrakow
7 Jan 2023  #2119

@Crnogorac3
US Army also admitted they always pulled out of Serbians.

Meanwhile in the real war and in real news, the Orcs broke Puntins own unilateral ceasefire. And the US is now sending HMARS and more troops to Estonia. Indeed Russia is scaring everyone away with their military tactics and threats. Very successful special military fvck up. Happy gulag biatches!

GefreiterKania
7 Jan 2023  #2120

Poland to send her Leopards to Ukraine...

euromaidanpress.com/2023/01/07/poland-considering-donating-ukraine-its-german-made-leopard-main-battle-tanks-wsj/

"Poland has more than 240 Leopard tanks, enough for two tank brigades, and plans to eventually unload all of them, which depends on how quickly Poland receives replacement tanks it has ordered from manufacturers in South Korea and the US."

I hope Abrams tanks and K2s will be delivered soon, so we can send the rest of post-Soviet crap and Leopards to Ukraine. I think, with the numbers that we ordered, the two types we bought will be enough for our army (with more than two types the logistics would become difficult).

johnny reb
7 Jan 2023  #2121

I wonder how many of our Polish Forums "Arm Chair Generals" will be joining. :-/

Polish authorities reported Friday that the Armed Forces will carry out training for some 200,000 reservists in the midst of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Balik has indicated that these reservists have been previously selected for possible mobilization.
In addition, he explained that up to 3,000 reservists without military experience may be included in the training group.
The Polish Army reserve includes people up to 55 years of age, who are recognized as fit for service.
However, "active reservists" are those ex-military personnel who undergo training for two days every three months.
The Polish forces currently number 164,000, although the government expects to have up to 300,000 troops in total.
Here is your chance to serve your country guys and gals.

Crnogorac3
7 Jan 2023  #2122

⚡️⚡️⚡️🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦The Soledar Center is under the control of the Wagner PMCs and other divisions.

AFU is withdrawing en masse, Russian Army troops are moving densely further.⚡️⚡️⚡️

twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1611364239511265280

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦🇧🇾 It's being reported now that the AFU has begun pulling reserves from Bakhmut and sending them to the border with Belarus.

t.me/intelslava/43076

Jihadi Julian is anxious

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Crnogorac3
7 Jan 2023  #2123

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📽️Russian Wagner mercenaries managed to advance in Soledar and reached the salt mine in the center of the town.

twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1611451205284151299

mafketis
7 Jan 2023  #2124

advance in Soledar

Stop lying! All you do (all russia supporters ever do) is constantly lie!

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1611670950092890112

russia without constant lying 100% of the time... ceases to be russia....

Slavictor
7 Jan 2023  #2125

Why was he there in the first place.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1605299351403876360

jon357
7 Jan 2023  #2126

Why was he there in the first place.

Why would he not be?

He chose to volunteer for the cause of freedom.

Novichok
7 Jan 2023  #2127

He chose to volunteer for the cause of freedom.

Did you or anyone else here?

jon357
7 Jan 2023  #2128

He did.

A good man.

mafketis
7 Jan 2023  #2129

Would you like to be a good man,

Would you like to be a good man who's conscripted and then dies for..... putain's vanity? russian imperialism? what exactly are russians dying for in Ukraine? Wouldn't it make more sense if they gave up and left?

What is putain trying to bring to Ukraine that's worth 100,000 russian lives (and counting)?

Crnogorac3
7 Jan 2023  #2130

Stop lying!

Quick reminder

Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine

twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1611342902403153920

🇺🇸🇪🇺🇺🇦🇷🇺Ukrainian Defense Minister Reznikov admitted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are carrying out the mission of NATO.

-"We are fulfilling the NATO mission today, without losing their blood, with the loss of our blood, so they need to spend their weapons," Reznikov said.

twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1611704500972036096


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