Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

Yes. And of course those POWs (the defenders of Azovstal) that they put in the building and then dynamited.


And how much of the hooey you write about have you observed personally...

The only difference - they was put to building by Russians and "dynamited" by HIMARS missile by someone else. Try to guess who...

I haven't observed any personally, just as I wasn't present when the Berlin Wall fell or Messi won the World Cup.

I read it and saw pictures in our thriving independent media

You just couldn't make this sh*t up...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raport-ukraina-rosja/news-dlugoterminowy-plan-dla-ukrainy-media-ujawniaja-szczegoly,nId,6961341

... apparently the West has started preparations for Ukrainian army's spring offensive, in 2024. And somehow Japan and a guy called Dmytro Horenburg are involved.

Someone hand me a glass of water, please. :D

Do you have to believe in everything what you read on the net???


You already have had too many glasses of fire water! Basta!

Follow the sources.... apparently the source for this is the Wall Street Journal, owned by the same people who own Fox news which has consistently been a source of republicans who want to cut aid to Ukraine... not because they support russia so much (though some do, having drunk the same kool-aid Novi has) but because they don't care how many Europeans are killed (and they don't understand how the aid mechanism works....).

I'm going to be agnostic about that for the time being....

Meanwhile in Surgut russia somebody had their own opinion and publicized it.... jail probably awaits....

twitter.com/Heroiam_Slava/status/1690805738220744704

The burden of proof that Russia mistreats POWs is on you.


Let's start with how many were executed. You can round it off to the nearest 10.
If you are clueless, ask God.
If you were an eyewitness, one name will be fine.


They never do. Let's call rectal knowledge.

Indeed. r*SSia deliberately killed them, against the Geneva Convention.

One more count for the war crimes trials.


Good. Would you rather they didn't plan?

Meanwhile flooding in russia's far east as a dam breaks (karma!?!).

twitter.com/DEFCONNEWSTV/status/1690458150649184257

twitter.com/mishika_singh/status/1690376178308378625

Typically when this kind of things happen.... those affected receive no government aid... so..... sucks to be them....

Hahahahaha!

Do you ever listen to yourself?

Yes, friend, Ukraine is doing fantastically, and next year Zelensky will celebrate his birthday on the beach in Crimea. Don't let Rupert Murdoch tell you otherwise.


It's ok. Whatever they'll have for 2024, will necessarily be smaller than 2023. There's a thousand articles from this year, regarding dwindling stocks and how it will take the better part of a decade to build them back up. Therefore, logically, 2024 will be a much "hungrier" year for Ukraine's military.

Also, by then, Russia would have had 1.5 years to dig defenses, instead of just 8 months.

Honestly, sounds great.

There are at least four major parties to this war:

Ukraine
Russia
US
Western Europe

I despise Western Europe the most. In that group: the UK. Then Poland and Germany.

Each of those could stop this war but didn't.

Ukrainians won't fly F-16s until summer 2024 - WaPo
Pilots have yet to complete the necessary English language lessons and will only start combat training in January

WaPo is assuming that those F-16s will not be disassembled, parts stolen, and sold. Or that they will still be needed...

Some comments to go with #343:

A day late and a dollar short, by 2024 its unlikely Ukraine will exist.

Russia has already decimated most of what is left of Ukraine's fighter aircraft, and RUNWAYS! ... Any F16's would have to be launched from Poland (from immaculately maintained runways)... and that, is a whole new can of NATO Article 5 worms, especially if they are Polish pilots.

Now that the World has learned how useless the NATO tanks, missiles, Bradley's, howitzer, and drones, are against Russia's Weapons, we'd get another priceless opportunity to witness Russia's superior fighter Jets crashing the US's F-16s in their first flight.

I wonder if gender studies will be included before combat training.

...or if any U pilots will not demand to be "transitioned". At the US expense, of course...

F-22, F-35, or F-16 are wonderful only in Hollywood PR films, so they don't want to expose their useless junks made out of taxpayers' trillion dollars in the face of confrontation with real opponents.

I would rather all Dmytro Horenburgs of this world stopped bullsh*tting us to such a galactic extent.

I would rather see most powerful people in the West start working on peace, not on another legendary offensive.

Seriously... :-/

For this, I was called "a surrender boy" a year or so ago by some a-hole who never left mommy's basement to fight Russia.

Yes forgot to mention some of the other parties to the war

Uganda, North Korea, Iran, China, South Africa and all the other third worlders supplying arms to Udmurtia. They are probably also wondering why Ukraine hasn't surrendered yet

I'm sorry that is all peace you are going to get in your livetime. Now, wars and conflicts will start, you havn't seen anything yet.

How much do you want to reward russia for its military aggression?

Anything but total defeat will be announced domesticaly as a great triumph and a reason to rearm and attack again.... surely you realize that. If not, why not? Upon what are you basing your implicit assumption that russia can be trusted to honor any aggreement?

The most powerful people in the West working for peace ?

Worked well in 1938 - one year before Udmurtia and their Nazi allies invaded Poland

Is not going to happen. Can you not see it, after 18 months of this war?


On the crazy assumption that they are also human and also love their children.

Beautiful thought, Sting.... what concern for children do you perceive in the current russian government?


How much "bombing of civilians" did you personally witness in the Donbas (2014-22)?

The current Russian government counted on a quick blitz campaign and a brilliant victory. It didn't exactly go according to plan, but unfortunately Putin sees no viable way out of it for himself. So they're stuck.

We should therefore concentrate on "unstucking" them towards peace rather than on planning the prolonging of this war ad infinitum.

In other words.... appeasement. Land for peace. How well has that ever worked with a totalitarian government?

So should we force Ukraine to make peace with Russia against their will? If so, how do you propose could we prevent Russia from invading them again in a few years? Do you want them to join NATO? Russia would hardly accept this as part of a peace right now. Do you want the West to give Ukraine binding security agreements, which even if upheld, would leave us in a very unfortunate position if Russia invades again since Russia would have a far more benficial bridgehead into Ukraine than before 2022. Or do you want to force Ukraine to make peace without any assueances? That would go against Ukraine's and our interests, since it would leave Ukraine vulnerable and the West with a possibly even worse geopolitical situation.

Whereas it is in our and Ukraine's interest to support them as long as the Ukrainians wish to fight. The weaker Russia becomes due to this war, the safer everybody else will be down the line.

And look at the flower of russian manhood your country finds suitable to send to the front! How can you lose with dynamos like this?

twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1691022281886040064

bonus question: why is everything russian broken down and/or dirty and/or broken and/or just plain nasty.... are russians really immune to the.... aesthetics of their "culture"?

The main reason everything is broken is because of the high level of alcoholism among "working" class Udmurtians.

They are either thinking about drink, drinking or recovering from drinking and so take no interest or pride in their work.

Great to see the Rubel hitting new lows today. Back to crypto again to pay for your nigirii set in the 24 hour sushi bars ?

I see the rouble has dropped quite a bit today.

Q. What is the link between pounds, roubles and dollars?
A. It takes a pound of roubles to buy one dollar..........

The Russian ruble has reached its lowest value since the early weeks of the war in Ukraine as Moscow increases military spending and Western sanctions weigh on its energy exports.

Today the Russian currency passed 101 rubles to the dollar, continuing a more than 25% decline in its value since the beginning of the year and hitting the lowest level in almost 17 months.

if you`re happy and you know it, clap your hands! Clap! Clap!! hahahaha
Down with imperialist Russia!

25% is a lot, so sanctions work.