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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Guest
21 Aug 2023  #571

I cannot verify this info but it looks very plausible.

It's not from Myśl Polska. I don't know where you got it from but it definitely doesn't sound plausible.

There's a difference between volumteers/mercenaries and regular Polish soldiers (of which I can give you tbe exact number currently in Ukraine - zero).

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #572

Well, at least 10 thousand bare polish diaphragms are scattered across the ukraine now.

Where's that link? :D

I think Poland is dangerously close to the Fifth Partition.

You have no mercy, do you... LOL
NATO's reaction to your "thinking":

hahaha

I cannot verify this info but it looks very plausible.

Why, why, why are you doing this to me... Nooo, I can't, I just can't anymore...

havemercy

Obviously there are Polish volunteers in Ukraine and they do get killed too - I even gave links to Polish articles about the fallen Polish volunteers on this forum.

There are interviews with Polish volunteers, articles about them. Noone in Poland is hiding the fact that there are Polish volunteers fighting in Ukraine. I think majority of Poles are proud of them. But there's nowhere near 10 000 of them there o_O 🤦

pawian
21 Aug 2023  #573

ConstantineK, where is the link to that unbelievable info?

Why isn`t our forum visited by decent Russians who oppose their gangster leaders, their war and don`t lie in such a stupid way??? It is really amassing what crazy propaganda those putinists spread. And they are doing it so cheekily, ignoring the fact that their lies are so easy to be debunked.

I think Poland is dangerously close

Quite impossible in current conditions. Sooner than that Russia will fall apart into a dozen Russistans.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #574

There's a difference between volumteers/mercenaries and regular Polish soldiers (of which I can give you tbe exact number currently in Ukraine - zero).

We all perfectly know how this system really works. Now it is regular polish soldier and few days later he has furlough to join volunteers aka mercenaries in the ukraine.

Why isn`t our forum visited by decent Russians who oppose their gangster leaders, their war and don`t lie in such a stupid way.

Well, may be i am brainwashed, it is totally ok if you really think so. I think absolutely the same about absolute majority of the Poles. But you will hardly deny that now Poland is under heavy burden od debts because of its armament programm. The US will probably through it under the bus of the following war, where Poland, actually, has now a little chance to win.

We all know from the history how all these tries end up for Poland.

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #575

Why isn`t our forum visited by decent Russians who oppose their gangster leaders, their war and don`t lie in such a stupid way???

Russians living in RuSSia get arrested for anti-war activity online.

We all perfectly know how this system really works. Now it is regular polish soldier and few days later he has furlough

No, it isn't enough to take a furlough. A Polish soldier would have to leave the Polish military.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #576

You have no mercy, do you... LOL
NATO's reaction to your "thinking":

Do you think that NATO is even slightly capable organization now? Apparently Poland will be wasted absolutely the same way as the ukraine after its already failed offensive.

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #577

Do you think that NATO is even slightly capable organization now?

Of course. And much more capable than RuSSia ;D

mafketis
21 Aug 2023  #578

russians to the world: "You need to respect us!"

also russians: say and do the stupidest bvllsh|t possible....

the world to russians: you hoes be crazy!

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #579

Mysl Polska states that Poland have already lost 10 thousand people in the Ukraine.

ConstantineK, end of joking time - where is that link to the supposed article in "Myśl Polska"? And if you don't have the original link then where did you read or hear that this is what "Myśl Polska" stated?

"Myśl Polska" is a niche nationalist pro-RuSSian and anti-Ukrainian newspaper and they write all kind of crap, but if they posted such outright fake news then I'd like to know about it.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #580

Of course. And much more capable than RuSSi

Than you fundamentally wrong in your thoughts. NATO is short of everything and will certainly not invoke article 5 in case of any real problems. Russia will literally steamroll Poland as we have no any sentiments towards Poland unlike Ukraine. Poland simply has neither resources nor operation depth to endure future war with Russia. And please do not tell me that either the US or NATO will step in. We all know they will not.

ConstantineK, end of joking time - where is that link to the supposed article in "Myśl Polska"

Paulina, please read me carefully above. I openly said I have no solid corroboration. Just would like to know what poles think on this issue. And i see that you all are very much alerted.

