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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



pawian
7 Oct 2023  #3151

Dmowski saw it as a possibility to align itself with Russia pre-ww1.

Yes, complete azhole. That is why I fully reject Dmowski and his nationalist pro Russian heritage, still professed by Konfederacja party.

pawian
7 Oct 2023  #3152

Well said, Veli.

Excellent. When a decent Pole needs to throw up due to some stomach disorders (e.g. in my childhood I suffered awful stomachaches after I ate tomatoes with skin), they can use your posts. The treatment will be free of charge, good substitute for medicine or hot tea. hahahaha

Velund
7 Oct 2023  #3153

How long?

For example, look for statistics of lithuanian language speakers and population of Lithuania from 1900 to 2023.

Bratwurst Boy
7 Oct 2023  #3154

....okay....just an idea.....an occupied Ukraine could become like Gaza for Israel, right?

A hostile population who only wants to kill as many Russians as often as possible....never ending war and terrorist aka freedom fighter attacks!

Is that how Moscow pictures a "victory"?

pawian
7 Oct 2023  #3155

population of Lithuania from 1900 to 2023.

Where is the link or a quote???

pawian
7 Oct 2023  #3156

terrorist aka freedom fighter attacks!

During Russian occupation of Poland, Poles who threw bombs at Russian police or authorities weren`t terrorists but freedom fighters. Ukrainians are ones, too.


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Velund
7 Oct 2023  #3157

Where is the link or a quote???

This will be your homework...

pawian
7 Oct 2023  #3158

homework

Sorry, you have committed a major mistake now. It is me who assigns homework, not you. :):):):)
So, a link or a quote, please. :):):)

Velund
7 Oct 2023  #3159

It is me who assigns homework

I'm lucky enough to be out of the list of people who are under your control. ;) So, try to restore your googling skills. Once you find tables, mark periods of "independency" on them - and you'll see funny image... ;)

pawian
7 Oct 2023  #3160

I'm lucky enough to be out of the list of people who are under your control. ;

Thanks for reminding me about it, coz I might suppose you were...... :):):):)

So, try to

No, I am too old to play such silly games. You are not worth my time and energy. Provide a link or hop onto the tree! hahahaha

Novichok
8 Oct 2023  #3161

Memo to Russia-started-it morons: No, Russia didn't start it. If your attention span is at least 3 minutes, watch this video and you will be less moronic. I promise.

youtu.be/AIo3TYDvFvA

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3162

Big New War! Palestine Attacks Israel in Biggest, Most Organized Incursion Ever

dailystormer.in/big-new-war-palestine-attacks-israel-in-biggest-most-organized-incursion-ever/

Leftists Betrayed: Zelensky Backs Israeli Mass-Murderers in Palestine

dailystormer.in/leftists-betrayed-zelensky-backs-israeli-mass-murderers-in-palestine/

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3163

RESISTANCE FIGHTERS CAPTURE ENTIRE BATTALION HQ BASE FULL OF IDF MERKAVA TANKS AND ARMOR

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/s0OaRhu0TTGM/

Intel Slava Z
Forwarded from
/CIG/ Telegram | Counter Intelligence Global
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FRANCISCVS
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🇮🇱 ❌️ 🇵🇸 Bel Trew:
Israeli army told me today was "the worst day for Israeli civilians ever" recorded. At least 250 dead. One Major said "Parents are learning their children are kidnapped to Gaza from social media: Hamas is uploading photos of Israeli army IDs. It's chaos"


@CIG_telegram

independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-palestine-hamas-attack-netanyahu-b2425864.html
The Independent

🇮🇱 ❌️ 🇵🇸The Chief of the Israeli Defense Force's Northern Command has stated that they are preparing for Hezbollah to Join the War once Ground Operations begin in the Gaza Strip and that they are moving Forces to the North to Defend against that Eventuality.

@CIG_telegram

Parading Gen. Nimrod in his undies was hilarious. And the way the IDF tankers were pulled out of their tank and one of them appeared to be executed on the spot was hardcore, too. Hamas isn't showing any mercy toward female IDF either and rightly so.

As expected, Nuttyahoo has ordered the bombing of Gaza civilians and hundreds are dead, but at the moment, the Palis are whacking lots of jews, too

Bratwurst Boy
8 Oct 2023  #3164

has ordered the bombing of Gaza civilians and hundreds are dead,

Oh will they cry, all those still partying nutters, won't they....after Israel is done with them no stone will be left unturned!

The big change? The world won't care anylonger! No sympathies anymore!

....and great news for Germany btw. too....Israel's IRON DOME works! :)

twitter.com/ManojKu53708429/status/1710858531644321915

twitter.com/Nycon01/status/1710837986768609699

twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1710862465880502678

Looks good! Coming to Germany soon....

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3165

🇺🇸🇮🇱📝: Given the increasing severity of the ammunition shortage caused by Ukraine, U.S. policymakers are now in the difficult position of having to choose which partners they will materially support because there isn't enough to go around.

These sort of hard choices, where resources are cannibalized because of a shrinking total stock, are indeed a classic sign of Imperial decay and decline.


Bratwurst Boy
8 Oct 2023  #3166

.....I doubt Israel is that dependent on foreign military aid as Ukraine is!

They should be very well able to spank Gaza adequately through their own means....

