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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



pawian
29 Oct 2023  #3751

No where else are the 20% freaks trying to tell the 80% normal people

Why such numbers??? The division of votes is around 50 - 50 - liberals and cons are locked in a clinch. And it is only an economic situation which decides about which side gets the 1% majority.

not in the indisriminate bombing and killing of women and children in Gaza. This is no better than what Russia is doing to civilians in Ukraine

Yes. I am surprised you are so reasonable on it.

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2023  #3752

@pawian
The 20% to 80% is the divide between regular American people, not political groups. The support for the radical left agenda is not even there in the Democratic party. Again, no one cared who was gay or trans or any other spirit animal. No one cared until those groups forced their agenda onto children and into schools. Not talking about the political divide on traditional political matters. In that repsect it is close to 50/50. But Biden is not even going to get the support of his own party the way he did before, and that is going to be the end of Ukraine support.

I never support terrorist behavior, no matter who is responsible. Israel is really going to bring on its own demise if it keeps using these tactics.

mafketis
29 Oct 2023  #3753

what is it with all these so called "progressive", these feminists, LGBTQ's and such who now support hardcore islamists

Leftists reflexively (automatically) side with anyone that seems to be in opposition to any power (except their own). That's why they side with criminals over victims.

They also reflexively side with anyone non-white against anyone white. They think of Islam as a religion of brown people and so they side with it against 'white' religions like Christianity and Judaism.

It's nuts but look for counter-examples... you wont' find them.

pawian
29 Oct 2023  #3754

The 20% to 80% is the divide between regular American people, not political groups.

I still claim it isn`t a factual division but you made it up to suit your agenda. Show me polls which corroborate your numbers.

jon357
29 Oct 2023  #3755

Leftists reflexively

A certain type of leftist perhaps, just as a certain type of rightist does the same.

They also reflexively side with anyone non-white against anyone white. They think of Islam as a religion of brown people

I invite you to the northern English rustbelt. I'm here for a few more days.

pawian
29 Oct 2023  #3756

reflexively

In Polish reflexively means after a huge dose of thinking. :):):)

mafketis
29 Oct 2023  #3757

In Polish it would be associated with refleksja (reflection)

In English it's associated with (automatic) reflex (the automatic involuntary action - odruch)

jon357
29 Oct 2023  #3758

It's a false friend like reprezentacyjny meaning the best rather than the typical.

ConstantineK
29 Oct 2023  #3759

The USSR wanted to spread communism everywhere and destroy the US with its superior model of government. It worked so well for the USSR, China and Cuba. Fantastic societies.

You are insane. The USSR had already stoped spreading revolution by 1924. All later additions to socialist camp would be made merely as the result of Soviet reaction to hostilities from the west.

Furthermore, I consider that Western part of the World must be destroyed.

amiga500
29 Oct 2023  #3760

You are insane.

So we insane, but funilly enough u stopped talking about the Polish Poriun, you know that world class polish tech (better than usa stingers or the brit stuff) that smashed ure ruski airplanes and pilots out of the sky. t hats how we roll we kill ruskis. we polaks love this ****.

ConstantineK
29 Oct 2023  #3761

So we insane, but funilly enough u stopped talking about the Polish Poriun, you know that world class polish tech

I stopped talking because there is no such notion as polish tech. You are living in your imagination where poland is the great power whilst it is absolutely contrary.

Furthermore, I consider that Western part of the World must be destroyed

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2023  #3762

@ConstantineK
Russia, its government, and military must be destoyed or made as impotent as little Vlad. Russia is a turd world nation, with fourth world values. I wouldnt pi$$ on you if you were on fire.

ConstantineK
29 Oct 2023  #3763

Russia, its government, and military must be destoyed or made as impotent as little Vlad.

Now we are observing quite contrary. Europe is crumbling, America is in total disarray.

Furthermore, I consider that Western part of the World must be destroyed

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2023  #3764

@ConstantineK
Russia's only export now is their women to middle east camel jockies. This is the Russian pimp economy. Europe is just fine without Russia and its people. Dont need the Russian gas any more either. America will figure it out, and in the mean time, citizens still dont need to worry about being killed for expressing their opinions. The rest of the civilized world with indoor plumbing is still waiting for Russia to join the 21st century and produce a currency that is worth more than a piece of used Charmin.

ConstantineK
29 Oct 2023  #3765

Russia's only export now is their women to middle east camel jockies. This is the Russian pimp economy.

You are really dumb. There is no such thing as European economy without Russia. And we are clearly see it from the start of SMO. America will not figure out without real civil war. Actually it is already going though you do not see it yet.

Furthermore, I consider that Western part of the World must be destroyed

amiga500
29 Oct 2023  #3766

Russia's only export now is their women to middle east camel jockies

thats right everywhere, warsaw, krakow, and new york, 200 zloty an hour , u can get a fine ruski wh*re. , in the meantime USA obsolete ATACMS cluster munitions and new GLDSB are smashing the ruski supply lines in Ukraine. these idiots don't know what hit them.

Furthermore, I conside

Furthermore I consider you a full bore total idiot

amiga500
29 Oct 2023  #3767

@bobko
u banging the ruski wh*es and sluts since your ukranian wife left you? Don't forget all russian young women in NY are wh*rs and sluts. ruski women do in N^ as they do as in total sluts. Like the Haitian ladies.

