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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Bratwurst Boy
11 Oct 2023  #3271

Interesting video!

In the prisoner of war camp

spiegel.de/ausland/kriegsgefangenenlager-wie-die-ukraine-mit-russischen-soldaten-umgeht-spiegel-tv-a-762ad9e1-94ba-4ff9-9fd9-49d3f7c3dc45

How Ukraine deals with Russian soldiers

Many Russian soldiers captured in Ukraine were hired to fight in the war as convicts in prison or were recruited for the money. Now they feel betrayed and sold by the Kremlin.


Novichok
11 Oct 2023  #3272

Does that mean it is all OK then Rich?

Yes, because "some" can be 2.

PolAmKrakow
12 Oct 2023  #3273

Interesting that Russia has banned the export of oil and gas since September 21 in order to keep the products at home to reduce steadily rising consumer prices. This is a clear statement that there are problems in Russia due to sanctions. A self imposed ban on the only product they really had to sell to China and India is not exactly the picture of economic health some would like to paint.

Cargo pants
12 Oct 2023  #3274

India is not exactly the picture of economic health some would like to paint.

Yeah and fuc.king Indians making big moola outta this,they are importing from ruski land,refining and exporting to the EU.They have no fu.cking oil but built refineries.exports went bonkers.They call India as ruski oil laundromat for the EU.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/indias-fuel-exports-to-eu-up-572-since-ukraine-war/articleshow/100975043.cms

Velund
12 Oct 2023  #3275

This is a clear statement that there are problems in Russia due to sanctions.

This is clear statement that government trying to say "fcuk your export superprofits, first fill internal market" to domestic diesel/petrol manufacturers (not gas and oil).

PolAmKrakow
12 Oct 2023  #3276

@Velund
It is the government taking control, and it is because of sanctions. And the ban is on domestic oil, gasoline, and diesel. On a more positive note, imports from the North Korean fake luxury brand producers are up just in time for the Christmas season. Fresh loads of Louie Bouton bags are available everywhere, and some very nice Lewis are now available at the newly reopened Macies. Russia is of course the most advanced stone age civilization.

Bobko
12 Oct 2023  #3277

the ban is on domestic oil, gasoline, and diesel

The ban does not extend to oil. It simply doesn't make sense - we wouldn't have anywhere to store all the oil we pump. Russia extracts tons more oil than it consumes.

The issue is not oil extraction, but refining capacity. We're limited on items like diesel, but also only because it so so much more profitable to sell it abroad than to sell it in Russia. This is why the government enforced a diesel ban.

Velund
12 Oct 2023  #3278

It is the government taking control, and it is because of sanctions.

This has happened many times, including long before most of the current sanctions were imposed. As an example, speculators drive up the price of motor fuel on the world market on the background of some unrelated event that may decrease world supply. This happens during crop harvesting in our hemisphere. Local traders have a dollar sign in their eyes instead of pupils and they inflate domestic prices for diesel and gasoline to parity of profitability with export supplies. Farmers ask the government a question: "Are those traders fcuked up there?" And a measure of non-tariff regulation quickly appears , which makes some people on the exchanges weep and gnash their teeth, and agricultural producers begin to feel much calmer. And the price of food does not jump like crazy.... Soros is unhappy to see this.

And it seems to me that Putin will survive the ingratitude of a couple of hundred commodity dealers much easier than ingratitude of millions of bankrupt farmers. And the majority of the population would rather support a real producer than a speculator, especially if that speculator trying to drive average citizen expences up to become richer.

Bobko
12 Oct 2023  #3279

And it seems to me that Putin will survive the ingratitude of a couple of hundred commodity dealers

You lay things out, in slightly different fashion than I would :)

In its essence it's correct, however.

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3280

A self imposed ban on the only product

If they did the opposite and started dumping oil at a discount, some would call it an act of desperation and proof of economic distress.

Fresh loads of Louie Bouton bags are available everywhere,

Good. It's an outrage that a 10-buck bag sells to stupid women for 4 grand just because some faggot has his name on it. At the same time, the bit*ch tells her husband that he cannot have his dream speakers because they are too expensive.

cms neuf
12 Oct 2023  #3281

Capital controls are back in Udmurtia LOL - I hope you loser trolls are keeping your rubles somewhere safe, in a few weeks they will come in useful for keeping the house warm or wall paper.

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3282

in a few weeks they will come in useful for keeping the house warm or wall paper.

If somebody gave you a million rubles, would you use them as wallpaper?

PolAmKrakow
12 Oct 2023  #3283

To the Russian supporters, the make believe world that Russia is not in trouble due to sanctions is simply a fantasy. Russia is in deep $hit financially. They are in a full blow war economy and are not winning the war. It is a stalemate at best. The ruble is toilet paper, in some cases worth less than luxury toilet paper. That is just a fact. To be fair, Ukraine is a swamp just like Russia, only it is a democratic swamp, so just a little less $hitty.

@Novichok
My point was not about fags and luxury bags. My point is about how Russia is trying to paint a Rembrant using dog $hit for paint.

cms neuf
12 Oct 2023  #3284

Officially worth 10.000 bucks, actually worth maybe 2000.