PolAmKrakow
8 Oct 2023  #3167

Interesting read responsiblestatecraft.org/if-us-ended-aid-ukraine/

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3168

Looks like Poland will be getting the Israeli Iron Dome system too. Before Germany and probably for cheap.

The United States is offering Poland a deal to transfer part of its existing Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems to Ukraine in exchange for Washington supplying Israeli-made Iron Dome air defense systems to Warsaw.

~Politico

Interesting read responsiblestatecraft.org/if-us-ended-aid-ukraine/

Yep. I think the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft does a great job. This article was great too. On the Morality of choosing right vs right esp when you don't have boots on the ground.. responsiblestatecraft.org/us-ukraine-war-russia/

But these elements tell only part of the moral tale in Ukraine. German theorist Max Weber contrasted an "ethics of conviction" that battles against all injustice with an "ethics of responsibility" that calls for considering the potential results of such battles when weighing moral choices. An ethics of conviction argued that Western military intervention in Libya in 2011, intended to prevent mass atrocities by the barbarous Qadhafi regime, was the morally correct policy. An ethics of responsibility points out that America's good intentions resulted in disastrous instability that continues to radiate into Africa, the Middle East, and Europe to this day.

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3169

@polamkrakow
lets not forget that USA/EU is not only supplying military aid, they are propping up the whole state of Ukraine. Through many organisations such as the World Bank. Paying for 150k public servants and all the pensions and social services. If that aid/loans are cut off, the whole concept of Ukraine collapses, ie total anarchy.

PolAmKrakow
8 Oct 2023  #3170

@amiga500
Excellent article. The extremists on both sides need to start seeing things closer to the middle. Anyone who believes Ukraine can completely push out Russia from occupied territory is simply not a smart or realistic person. Anyone who thinks Russia is going to over run the rest of Ukraine is also not smart or realistic. This war ends at the negotiation table.

Now Biden has waived 28 laws in order to finish Trumps border wall. Of course that is a compromise to the Republicans. In return will the Republicans send some more money to Ukraine? Probably yes, but a reduced amount. The endless supply of money and arms for Ukraine will gradually slow from the US, and at the same time diplomacy should become more active.

Can Ukraine sustain these losses of men, developed property and civilians for another 15 months? I dont think so. Can Russia sustain the losses of men and arms? To their detriment, yes they can, and they have no problem sending more to die every day. Everyone, including myself, are waiting for the big breakthrough with the counter offensive. Small gains are nice, but they wont win the war. Will F-16s make a big enough difference? Will they arrive this winter, in time to make that difference?

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3171

That's what Mossad is for

Fiasco of Israeli services... Mossad, Shabak, plus it was on a Shabbat & the last day of the holiday Feast of Tabernacles - Sukkot. The Israelis were literally caught napping.

hebcal.com/holidays/sukkot-2023

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3172

That is irresponsible. We should become mods for ourselves.

I disagree, the political vision of libertarian yank-polak Admin when he set up this forum has been realised after many twists and turns. No FB style censorship and mod dictatorship. . A free speech playground :)

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3173

Will F-16s make a big enough difference?

USA only offering the mid-life upgrade of the F-16s to Ukraine, at best equal with the latest russian su-35 radar and missiles. Of course those AIM-9 Sidewinder on the wings are sweet. But with the amount of Anti-aircraft warfare systems in the area, on both sides, at best it will achieve parity with what the ruskis are doing. ie stay a long way away and fire missiles. It's no wunderwaffe.

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3174

They should be very well able to spank Gaza adequately through their own means....

Yeah, Hamas is no RuSSia... It raises the question why Hamas started it in the first place - they won't win and ordinary people will pay the biggest price, as usual... :/

RESISTANCE FIGHTERS

The difference between "resistance/freedom fighters" and "terrorists" is such that resistance/freedom fighters don't murder civillians in cold blood and don't kidnapp 2-year-old and 5-year-old children, like Hamas did yesterday in Israel. But I guess Putinists are too morally degenerated to understand or care about this difference.

Do you remember that, Crnogorac3?

I do.

Beslankids

Beslankids2

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3175

It raises the question why Hamas started it in the first place - they won't win and ordinary people will pay the biggest price, as usual... :/

Because like the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, they're pissed off? With the far far right current Israeli gov?

For all the idiots, this has nothing to do with russia. Israel and russia are best friends.

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3176

@amiga500, only Hamas is pissed off? I've heard opinions that it's their way to gain more influence among Palestinians and to get some Hamas prisoners released by Israelis.

Because like the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, they're pissed off?

Ghetto uprising started because Jews were to be taken to death camps and die anyway. So, a completely different situation.

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3177

I've heard opinions that it's their way to gain more influence among Palestinians

It's Iran, who sponsors hamas, trying to sabotage the Israeli-Saudi rapprochement. I think it's worked.

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3178

For all the idiots, this has nothing to do with russia.

Crnogorac3 seems to be of different opinion :))

Israel and russia are best friends.

Like during the Yom Kippur War? lol

It's Iran, who sponsors hamas

One doesn't exclude the other *shrugs*

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3179

Crnogorac3 seems to be of different opinion :))

Crnogorfag3 is an idiot.

Like during the Yom Kippur War? lol

Times change, you how many of tens of millions of russian jews are in Israel? Also Polish Jews thanks to 1968. Why has netanyahoo not provided any aid to Ukraine?

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3180

@paulina
Polish Jews founded the state of Israel. You know that making the Polish the official language of Israel only was not passed by the Knesset by a few votes?


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