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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1441

Mr. Xi seems to be quite the slimer....

Mr. Xi is not bound by any rules other than China First. Rules are for Civics 101 PF suckers.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Mar 2023  #1442

PS: One of our politicians put out a strange idea in one talkshow or the other.....let's put chinese soldiers onto Ukraine ground for peace keeping....

Do you think Xi would agree to that? Would Putin? As a buffer to NATO?

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1443

I don't know. If U and R want to stop, they can do it alone. In the meantime, this...From dailymail:

Horrific video shows Ukrainian POW taking one last drag from a cigarette and saying 'glory to Ukraine' before being 'executed by Russian troops' as Kyiv slams 'heinous war crime'

The article also says:

It could not be independently verified where or when the footage was filmed or whether it showed - as some Ukrainian officials and social media users suggested - a Ukrainian prisoner of war being shot.

There are three possibilities:

1. It's as fake as "babies thrown out of incubators" in Kuwait and WMDs in Iraq
2. The Russian who took that video was executed on the same day
3. The execution and the video are authentic because Russians lost their marbles and want to be charged with war crimes.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Mar 2023  #1444

Nun ja....the SPIEGEL has this video already deleted from its online frontpage....let's see what's up with that....

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1445

My view of this war is simple:

What is reported by Russia may be a lie. What is reported by NATO is a lie.

Alien
7 Mar 2023  #1446

@Novichok
What is reported by russia about russia or NATO is a lie. What is reported by NATO about russia may by a lie but what is reported by NATO about NATO is true.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Mar 2023  #1447

What is reported by Russia may be a lie.

They started that war with a lie....calling the Ukrainians Nazis! Just wanting to reenact the spirit of the "great patriotic war"....a huge lie! Why believe them anything now?

PolAmKrakow
7 Mar 2023  #1448

@Novichok
Poor little Xi. You make sleepy Joe sound like a genius for the way he is treating little Vlad and the China virus manager. China has their feelings hurt by the west? Say it isn't so. Since when is the "west" obligated to do $hit for China? Since when is the "west" obligated to keep markets open for little Xi if he sends weapons to Russia. China has no right to trade with the "west". You sound more and more like a left-wing nutcase. Instead of transgender and every other bull$hit group, you want Russian and China to be treated fairly by the Russian and Chinese standards. So when the "west" shuts Russia out, and threatens to do the same to China, little communists get upset everywhere. LMAO

Meanwhile, little Vlad keeps another political opponent, Vladimir Kara-Murza locked up in pre trial detention for speaking out against the war. Yes, another shining example of the freedoms provided to Russians by little Vlad. Cannot form your own opinion and speaking without risking going to prison. Lovely place Russia is, terribly inviting, and obviously an emigration destination for all Putinazi coxuckers.

In other Russian news, Lavrov was said to be having special secret meetings with Thailand about how to manage the sex trade when Russia opens for tourism after the war. This in an attempt to boost birth rates after killing off most of the Russian men capable of starting families through the war in Ukraine. These same women being prepared for the trade are said to be driving the new Lada luxury sedan, complete with a standard transmission, and CB radio. Happy gulag you dumbasses!

Korvinus
7 Mar 2023  #1449

There are three possibilities:

twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1633027452891979776

The only reasonable approach to this video from the Russians would be "Ukrainians produced this fake!" Unfortunately, too many orks have already cheered it.

People have been understanding to a common Russians during the cold war, since they were considered the victims of the system, just like no one hates a common North Korean today.

But this excuse of being a helpless innocent victim is no more, most Ruskies themselves don't wish to hide behind it, they are proud of what their country is doing.

GefreiterKania
7 Mar 2023  #1450

twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1633027452891979776

Slava Ukraini

... and to think that, if things turned out a bit differently a year ago, it could easily have been a Polish soldier saying "Niech żyje Polska!" before being shot by the cowardly criminals.

Apparently the murdered prisoner was identified as Timofii Shadura of the 30th Independent Mechanized Brigade. Rest in peace, Tima, you will not be forgotten. Героям слава!

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1451

Why would Russia make that video?
Why would Russia make that video public?

jon357
7 Mar 2023  #1452

in peace, Tima, you will not be forgotte

After this is over, the war crimes trials will last for years.

GefreiterKania
7 Mar 2023  #1453

Why would Russia make

It's not Russia but sickf*ck Russian "soldiers". Why would anyone record himself raping a child and then send the vile footage to a comrade? And yet the Russian hero soldier, Alexei Bychkov, did just that. He also shared other videos of his abuse of children to other friends and colleagues.

Why would sickf*cks do sickf*ck things? Geez, Novi, I don't know - maybe because they're sickf*cks?

Tacitus
7 Mar 2023  #1454

Just a reminder to those who claim that Russians would never do something so stupidly evil: Only a short while ago Russians filmed the murder of a Wagner deserter with a sledgehammer and Russian officials later proudly send a bloody sledgehammer to the European parliament.

theintercept.com/2023/02/02/wagner-group-violence-sledgehammer/

PolAmKrakow
7 Mar 2023  #1455

Oh no, dont look now, but more attacks on Crimea are underway at the Sevastopol military base. Crazy how this happens more than once isnt it? Wagner group claiming they are not getting the ammo they were promised two weeks ago. Can you believe it?

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1456

Why would anyone record himself raping a child

Why would a country record the act of dropping a couple of nukes and, later, napalm? Why would a country scrupulously document gassing and burning people? Why would anyone celebrate the right to abort and be stupidly happy when granted?

Put those on the same scale alongside retail war crimes and give me your reaction.
Back to that "execution"... Real or staged, the optics is bad and does not serve Russia well. The question is what did the Russian army do to the photographer?