Bobko
21 Aug 2023  #581

I openly said I have no solid corroboration

Nobody is expecting you to go fact check the article, but you did say you read it in that publication. Hence... confusion.

10,000 dead Poles is a little much. That means maybe 25,000-40,000 wounded in action. That would put Polish losses as a rather large structural component of total UA-side losses.

I think it is still 95% Ukrainian blood being spilled on that side, with Georgians, Poles, retard Russians and Belarusians, traitorous Chechens, and then Americans making up the rest (in approximately that order).

They don't need to die there. It is enough that their special forces help plan operations, provide training, and act as liaisons with Western militaries regarding specific needs of Ukrainian formations.

Honestly, that is worse than 10K Poles being processed as meat.

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #582

Than you fundamentally wrong in your thoughts.

We'll see :))))

. I openly said I have no solid corroboration.

I asked you where did you read/heard about such article in "Myśl Polska". You're not even capable of answering that? Or did you just invent it in your own head completely?? :D

Just would like to know what poles think on this issue.

What about the Ministry of Defence of the RuSSian Federation? Would you like to know what they think on this topic? :D

Because, you see, apparently even RuSSia doesn't claim that there have been as many as 10 000 of Polish volunteers fighting in Ukraine, let alone that that many of them got killed.

According to this article RuSSia claimed in July 2023 that since the beginning of it's full scale invasion of Ukraine last year 11.5 thousand foreign volunteers have arrived in Ukraine to fight on Ukrainian side. Poles are supposed to be the biggest group among them with 2.6 thousand:

wprost.pl/wojna-na-ukrainie/11301496/rosjanie-obliczyli-ilu-polakow-walczy-w-ukrainie-maja-byc-najwieksza-grupa.html

mafketis
21 Aug 2023  #583

openly said I have no solid corroboration

In other words, you're lying, very typical russian behavior....

ussia will literally steamroll Poland

what? how? you haven't make any progress in Ukraine for over a year!!!!! russian army sucks..... all it does is lay mines and shoot civilians from afar.....

NATO is short of everything and will certainly not invoke article 5 i

feelin' lucky punk? border's right there..... just send a tank or two and see what happens....

russians have two speeds:

1 threats
2 lies

that's why no one respects russia... you've never done anything to earn it!

Sad, pathetic loser culture....

Bobko
21 Aug 2023  #584

1 threats
2 lies

No, we also have demonstrated an uncanny ability to corrode your institutions with $$$.

Hahaha!

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #585

I asked you where did you read/heard about such article in "Myśl Polska". You're not even capable of answering that?

It is from telegram channel.

In other words, you're lying, very typical russian behavior....

Do you even feel the difference between "openly said there is no corroboration" and lying?

feelin' lucky punk? border's right there..... just send a tank or two and see what happens....

Actually nobody cares in Russia about hidden Polish complexes and fears. Poland is close to non-existence for Russia.

amiga500
21 Aug 2023  #586

Actually nobody cares in Russia about hidden Polish complexes and fears

And yet here you are.. asking for polish reaction to propaganda lies you were fed on telegram.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #587

My fellow Poles, please stop bullying me. I am genuinely interested of what poles really think about futher developments. That is why I posted this information. It would be rather strange to demand any confirmations or fact checking from me. I do not read Polish hence cannot provide any. Your inflammatory answers just reveal internal alertness.

We all know that the Ukraine army is just few steps from total collapse and disintegration. It is absolutely obvious who will be the next. And i see no room here for bare sabre brandishing. Cold facts tell that Poland will not survive this meat grinder and attrition war.

Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #588

It is from telegram channel.

Well of course it is lol
What is it called? Do you have a link to that channel?

It is absolutely obvious who will be the next.

Now that's interesting... You see, we're getting conflicting messages from the RuSSian and pro-RuSSian side concerning this. Bobko and Novichok, for example, claim that RuSSia has no intention of invading Poland. Yet you come here and are telling us that "Poland is next". So what's the truth?

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #589

RuSSian and pro-RuSSian side concerning this. Bobko and Novichok, for example, claim that RuSSia has no intention of invading Poland. Yet you come here and are telling us that "Poland is next".

Look, it is no secret that Poland has its plans for the western ukraine. I am curious, is there any idiot who might think that Poland's support of the Ukraine is not double bottomed? Of course Russia has no plans to strike Poland first, why it should do this? But in the same time Poland will not be allowed to execute its ambitions.