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2023  #3768

@ConstantineK
You are clearly a country fvck Russian. Not only does Europe not need Russia, we have been getting along fine without Russia for over a year and a half now. That American gas burns nicely. And no one here really liked caviar that much anyway. Americans always figure it out. Just like we figured out to use the lend lease program to have the Russians do the dying in WW2. You know, because Russia couldnt build a fvcking truck that worked if they had to save themselves. Example all those beautiful blown up tanks rusting away in Ukraine. Carry on now, go eat rock and tree bark soup.

Novichok
29 Oct 2023  #3769

Please excuse me, but what exactly America produces in order to sustain this trade exchange, green paper?

Great question, CK.

The US makes nothing other than weapons.

"Trade" is a misnomer. We don't trade. We buy. Huge difference. I am not going to explain it since we all know what it is.

amiga500
29 Oct 2023  #3770

The US makes

It's called Pax America idiot, and be thankful it lasted this long, cause your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren will be facing a worse future than you grew up in, thanks to the failing democracy-empire. no thanks to traitor kunts like novi that pissed on america every chance they could.

Korvinus
29 Oct 2023  #3771

It's called Pax America

I would like to see the rules based international order strengthened to the point where the US feels secure and comfortable relying on and submitting to it, but that isn't going to happen under the UN while both Russia and China have vetos as members of the security council and have the intention to undermine it.

And it should be noted that the only truly significant teeth of the UN that we have ever had has been the US military. If the world wants the US to have less influence and control, the world would need to step up their willingness to be the UN's police. I don't want the US to be the world's police, but that won't change until enough other countries step up.

I would love to see Europe step up as full partners in this. Maybe the Ukraine war will be somewhat of a catalyst for this, although even for the Ukraine war Europe still seems to prefer NATO as the framework for a response rather than the EU.

Although there absolutely are several countries that have been very willing in this area, they are just unfortunately not large enough to counter-balance the US or provide significant enough deterrence or enforcement. We would need quite a few more countries to step up in this way to have enough of a collective impact. And if China ever changes their ways, unlikely as that is, I would also love to see them as a partner as well.

Novichok
29 Oct 2023  #3772

Memo to the anti-Russia club here: Chill out with name-calling. Just imagine this forum without the Russians. You would die from boredom.

It's called Pax America idiot,

Hey, moron, it's Pax Amaricana
Your post is so full of contradictions that I will ignore until you clean it, distill it to one simple point, and remove personal comments. See you then...

Novichok
29 Oct 2023  #3773

I would like to see the rules based international order strengthened to the point where the US feels secure

A condensed version of your post...

World, GFY!

Novichok for President Campaign

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2023  #3774

Moscow has threatened to seize the assets of "unfriendly" European states if the EU implements plans to use earnings from frozen Russian funds to help Ukraine, as officials from more than 60 states met to discuss Kyiv's proposals for peace talks with the Kremlin.

irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/10/29/moscow-threatens-to-seize-eu-assets-if-russian-funds-used-to-defend-ukraine/

Maybe Z is pulling his head out of his a$$ and wanting peace talks now that the new Speaker of the US house has said he will put forth funding for Israel and NOT Ukraine. Oh no, looks like $hit is about to get real for Ukraine.

AntV
29 Oct 2023  #3775

@PolAmKrakow

It appears this Speaker is guided by a defined set if principles, so chances are he really means it. He also seems to be willing to make principles compromises, so he may be using Uke funding as a leverage chip. Regardless, things are going to be different.

pawian
29 Oct 2023  #3776

Moscow has threatened to seize the assets of "unfriendly" European states if the EU implements plans

Nothing new. They did it before to EU companies or airlines. So there isn`t much to be seized. Good luck anyway. The bigger the gap between Europe and Russia, the better.

Speaker of the US house has said he will put forth funding for Israel and NOT Ukraine.

Yes, those Rep azholes are really amaSSing. Good that RR hasn`t lived to see his party buddies act so ignominously.

This means Europe will have to make up for American part. We are ready. Poland, I mean.

PolAmKrakow
29 Oct 2023  #3777

@pawian
You missed the point. The point is;

"officials from more than 60 states met to discuss Kyiv's proposals for peace talks with the Kremlin."

No one GAF about what Moscow does with business interests at this point. But its certainly noteworthy that peace talks are being discussed.

pawian
29 Oct 2023  #3778

noteworthy that peace talks are being discussed.

They have been discussed since the first day of the invasion. Nothing new. So, I didn`t miss anything. Ha!

"officials from more than 60 states met to discuss Kyiv's proposals

You forgot to add that Russia wasn`t there. You missed the point. Sorry.

Novichok
29 Oct 2023  #3779

It appears this Speaker is guided by a defined set if principles,...

If he really is, he will stop funding everything outside US borders and let the world run by itself. That should include ending all foreign aid.

Memo to Americans: Stop being so stupidly generous. The earth will continue spinning as it has been since the beginning of time without your intervention.

pawian
29 Oct 2023  #3780

Stop being so stupidly generous.

Then the world will stop buying US weapons. The only thing that America produces according to your words. You will be starved. Do you really want it???


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