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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3181

Crnogorfag3 is an idiot.

Yes, it does happen though that he honestly writes what he really thinks in his first reactions, like with Prighozyn and he "changes his mind" only later, so it makes me wonder...

Times change

RuSSia doesn't change though.

Why has netanyahoo not provided any aid to Ukraine?

Because he knows RuSSia can mess with Israel's security by supporting Palestinians and Israel's enemies in the region.
Also:

timesofisrael.com/in-first-israel-said-to-authorize-sale-of-defensive-military-equipment-to-ukraine/

"Israel has until now resisted providing weapons to Ukraine following Russia's invasion in February 2022. One major reason for Israel's hesitance appears to be its strategic need to maintain freedom of operations in Syria, where Russian forces largely control the airspace.

(...)

"As the war progresses, Israel has increasingly insisted that it is in fact on Ukraine's side, providing over $22.5 million in humanitarian aid and setting up a field hospital to treat wounded Ukrainians in the early days of the war. Last month, it voted alongside 140 other countries for a UN General Assembly resolution drafted by Kyiv calling for Russia to withdraw its forces from Ukraine."

(...)

"We say that all countries that supply weapons [to Ukraine] should understand that we will consider these [weapons] to be legitimate targets for Russia's armed forces," Moscow's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told reporters.

That warning came after Netanyahu said in an interview with CNN that he was "looking into" providing Ukraine with "other kinds of aid."

Now, connect the dots...

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3182

Netanyahu said in an interview with CNN that he was "looking into" providing Ukraine with "other kinds of aid."

5000 helmets? 5000 Red Cross bandages?

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3183

@amiga500, I don't know, but Israel was already sending humanitarian aid and agreed to supply electronic warfare system to defend against drone attacks, so what could "other kinds of aid" mean? And if you consider how paranoid RuSSia is...:

m.jpost.com/international/article-722196

And it seems like RuSSian propaganda was at work some time ago already (or...?):

youtu.be/PvErMBE5iYE

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3184

Latest developments:

Israeli forces clash with Hezbollah

100 Israelis kidnapped (some Americans may be amongst the hostages)

Hamas confirms Iranian support for the incursion into Israel

Riots break out in Arab areas of northern Israel (footage circulating on Telegram)

The Israel embassy in the U.S say 100 Israelis were kidnapped and taken to Gaza.


youtu.be/vyV66iLbMo0

Footage from a Kibbutz in Israel where dozens of cars on a highway have been shot up and burnt and passengers either killed or kidnapped by Hamas and Islamic jihad gunmen.

youtube.com/shorts/J68LoTzrTOM

ISRAELI SOLDIERS COME HOME AFTER TERRORIZING PALESTINE

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/8arYfm6Rfyc5/

IT SEEMS ISRAELI TIKTOK THOT ARMY WASN'T EFFECTIVE IN REAL COMBAT

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/WSd3GCCZLJV4/

ISRAELI TERRORIST REGIME IS BRINGING OUT THE M109 ARTILLERY TOWARD SDEROT

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/vrHm3kZGaMV1/

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3185

Paulina you're not getting it. Due to tens of millions of russian jews that are Israeli citizens, as well as the holocaust by bullets that preceded the concentration camps and gas chambers, (Babi Yar and a lot more.) Israel will always be on Russias side. nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/ukraine-holocaust

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3186

Footage from a Kibbutz in Israel where dozens of cars on a highway have been shot up and burnt and passengers either killed or kidnapped by Hamas and Islamic jihad gunmen.

You see? This is what terrorists do.

That one comes close to the heart....alot closer than anything Ukraine, if I'm honest!

I honestly don't understand why... RuSSian soldiers were doing the same and worse things in Ukraine - in Bucha, Irpin, etc. as Hamas does in Israel...

Israel will always be on Russias side.

It doesn't look like it, and, besides, it doesn't mean that RuSSia will be always on Israel's side. RuSSians are very... "pragmatic".

ConstantineK
8 Oct 2023  #3187

Polish Jews founded the state of Israel. You know that making the Polish the official language of Israel only was not passed by the Knesset by a few votes?

It must be because the Jews were so thankful for pogroms that Poles arranged in 1945-46 :)))

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3188

@ConstantineK, gee, I wonder why Ukrainians don't want RuSSian to be an official language in Ukraine... It must be because they are so thankful for Holodomor, etc. and for RuSSians invading their country and killing their people :)))

ConstantineK
8 Oct 2023  #3189

It must be because they are so thankful for Holodomor

You better repent for atrocities in "Polish death camps".