Ironside
21 Aug 2023  #590

Actually nobody cares in Russia about

You on a wrong forum for this kind of BS. geez ...just F off punk you are not even funny...

anything to say or the usual trope?
Better tell what going on with Grirkin, I hope they won't let him kick the bucked in a cell, he is not the younges and have heath issues. Any news?

Bobko
21 Aug 2023  #591

is there any idiot that thinks Poland's support of the Ukraine is not double bottomed?

They may have their own motives for aiding Ukraine, but I doubt that includes Lvov and Ternopol. They don't have the balls for that.

Alien
21 Aug 2023  #592

They don't have the balls for that.

Balls would be found, but mostly there is no need.

mafketis
21 Aug 2023  #593

it is no secret that Poland has its plans for the western ukraine

Somehow it's a big secret for almost everyone in Poland (though russians claim to know all about it....)

Projection.... look it up.

Novichok
21 Aug 2023  #594

Poles are supposed to be the biggest group among them with 2.6 thousand:

Darwin loves stupid people. Their mothers and wives are a different matter.

jon357
21 Aug 2023  #595

We all know that the Ukraine army is just few steps from total collapse and disintegration

They aren't though, are they...

Of course Russia has no plans to strike Poland first

Because they're too frit to 'strike' a full mamenr of NATO. Moscow would be under a metre of glass before Putler's lackies have cleaned up his soiled Portki.

Novichok
21 Aug 2023  #596

Quoting:

ATTACK OF THE DRONES
Moscow under huge kamikaze drone siege shutting ALL major airports with blast near home of Putin's 'Iron Doll'


Christmas came earlier than Putin hoped. He must be doing that hissing Yes! every ten minutes...and smile the way Roosevelt did on December 7, 1941.

Yes, Vlad, now you can make it a lot more violent and finish the damn war sooner...

GefreiterKania
21 Aug 2023  #597

It is absolutely obvious who will be the next.

Kostya, Kostya, Kostya... you are watching too much of Soloviev and Simonyan.

Russia will literally steamroll Poland as we have no any sentiments towards Poland unlike Ukraine.

Steamrolling through Poland is not necessarily as easy and fun as it might seem at first sight. Have you been recently listening to Wagner's music a lot by any chance? As for sentiments, we do have a lot of warm feelings towards Russia and Russian people but your current government, with their peculiar idea of conducting foreign affairs and diplomacy (not to mention brilliant state-owned TV journalism), is making it a bit hard for us to cultivate and express those feelings.

Lvov and Ternopol. They don't have the balls for that.

Last time I checked there was nothing wrong with my balls, Bobi, and neither is there anything wrong with Polish collective balls. As for Lvov and Ternopol - we have enough of our own underdeveloped and poor areas to even contemplate incorporating some wild Asian steppes. Too expensive, too much hassle, and the natives are not exactly friendly. So, no - cпасибо but no. We simply have a different vision of how to improve our country - we want to make the 312k sq.km that we currently have and turn them (gradually and slowly) into Switzerland - a beautiful, rich and orderly country - and that's enough work for 100 years, but it's worth it. Russia has a different idea that involves wars, conquest and chaos. So be it. Let's come back to this thread in 100 years and see whose approach was better.

P.S. @Kostya - tell your mates at Telegram that next time they want to invent some idiotic story about three-and-a-half c*ntillion regular Polish soldiers in Ukraine, they can knock themselves out but ask them not to use "Myśl Polska" as their invented source; it's a decent, pro-Slavic, Russian-friendly patriotic Polish paper - they would never publish such cr*p. Use "Gazeta Wyborcza" or something ha ha :D

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #598

They aren't though, are they...

You are in denial. The ukrainian administration is leaving Kupansk, there are thoughts to evacuate Kharkov. The ukranian army is rotting away.

jon357
21 Aug 2023  #599

The ukranian army is rotting away.

No it isn't.

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #600

No it isn't

You have absolute right to believe it. The only problem is that it has nothing to do with actual situation on the ground. Just a matter of personal faith and nothing more.

Steamrolling through Poland is not necessarily as easy and fun as it might seem at first sight.

I afraid one dead austrian amateur artist might have disputed with you.


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