I think I would donate them to some of the limbless veterans in Udmurtia. Right now they just get a bag of pelmeni and some tea towels

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3285

My point was not about fags and luxury bags.

I didn't mean to say you were wrong. There are subjects I just can't resist commenting on.

only it is a democratic swamp,

Did you mean democratic or "democratic"?

PolAmKrakow
12 Oct 2023  #3286

@Novichok
Meaning there were real elections with more than one candidate. Granted, Z ran on a platform of peace with Russia and has done nothing to support his actual platform, all the same it was a real election. Putin on the other hand would never allow for real competition to face him.

As for fags and bags, I get it. Russia does it right and controls the LGBTQ rhetoric publicly, so does Poland for the most part. Elections in three days and we will all know more about Polands fate, and the fate of continued aid to Ukraine as well as EU issues. This is going to be a very interesting weeekend.

pawian
12 Oct 2023  #3287

but also only because it so so much more profitable to sell it abroad than to sell it in Russia.

Then tell us what caused such a situation?? Had similar shortages and bans been taking place in Russia before the war??? No, they werent. The Kremlin is pressed by the sanctions and costs of the war, they desperately need hard currency which oil companies earn by exporting fuels.

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3288

Just as Great Britain imploded after WW2, the US will implode under the burden of unpayable and unserviceable debt. Russia knows it and waits for the dead man to fall on his stupid overspending face.

Russia is spot on about finding the existence of a hostile albeit smaller country non-negotiable and unacceptable. As if to underscore this point, Hamas did Israel. It couldn't have come at a better moment.

Hamas did Russia a great service by illustrating how that works. A little sh*ithole with two million of dirt-poor unemployed illiterates is all of a sudden an existential threat to mighty Israel with its world's best army, nukes, and total support from the world's #1 superpower.

Putin knows all of this and that is why 500,000 Ukrainians are dead now. And then there is this brilliant Novi's Z-P=0 Z ignored.

Mr. Z, you are a moron and I am a genius who would be better for Ukraine that you, a-hole.

pawian
12 Oct 2023  #3289

Russia knows it

Don`t worry, Russia will implode first. :):):)

500.000 Ukrainians are dead

You are lying as usual. It is 5 million. Russian casualties - 50 million.
Get your numbers correct at last. Ha!

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3290

Don`t worry, Russia will implode first. :):):)

Russian society is not the kind that will collapse. They are of one mind and purpose. And they are patriots - a concept that is seen as another form of fascism here.

The US is a multiculti mosaic of madness waiting for that brick at the bottom to crumble. It will be sad...It actually already is.

Would you like to see some pictures?

This is how the Titanic crew felt at -1 minute.

usdebtclock.org/

pawian
12 Oct 2023  #3291

They are of one mind and purpose.

Like Matrix???

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3292

Pawian, often I am ready to joke. Not here and not now. I used the Titanic analogy for a reason that is not funny or cute.

When this idiocy aka America collapses I will be dead. My kids and their kids will pay dearly for the sins of morons they never met.

pawian
12 Oct 2023  #3293

Pawian, often I am ready to joke.

Yes, your lies about Ukraine prove it.

Not here and not now

No, your lies about Ukraine disprove it. :):):)

pawian
12 Oct 2023  #3294

When this idiocy aka America collapses

States or empires collapse and new entities are born in their place. Read the The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by my great uncle, Professor Gibbon. Ancient Rome fell but today`s Italy is a successful continuation of it.

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3295

Italy is a successful continuation of it.

...that is being overrun by the neo-barbarians aka useless scum nobody wants. So much for a successful continuation...
That was a good one, pawian...I mean as a joke...

Novichok
12 Oct 2023  #3296

Russian society is not the kind that will collapse.

American will. Watch and see the difference, pawian...

youtu.be/L5apzktJyos

youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM

PolAmKrakow
13 Oct 2023  #3297

@pawian
States and Empires do collapse. The last real "empire" to collapse was the Soviet Union. Russia and the former countries within the USSR still have not risen to where they could be and its been 30 years. How long can Europe survive without the US if the US collapses? My bet is not as long as it will take for the US to reform under some new system. Europe and the world needs a stron US, and everyone needs to find a way out of Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Russia has brought back capital controls to prop up the ruble, and they just canceled the building of an industrial zone in Egypt to save money. Granted, no one expected Russia to be so resilient with all these sanctions, but they are takaing a toll long term. Russia is prepared for another year or more of a war economy, and the US is not in my opinion. Polands elections this weekend are also very important for Ukraine. Tusk is not going to win, so the question is can they manage a stalemate in government in Poland and still continue to help Ukraine? I dont think so.

mafketis
13 Oct 2023  #3298

Polands elections this weekend are also very important for Ukraine

AFAIK the only anti-Ukrainian party is the pro-russian Konfederacja (polling well under 10%)

PolAmKrakow
13 Oct 2023  #3299

@mafketis
And they are talking about partnering with PiS in order to form a government if they can do it. Dont underestimate the anti Ukraine sentiment in Poland right now.

mafketis
13 Oct 2023  #3300

talking about partnering with PiS in order to form a government

Dog meat for everyone!!!!!!

Are russians involved with the hamas attacks?

twitter.com/qwest__/status/1712453466247885007


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