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3190

@ConstantineK, there was no such thing as "Polish death camps". There was, however, Holodomor and gulags in your beloved Soviet Union.

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3191

it seems there will be more ripped bums tonight

Captured Hamas fighters by the IDF.

twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1710746420389564906

no. 24 has a black dildo shoved in his ass...

Inhumane and inhuman treatment of a captured opponent... Why don't various HUMAN rights watch and other associations and foundations react?

ConstantineK
8 Oct 2023  #3192

@ConstantineK, there was no such thing as "Polish death camps".

Come on Paulina, the whole world perfectly knows, there were Polish death camps during ww2

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3193

there were Polish death camps during ww2

Please provide a source for this claim.

ConstantineK
8 Oct 2023  #3194

It is axiom. As you possibly knows, axioms do not need any proves. BTW any proces that "holodonor" was inspired by Soviet Union?

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3195

axioms do not need any proves.

o.k so you are even more of an idiot troll than cgnorafag, at least he's 10 percent intelligent. don't expect anymore from a teenager who claims to be a communist. i hate doing this but on the ignore list you go.

BTW any proces that "holodonor" was inspired by Soviet Union?

Yeah the Ukranians and Kazakhs did it to themselves. lolzo

GefreiterKania
8 Oct 2023  #3196

"holodonor" was inspired by Soviet Union

Yes. It is an axiom that, as you well know, doesn't need any proof.

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3197

Please provide a source for this claim.

ConstantineK got owned and now he's trolling. I'm guessing that he's alluding to the fact that Nazi death camps in Poland were called by Western press "Polish death camps" for short, which in no way can be compared to Holodomor being blamed on the Soviet Union policies or RuSSia invading Ukraine.

BTW any proces that "holodonor" was inspired by Soviet Union?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

"While scholars are in consensus that the cause of the famine was man-made, whether the Holodomor constitutes a genocide remains in dispute. Some historians conclude that the famine was deliberately engineered by Joseph Stalin to eliminate a Ukrainian independence movement. Others suggest that the famine was primarily the consequence of rapid Soviet industrialisation and collectivization of agriculture.

Ukraine was one of the largest grain-producing states in the USSR and was subject to unreasonably high grain quotas compared to the rest of the USSR. This caused Ukraine to be hit particularly hard by the famine."

no. 24 has a black dildo shoved in his ass...

It looks like a piece of cloth (some others have that too). It could be his underpants.

Inhumane and inhuman treatment of a captured opponent... Why don't various HUMAN rights watch and other associations and foundations react?

I don't know, it's the first time I see this photo, so why don't you send that photo to human rights organisations?

Btw, I don't remember you being so concerned about how badly Ukrainian POWs were being treated by RuSSians. You were even rejoicing in the fact that captured foreigners fighting for Ukraine will be executed by RuSSia, you sicko.

Novichok
8 Oct 2023  #3198

A free speech playground :)

That's exactly what I was saying years ago. Private parties don't have moderators and everybody is fine.

ConstantineK
8 Oct 2023  #3199

i hate doing this but on the ignore list you go.

Rolling eyes

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Wow !!! What a source!!! ;)))

Velund
8 Oct 2023  #3200

Funny text found on one of local Tg channels... Quite close to reality...

A missile or a powerful aerial bomb hits the center of a residential neighborhood, blowing the apartment building to rubble. How does a normal person react to that? Of course, it is a nightmare and a horror, something that should not happen. But for progressive people with good faces, it's more complicated: you shouldn't hurry with reactions, and you should first figure out whose house was whose and whose bomb was whose! 😳

If the bomb is Russian, then of course it is a war crime and an act of state terrorism. Whose house it was, in this case it doesn't even matter that much. If the bomb is Israeli and the house is Palestinian, that's fine; it was the Israelis who launched a preemptive strike on a terrorist den. If the bomb is Ukrainian and the house is Russian, that's fine; the Russians deserved it. If the bomb, again, is Ukrainian, and the house is in Donetsk, Lugansk or even Belgorod, that's fine too: the inhabitants of the house are to blame, because they voted in the referendum or elections, and we still need to figure out if they bombed themselves. If the bomb is American and the house is Iraqi, Afghan, Libyan or Serbian, then it's okay too, it's a fight for democracy for their own good. 🤬


Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3201

Wow !!! What a source!!! ;)))

Articles in Wikipedia are based on historical sources, history books, etc. so it makes no difference. There is no doubt that Holodomor was man-made, that it happened because of Soviet Union policies and that Ukraine was hit especially hard by it. What arguments do you have against those established facts?