Can you believe it?

Yes. Just as it was hard to believe that American mothers would not be able to buy baby formula - in peacetime, in the world's biggest and bestest economy.

who claim that Russians would never do something so stupidly evil:

Who claimed that?

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1457

but more attacks on Crimea are underway at the Sevastopol military base

Nostradamus in you or undisclosed sources?

mafketis
7 Mar 2023  #1458

To those in denial regarding the execution of the Ukrainian soldier....

russians have been making similar videos for a while to very enthusiastic reactions of russian telegram

russian telegram celebrated when a disabled little girl was killed by russian missles in Vinnitsja...

russian telegram celebrated the earthquakes in turkey and syria....

hatred for non-russians is an inextricable part of russian 'culture'

GefreiterKania
7 Mar 2023  #1459

nukes (...) napalm (...) gassing and burning people

Horrible events from history. Would you also like to discuss atrocities in Middle Ages or ancient Greece? Very well, I'm quite sure there is a suitable thread for it somewhere. Here we are discussing Ukrainian war against Russian invaders, and atrocities commited during that war, so stay on topic.

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1460

Hey, Mr. Objectivity, opinions don't have to be sourced. Facts, and especially accusations, should be.

russian telegram celebrated when a disabled little girl was killed by russian missiles in Vinnitsja...

I know English well enough to detect slime.
When means during or while. When a missile destroys a military target AND kills "a disabled little girl" those who dropped that missile have every reason to celebrate the destruction.

A PF slime reports that they were celebrating her death.

johnny reb
7 Mar 2023  #1461

Looks like the neighboring nation of Moldova will be next to suffer from this war. :-(

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1462

Here we are discussing Ukrainian war against Russian invaders, and the atrocities committed during that war, so stay on topic.

...as if those were uniquely evil and uniquely Russian. Historical precedences matter and my mission here is to remind you about it - a one-person Ministry of Whataboutism.

PolAmKrakow
7 Mar 2023  #1463

@Novichok
Try doing your own research. Drone footage of a Ukraine drone landing on an Russian AWAC before blowing that up also available online. Unless baby formula is now used in bomb making it has no relevance to this conversation. You know, like any of the other bull$hit you post most times.

In Bakhmut Prigozhin says they have killed 11,000 Ukraine soldiers. While at least 60,000 Russians have been killed or wounded there. Thats is how Russia moves forward, climbing on the backs of their dead. Meanwhile the Orcs are running out of ammo there and another ten thousand Ukraine soldiers are headed that way as reinforcements. Prigozhin also saying if they dont get the ammo they were promised, that they will lose Bakhmut and the whole front line of Russia will fall. Look it up for your self dip$hit.

mafketis
7 Mar 2023  #1464

@Novichok

I posted the link where russians were celebrating a picture of her dead body

if you were too stupid to click the link to find out the truth about your beloved russia then that's on you, not me.

you ignore links and evidence and then pretend they never happened

You. Have. Lost. This. Discussion.

mafketis
7 Mar 2023  #1465

Iraqis

Irrelevant.

You. Still. Lose. This. Debate.

challenge: what is so great about the idea of russia taking over part of Ukraine that makes it worth 150,000 dead russian soldiers?

You've yet to answer that one.

You. Lose. This. Debate.

Novichok
7 Mar 2023  #1466

challenge: what is so great about the idea of Russia taking over part of Ukraine that makes it worth 150,000 dead Russian soldiers?

1. You are lying that it is 150,000. You have no idea how many died on both sides.
2. It's Russia's problem and decision.
3. Was it worth 1 trillion 2023 dollars, 58,000 dead, and 250,000 wounded Americans to watch Vietnam go commie anyway?
4. How many dead Ukrainians is Z-P=0 worth?
5. Donbas and Luhansk have a market value. Divide it by the number of dead on both sides to see if it's worth it.
6. How many Ukrainians died or are permanently disabled?
7. What did U get for it? Go easy on "pride" and other such crap.

mafketis
7 Mar 2023  #1467

1. You are lying that it is 150,000.

actually yes, it's 154,830 now

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1632985028622704640

It's Russia's problem

yep, russia decided to invade (a spectacularly bad idea bringing spectacularly bad effects)

4. How many dead Ukrainians is Z-P=0 worth?

How many dead russians? it works both ways if you really think there's no difference between putain and Zelenskyy then why is russia throwing away the lives of so many of its soldiers

and your stupid equation has been debunked. several times, you can't take in new information which is why people despise your slow, slow, very old brain...

I posted the story about a man who was arrested and charged by the russian government because of a drawing his daughter made in school.... you approve of that I guess so you'd be okay with the US government arresting you for your disloyalty?

PolAmKrakow
7 Mar 2023  #1468

@mafketis
What makes it worth losing the EU as an energy buyer? They will never go back to Russia. What makes it worth being ostracized internationally just for being Russian?

Crying Russophobia when the Russophobia is of their own making.

mafketis
7 Mar 2023  #1469

What makes it worth losing the EU as an energy buyer?

I don't expect an answer, just a repeat of the same, old, tired debunked RT talking points.... what a useless old f@rt...

pawian
7 Mar 2023  #1470

From time to time the words of wisdom appear on Russian state TV. A retired colonel claims Russians should end the war as soon as possible coz each new day their situation is getting worse.

Extraordinary exchange on Russian state TV's top talk show about Ukraine. Military analyst & retired colonel Mikhail Khodarenok tells anchor Olga Skabeyeva "the situation for us will clearly get worse...we're in total geopolitical isolation...the situation is not normal."


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