Velund
8 Oct 2023  #3202

Articles in Wikipedia are based on

Often it is not based on reality, and groups of propaganda workers is busy editing history-related articles to create convenient "artificial reality". Names of "wrong" people tend to disappear from articles, as well as notes and links to articles about previous related events.

There was also "jokes" in a chemistry articles, that publish recommendation, releasing toxic gases if someone will try to reproduce this process at home.

Wikipedia become a resource that completely discredited itself.

ConstantineK
8 Oct 2023  #3203

Articles in Wikipedia are based on historical sources,

It is as in hollywood movies, always are "based on true events" :)

amiga500
8 Oct 2023  #3204

Often it is not based on reality, and groups of propaganda workers is busy editing history-related articles

I agree, but the Holmodor article on wiki is surprisingly balanced, as is the waffen-ss galicia one.

Novichok
8 Oct 2023  #3205

If the bomb is American and the house is Iraqi, Afghan, Libyan or Serbian, then it's okay too, it's a fight for democracy for their own good.

You forgot "freedom".

The full term is "freedom and democracy". Add "our legal representatives" to make bootlickers smile ... and me throw up ...

Velund
8 Oct 2023  #3206

is surprisingly balanced

You have to know much more about this from authoritative sources to decide what is truth and what is pure propaganda. And word "balanced" sounds funny, as it most likely mean 50% of truth and 50% or lies. ;)

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2023  #3207

as is the waffen-ss galicia one.

RAHOWA in action:

Jew Zelensky autographs the flag of SS Galicia

youtu.be/p71ajo5BZIc

mirrors:

youtu.be/2tGDiMYRg-k

bitchute.com/video/oacLDrZI7S14/

rutube.ru/video/e4649c04934fa9df71d5d9f636c0796f/

rutube.ru/video/05800712482e3ef81a1ec08ef7f41353/

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3208

I agree, but the Holmodor article on wiki is surprisingly balanced.

From what I've noticed articles in English on Wikipedia are usually balanced.

Wikipedia become a resource that completely discredited itself.

From what I've read once there are no more mistakes in Wikipedia than in any other established encyclopedias.

And, anyway, instead of focusing on one link/source I gave, why don't you focus on facts? What do you disagree with exactly as far as that article on Wikipedia and Holodomor is concerned?

And word "balanced" sounds funny, as it most likely mean 50% of truth and 50% or lies. ;)

It means that different viewpoints are being included in the article.

Novichok
8 Oct 2023  #3209

And word "balanced" sounds funny, as it most likely mean 50% of truth and 50% or lies. ;)

That was perfect, Velund.
The same with "compromise". As in: Dems and RINOs reached a compromise and decided to give Z only 90 instead of the 100 billion he demanded.

Paulina
8 Oct 2023  #3210

But OK, you want a more respectable source? There you go:

britannica.com/event/Holodomor

"Holodomor, man-made famine that convulsed the Soviet republic of Ukraine from 1932 to 1933, peaking in the late spring of 1933. It was part of a broader Soviet famine (1931-34) that also caused mass starvation in the grain-growing regions of Soviet Russia and Kazakhstan. The Ukrainian famine, however, was made deadlier by a series of political decrees and decisions that were aimed mostly or only at Ukraine. In acknowledgement of its scale, the famine of 1932-33 is often called the Holodomor, a term derived from the Ukrainian words for hunger (holod) and extermination (mor).

(...)

Collectivization led to a drop in production, the disorganization of the rural economy, and food shortages. It also sparked a series of peasant rebellions, including armed uprisings, in some parts of Ukraine.

(...)

That autumn the Soviet Politburo, the elite leadership of the Soviet Communist Party, took a series of decisions that widened and deepened the famine in the Ukrainian countryside. Farms, villages, and whole towns in Ukraine were placed on blacklists and prevented from receiving food. Peasants were forbidden to leave the Ukrainian republic in search of food. Despite growing starvation, food requisitions were increased and aid was not provided in sufficient quantities. The crisis reached its peak in the winter of 1932-33, when organized groups of police and communist apparatchiks ransacked the homes of peasants and took everything edible, from crops to personal food supplies to pets. Hunger and fear drove these actions, but they were reinforced by more than a decade of hateful and conspiratorial rhetoric emanating from the highest levels of the Kremlin."


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